Virgins Rare in Japan’s Lusty Schools
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Jun 29, 2009 13:20 JST
- Tags: Demographics, Otaku, Schoolboys, Schoolgirls, Statistics, Virginity
Otaku are struggling to come to terms with their enforced celibacy after recent surveys revealed that half of all third year high schoolers were no longer virgins, marking them as even more abnormal than they thought.
The surveys conducted by Japan’s Family Planning Association revealed that 47.3% of boys and 46.5% of girls had some experience of sex by their third year of high school, which coupled with results from other age groups shows a general trend towards sex at earlier ages.
However, observers were puzzled by the 40% decrease in sexual aspirations amongst younger children since the last time the survey was conducted in 1999; now it seems 31% of boys and 14% of girls in their third year of middle school “would like to try” sex, which could either mean their sexual ambitions have decreased, or possibly that they have already tried…
In spite of all this, a disturbing 15% of boys and 18% of girls agreed with the propositions that “it’s best not to have sex” (which bodes ill for the Japanese race) and “sex is best left until marriage” (which in Japan will usually mean waiting until their thirties).
Online reactions range from “I won’t accept it!” to “It seems healthy that there is no great gap between the sexes here”, and of course the blustering “We should be proud that we made it this far as virgins!”
Via Ameba.
Some would say Japan of all nations could use a teenage pregnancy crisis, as it is the only way short of ten or fifteen million immigrants that the nation’s aging populace can be supported with the extravagant pensions they have voted themselves…
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God gave us penis and breasts, use them well.
yeah, titty-fucking all the way! XD
One-third of the Sankaku community are otaku virgins or probably i'd stick to 3/4 because some want 2D girls or boys.
I don't know if I should be happy or overjoyed at this. Means I still have a chance to marry a virgin in Japan..... ^_^
Fuck, did I just interpret it wrongly? Oh never mind....
That piece of info just bring a tinge of sadness to me... Looks like the chances your wife is a virgin on your biggest day (Wedding night) is just so slim..Haiz...
That piece of info just bring a tinge of sadness to me... Looks like the chances your wife is a virgin on your biggest day (Wedding night) is just so slim..Haiz...
Quite the contrary, you should be glad that you dodged the bullet. I can't speak for everybody but the times I had with virgins were really messy, in a quite literally sense. That should really put you off unless you have some weird blood fetish. Well at least they won't complain about you coming too quick. So I guess that's good...
50% of japanese girls is still a lot of virgins.
but to find one attractive enough within that 50%?
You're absolutely right about that, people should be really careful about it and give theirs to the right person. But I think most people are ready and have positive experiences if they have sex. We have been talking about teenagers as one vague group, so it depends on the age too. I'd never argue that most 13-year-olds would be ready, I was talking about more like 16 to 18-year-olds.
All I'm trying to say is that sex isn't something just for adults and that there's nothing wrong with teenagers having sex. thesadtree's comment sounded like losing your virginity would automatically be a really bad thing to do and Endeavor made it sound like teenagers having interest in sex in the first place is a no-no. Both of these attitudes seem very unnatural from a psychological and biological point of view, and that is what worried me.
I do agree. Teenengers do have a choice of deciding whether to keep their virginity or not. I'm still choosing to hold mines on till I'm married. Some people think that it's a no no because they're still young. And even although a teen's young body feels ready to do it, some parents are afraid for their child deciding to have sex too early, maybe knowing some of the consequences. Hey, this is basically new to me, and I never thought that Japan that has many high school girls would undergo losing their "V" before they get either get engaged or married.
fewer game.... THE HOTTER THE HUNT!!!!!
They should adopt the practice of one African country (I forget which though) that gives paid scholarships to women who keep their virginity.
Wow....is that the land of the Zulus by any chance?
Actually the results of this study are suprising because there are so MANY virgins in Japanese schools compared to American ones.
Japan seems pretty square and uptight. They probably only masturbate once and think they lost their virginity.
FUCK YOU SATAN! YOU SHALL NOT GET AWAY WITH THIS! YOU ALL SHIT ASS PERVERTS NEITHER!
HA! This would be even more if they could get the students who do not trust adults, even when they say "I won't tell your parents!" about their sexual lives.
oh damn... will be hard to find virgin japanese
well you still have the ugly and retarded ones XD
“We should be proud that we made it this far as virgins!"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Holy fuck that made me laugh hard.
awww loli is bad....Don't hunt lolis virgin hunters!!!
What about those living in cultures where early sex is not that big a deal?
Nothing in those surveys is really surprising at all. What is suprising though, is that all those high school girls manage -not- to get pregnant ( as their declining birthrate proves quite well).
as long as there is love, it doesnt matter if one have sex or wait until marriage.
true. I think when it comes to virginity you should consider your own and judge yourself, not others. I want to be a virgin but I don't mind if my wifu is or isn't, that's up to her.
Doesnt really matter cause according to this survey there's still about 55% of either sex that remained virgins. Meaning there are PLENTY of virgins.
but the remaining 50% are children....
Oh lord. Now where will I go for virgins.
To he middle schools?
I think he means the Pre-schools.
All forces FORWARD!
Start the mass attack on lolis.
Why would you want a virgin? The only real positive thing about nailing a virgin is a sense of "accomplishment", which is pretty laughable. Virgin is a real drag. You can't go too rough on them. They don't really know how to please you. If it is for love then I can't argue against that(again, why would you care even if she is not virgin). But if it is for good ole sex, please give me an "experienced" girl over a virgin any day of the week.
The most manliest thing a man could do is to take away the virginity of a girl.
@Robert: it'd be a little more accurate to say
"Fucking a girl for the sake of taking her virginity is like posting first on a board"
actually it's kind of worse...
I mean you could fuck a girl without ever questioning whither she's a virgin or not and only find out afterward, does that put you in the wrong?
You mean just as lame and annoying huh...
Taking the virginity of a girl is like posting "FIRST !" on a board. Go figure...
...only if he feels so insecure about his manhood that he needs to prove his manliness like that...
If you want to raise children in marriage, a virgin is the way to go. Women who aren't virgins at the time of marriage are 40% more likely to divorce.
Go look it up on google if you don't believe me.
Oh, did I mention that 1/4 of sexually active women have an STD?
Would those woman happen to be the same religious freaks that believe you should never ever get divorced even if the marriage is making them miserable?
And I'll add to that, 47.3% of statistics are made up on the spot [http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_of_statistics_are_made_up_on_the_spot]. (Most of what you read on the interwebs is bullshit anyways)
I'll take the liberty of delivering a small portion of the research done on premarital sex and divorce.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1324025
You can download the article at the top page.
And now for roundhouse kick number 2...
http://www.cdc.gov/STDConference/2008/media/release-11march2008.htm
If you don't trust the CDC or other scholarly data then go ahead and feel free to bang around. Don't blame me if it doesn't work out as you expected.
Some people look for things like cuteness, sweetness, and innocence in girls, and indeed women. I personally look for experience and sexiness, someone that can dominate me, but I can understand that some people just want a different thing. This is some of the things shown in loli and moe characters that people like so much... it's stuff like this that makes people like lolis, not necessarily their young ages.
^
For guys into femdom, this is the dreamy wife material right here. Too bad I am not into that kind of stuff. And I think I'm missing out big time.
This comment chain restored my hope in humanity after all these comments about having sex before turning 80 being a bad thing. It's so very beautiful. I love you. ;___;
"“Cuteness, sweetness, and innocence = inexperienced in sex” is a fallacy. I have met girls who are sweet as pies but became very wild and uninhibited in bed."
I'm a pretty extreme case of this, hahahaha. Young honour student, real pretty, dresses properly, kind, loves housework, like your stereotypical wife material from an anime. Everyone thinks I'm a virgin. They can't talk about sex in front of me, I'm too pure. They tell me there should me more girls like me, since everyone is so corrupted these days.
Truth is. I've had plenty of it and I'm a sadistic dominatrix who likes to bind a man to bed. I love to torture him with pleasure without letting him cum and to make him lick me to orgasm as many times as I command. Stuff like that.
But it's embarrassing~. *hides behind a corner*
I also know virgins who are as far from cute, sweet and innocent as you can be. Even though I have bdsm sex, I don't think my virgin friends who watch tentacle porn, yaoi and loli are any more pure than me. Seriously, tentacle porn. The most cute, sweet and innocent thing ever as long as you haven't got laid, right?
Sorry this was supposed to be a reply to this comment chain:
"Why would you want a virgin? The only real positive thing about nailing a virgin is a sense of “accomplishment”, which is pretty laughable. Virgin is a real drag. You can’t go too rough on them. They don’t really know how to please you. If it is for love then I can’t argue against that(again, why would you care even if she is not virgin). But if it is for good ole sex, please give me an “experienced” girl over a virgin any day of the week."
Sankaku got buggy.
^
^
Every inch a lady in public.... a queen of the household.... and a bitch goddess in the bedroom.....
/nosebleed
im into femdom, but not bdsm and pain-pleasure stuff... so not really my dream material. Any dominating and wild females who aren't into pain? Also, I prefer the sexy look over the cute look, though more of a mixture.
Zange OJOsamaaa!!
Yeah, I never really meant to say that that's how things are (if that's what it sounded like), I just meant that I think a lot of people see it that way. So maybe they're duping themselves, eh...
"Cuteness, sweetness, and innocence = inexperienced in sex" is a fallacy. I have met girls who are sweet as pies but became very wild and uninhibited in bed.
..and let me add a bit to that..
I beleive that even if you're a virgin, it doesn't mean that you're totally inexperienced and innocent when it comes to sex, though it's probably more likely. I mean I'm a virgin and while I think I might take it slow the first time, I don't think it'll take me too long before I'm going at it the way I've dreamt. Though I'm a guy, I'm sure there are many virgin girls who like to watch hentai like I do, and I would consider such people to be the more willing of the inexperienced.
Also, I find it silly to be too anal about wanting a virgin, because with either men or women you often can't tell. With guys it's obviously not easy to tell, and with women too you don't know exactly how they got their cherry popped if it has been (it's unlikely that by even the first time they fuck that it'll still be intact). So I think trust in what your partner tells you about the past is a much stronger thing to have. If you want the characteristics of a virgin then look for those characteristics rather than proof of virginity.
But it's sad how these days it seems many teens (at least in crappy sex comedies), treat loosing virginity like getting a golden chalice, and don't even care about the characteristics of a virgin.
Now that I think of it, nearly half of Japanese kids *admit* they did it by their third year.
I wonder how many also have done it, but didn't admit so in this survey?
so 47.3% of boys admit they do it and 52.7% did it but don't admit it... sounds about right
The thing about these surveys, though, is that no one has any reason to hold back any information because they're probably anonymous... so why wouldn't they admit it?
Hello Artefact. Just want you to know that I despise you. It's nothing personal. Just your taste in articles. Please die. Have a nice day.
Funny troll is funny
The source is also fairly reputable as these things go.
it may also be the other way round where they did it and don't admit it....bottom line, statistic is not accurate!!!
hear that? japanese feminist!
And if that is your line of thought, wouldn't all those statistics about rape and eroge correlation be refuted too? Duh.
They's a lie!
Sex is best after marriage... lol this isn't Japan! It's the opposite way around for them.
Male 18+ who says "I'm proud I'm a virgin" is either ugly with low self esteem, fag, total loser, has a very tiny dick, and idiot.
A.k.a 90% of the 2d waifu-loving virgins on this site XDD
What about, maybe, discipline and/or self restraint? :/
May be they are just proud of not losing their virginity to a fat/ugly female just for the sake of loosing their virginity.
The good looking ones are usually taken, so does that mean one should resorted to having sex with fugly one? If having to do that, I'd much rather sticking with 2-D waifus lol
WHY NOT?! If the 'fugly' ones are actually good people. Women marry ugly men all the time (and sometimes vice versa)~ and It's not always for the money, I've seen plenty of pretty girl-ugly guy couples where the guy has little to NOTHING.
Some women likes looser
there is more than one kind of attraction. there all all kinds of people that can look attractive depending on who you are, or can manage to find someone who can look past all of that, but it really depends on who you are. A lot of marriages are unfortunately broken due to things like lack of sexual attraction and a bad sex life or infidelity due to uncontrollable urges that can't be calmed any other way. Sexual and physical attraction is one of many important aspects when looking for a mate and it shouldn't be ignored. If what you're looking for and absolutely need is too far off the charts, then you're just fucked (alright screwed... alright "out of luck") unless you can get over a few things.
Am sry but iam a guy who knows tons of guys, and the ones who anit losing shit is because of the prime example that guy posted a above. you either ugly, fat, loser etc.
if your masturbating then you want PUSSY period.
when you masturbate your thinking of pussy.
PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY.
i met church goers who got pussy befor i did, and they do all they no sex bullcrap
And there we go with the typical rebuttal. on why someone doesn't get pussy, the shit gets old. because if you trying that hard then i must have hit some nails on the head.
It's nice for you that you know so many guys.
So was it your anal virginity you lost first?
I love you Anon!
gotta love MINN's avatar, though. I'm can't wait for my copy of blazblue to come in :D
ok, sorry about that confusion... but I did feel better about clarifying that, anyways.
I was referring all the way back to MINN's #209747, actually.
I liked your posts.
Given: Masturbation (rather, self-stimulation, but we'll use the colloq. use of the word) feels good.
Given: Sex feels good.
Observation: Masturbation has less prerequisites than sex ->
Claim: Masturbation is used as a proxy for sex.
I disagree with your claim on the basis that masturbation, feeling good on its own, has sufficient incentive to do so without that connection.
the anon that somewhat long made the long triple post here
@MINN, I wasn't trying hard, that's just me, I pretty much respond like that even when I don't need to. For me all that was really no problem. Besides, a thicker head requires a harder punch. I'm not trying to defend myself or anyone here, I'm just trying to open more doors and windows to let more light in.
@CS: I never said masturbation was a replacement for sex, if that's what you think I meant, but I did say it can help in keeping control. It doesn't help loneliness, though. Besides, even people that don't fap tend to have more wet dreams to get rid of that frustration, but I don't think it's as effective as fapping. A person that refrains from masturbation can't think "oh she's incredible, but she's such a bitch, I shouldn't make that mistake, who care's if she's hot? I'll just go home and fap it off to something better".
And again, what's the difference between fapping and just getting pussy without a proper woman attached to it? The woman comes before the pussy, or else you're better off in many ways just buying a fleshlight.
generally speaking: Rather than calling people losers why not try to see it their way? It's not always the case that they're "worthless excuses for human beings", no one knows exactly how their lives will end up even if they try to fight it into the contrary. And more so, you're making assumptions about that person, you don't know that person's whole story obviously.
A comment like - I'm not a virgin and you are, hence I'm a winner and you're a loser - is just thick headed, ignorant, and mean spirited. Not everyone here is a stereotypical image of a full blown "otaku", and even if we were it still doesn't mean we're twigs in the mud.
But I'll admit, I did grow up as a quiet kid that got bullied and called a loser and the like a lot, so that's a really rotten word in my mind and I feel like doing my part to help get rid of it.
-"The fullest and best ears of corn hang lowest toward the ground."
-"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."
-"Humility is the only true wisdom by which we prepare our minds for all the possible changes of life."
and like I said, a the way you see a loser is totally based on your point of view. I don't care if I meet someone who's banged 100 chicks in his time, he could quite easily also be a loser in my eyes. In a way, we're all losers in some fashion, in someone's eyes, so it seems almost hypocritical to call someone else a loser.
Also, LOSER is just the worst thing to call someone. It doesn't mean anything. It's totally subjective. It's like you're saying "this was a race, and you lost". I mean, wtf? What race? Why does everything have to be a race?
It totally depends on the point of view. A person can look at a humble man and either feel shame or pride for him. A person can revere a chef that cooks food for the rich, or revere a cook that makes food for the poor without a dime in return, and either one of those can be seen as winners or losers.
It isn't always the case that the person is incapable in their state of accomplishing something. I personally work out and keep myself fit and well groomed, but I'm not about to try and get in bed with some hot chick that's most likely also a bitch or a dumbass just because "I want some pussy". Hentai and masturbation are wonderful things because of this, they're not supposed to be for "losers". It's because of it that I can more easily control myself from drooling over and getting myself into shit over the wrong chick.
nice speech, seconed!
It's like your saying all guys just want a FUCKING DISEMBODIED PUSSY! :O
I'm 20 and female, and I'm going to wait until marriage as well.
If that means waiting until I'm 30, or never finding the guy willing to wait, so be it. I'm not going to give up my morals.
Let me add something to this. I think sexual compatibility is very important when it comes to choosing a lifelong partner. It is just as important as the daily habits of your potential husband/wife. That's why couples live together to get to know each other really well before getting married, so that they won't regret marrying a man/woman who has poor hygiene or whatever character flaw he/she has. The same thing can be said about sex. If you realize that there is a compatibility issue after you already got married, then what are going to do? File a divorce? Maybe some married couples can lead a very happy, sex-free lives but I doubt that's the norm.
If a guy look down on you for having sex before getting married, well you know what? He ain't worth a penny. I would move on and find a guy who truly treasure you for who you are, not just some virginity fetish.
Again the decision is yours to make, I hope you are happy with it.
Wow, did I type this?? I mean I've posted a lot here, but I think this one isn't mine. Still, right out of my mouth man. Actually, I couldn't have said it better myself (I think I responded to someone before with similar sentiments but I had trouble saying exactly what I wanted). High fives all around, my fellow anon.
Then you are guaranteed to stay a virgin for ever.
Enjoy your fingers.
If you are not the type that is very picky when it comes to men then you just might get married.
and sooner divorced with a few fucked up kids, lol...
looool.
hey anon who wrote that long ass post, ever watched porn and fapped to it? Since you are here, I bet you already did.
Its all the same. One involves two people and the other involves one hand and some media. So stop being so super righteous.
One involves another living person and their feelings, and your connection to their feelings, the other doesn't.
Also, "the same as far as morality goes"? There's no one set view of morality in this world. My morals are different from yours, so it's not the same in my book of morals.
Of course I mean its same as far as morality goes. Fapping is an exercise in futility.
Very wise decision. Many females looking back and regret how they lost their virginity back in the days when they were still young and kind of naive.
Too many people having sex like doing sports these days. I myself believe that one should not give up their virginity until he/she meet a person which he/she truely believe he/she's 'the one'.
With that said, I wish you good luck and find the right guy, get married and star a family before you reach 30.
I say poke anything with a pulse
Some people do feel ok with their early decisions though, or just get over it. It's different for everyone. As long as you felt you made the decision without ignorance (or too much of it) or naivety, then I think it's ok. Some teens are too stupid and jump into things, others aren't (many adults are too stupid and jump into things!). Some may regret their first, some may cherish it, even if it's at a young age.
Whatever happens it should all come down to good parenting and probably having the right friends to help you get your head straight.
The right time is a good thing, but some people don't realize that this time can also come earlier. The point is that at least you are looking for that right time, even at an early age, and are not treating it like a race or something trivial.
I think the reasons behind WHY you wait for the right moment is what's more important than the fact that you did keep it. If it's something like due to repression, or to prove something, or because of religious views, or due to parents, then it isn't worth it. Well, maybe religious views is worth it just for the sake that you're part of a religion (and I understand how that feels) but it's still unfortunate.
I'm not only keeping my virginity, forget that, I'm personally even against dating. I don't like that word. My idea is to make friends with someone of the opposite sex, get to know them like you'd get to know a friend, hang out, talk, and do things together (some would call that dating, but I think what I'm saying is really a lot different from that), and then see how far it goes from there. Unfortunately I'm not good at even making friends of any kind. Not that I don't want to, but It's just so hard to find someone that fits my description of what a friend should be. I never even talk with any of the friends I've had at school growing up, and I don't keep connections long with friends i make online too long after I meet them. But I think this is all important in the process for me to find the right person... maybe I'll never win this way, but when I do it'll be pure fireworks all the way. I don't want to die heartbroken and lonely, I want a strong family till the day I die. THIS is why I am still a virgin. If I'm going to go down, I rather not take down another person and a family, kids included, with me. Divorce is a poison I never want to touch.
But why keep it for the right person? Because from what I've learned, I feel that love, trust, romance, and basically "the right person" makes sex all the better, especially if it's the first time. I think a lot of people who sleep around have lost the chance for that and will never get that chance, and I don't want to miss out on it. I want it to feel all the sweeter and that I'll never loose that person.
Besides there's more to life than sex and I'm busy with those other things instead right now, as I have been while going through school as a teen.
This Anon speaks the truth.
I have read before somewhere that most couple that only had sex after marriage are more satisfied(sexually) than those couple that had pre-marital sex exp.
Yeah, no one else to compare you see.
"But why keep it for the right person? Because from what I’ve learned, I feel that love, trust, romance, and basically “the right person” makes sex all the better, especially if it’s the first time. "
This is true and there is a biological basis for it. Studies have shown that the more sexual partners one has, the less and less of an effect that the 'bonding hormone' oxytocin has on oneself.
"And later he find she slept with 5-20 different guys before dating him. [...] if I was in that guy’s position, I would feel probably feel gutted or hurted."
Wait... what? Why the hell would you feel gutted or hurt? You don't really love her if you care about her past in such a way. And I don't really know how I should call this kind of attitude... shallow and self-centered maybe, and somewhat sexist. I mean, HEAVEN FORFEND THIS BITCH HAD SEX WITH SOMEONE ELSE BEFORE ME. Sure, you're not nearly as extreme, but whether you like it or not, you're following the same line of thinking.
It's interesting how so many guys think it is great and it is a great think everyone should be having sex. But in my opinions they are just short-sighted and not seeing the result it could lead to in the future.
For example, a guy eventually find a woman that he loves and cherish and marry her. And later he find she slept with 5-20 different guys before dating him. Sure it's not betrayal since it was before them started dating, however, if I was in that guy's position, I would feel probably feel gutted or hurted, while desperately trying to convince myself it is ok/it is no big deal/EVERYONE's wife has history like that.
what I basically mean is, concentrate on your own virginity, not the virginity of your partner or of others. Being a virgin when you feel you're with the "right one" effects you more than them, them being a virgin may or may not benefit you more but it sure won't make things worse (unless you're crazy about doing a virgin for the sake of it).
Personally I've made the decision to be a virgin until the right time, but I wouldn't mind if my partner was still a virgin or not.
29-06-2009 18:39 Anonymous here.
I agree with Shuu here. While I talking about the good sides to keeping virginity for the right person and the positive reasons and benefits of it, I think it's stupid to judge someone like that based on their past actions. While it's not good to keep information like that from your partner so long (especially lying about it) it shouldn't be something to judge that person on if you truly love that person.
Keeping or loosing your virginity before the right person is a choice. A person could regret it or even be happy about the decision later in life. If they regret it, if it was a mistake, then that's enough guilt for them as it is, and at least they changed for the better because of it, but it's crappy to add to that guilt by judging them for it. No one is perfect and no one knows how their lives will turn out. As long as she didn't get any STDs that she kept secret from you before marriage, it should be fine. At least you can be happy in that fact that she chose you over all of them. You know what? I wouldn't even mind if my wife told me all about how she thought other guys looked and if she was attracted to any of them, I'd find it interesting, and besides she's with me and not with them :) I think this makes for more confidence and trust in each other and the marriage too.
>Shuu
You are missing my point. I was merely pointing the possible feelings if that does happen.
It's easy for you call someone 'shallow' for feeling how they naturally feel, but let me ask you (and be honest)...would you rather know about or NOT know about about the history of your wife having sex with other guys merely for the sake of having sex (not because the guy and her were in a serious relationship or anything like that)?
What I was trying to say is too many people think having sex and losing their virginity or not is what classify them as being 'winner' or 'loser', and by being a non-virgin is superior to those that still are.
I really think this kind of mindset is wrong, as they more focused on the sex part, and women are just a 'tool' that helps make them a 'winner', instead of focusing on being in a serious relationship. In my opinion, this is even more shallow.
Well you are missing out. While sex isn't as godly as some people claimed to be, it is pretty damn good, even for girls. At least that's what my current girlfriend and ex told me. Have you tried rubbing yourself?