Japanese Wives: “No More Than $10 A Day” For Husband
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Jun 13, 2009 09:46 JST
- Tags: Feminism, Marriage, Money, Relationships, Slavery, Statistics
Japanese women were asked how much of their husband’s money he should be allowed as “pocket money” for covering expenses such as food, entertainment, hobbies and similar, and nearly half felt he should only be allowed a mere ¥1,000 a day.
Japanese wives have traditionally controlled the finances of the household, and it seems even in the era of “gender equality” the expectation is that this arrangement continues. Household expenses and saving (relatively high in Japan) are in these cases determined by the wife, with husbands relegated to the status of yoked oxen.
The survey covered 2,000 Japanese women under 30 (it seems both married and unmarried women were in the sample). For reference, the average salary in Japan is about ¥450,000 a month.
It posed the question:
“After marriage, how much pocket money will you give your husband?”
Wives have this to say about the most popular allowance (42%), ¥1,000 a day:
I hear this figure a lot. We can also consider his income.
I’m not sure, but about this much?
It depends on his income, but even so.
¥30,000 is enough.
No more than 10% of his salary!
Something like this? But if his salary is no good he can’t even have $100 a month.
That’s about right.
This is not too much, not too little, a good compromise.
If it’s just his food and entertainment expenses then this is about right.
Including his petrol costs, it might be a little low.
If his salary is low then ¥10,000 is too much.
$10 a day.
I thought this much, but it seems a bit pitiful.
I’m actually using more, but…
For a meagre ¥20,000 a month, they (16%) have this to say:
He can live on this.
It’s enough for him to enjoy himself.
It depends on his wages, he’ll get a commission on them.
We don’t want him wasting money going out.
Maybe I’ll top him up, but I’d like him to get by on this.
This is economising, you know?
Those few wives (15%) who felt generous enough to let him have ¥50,000 of his salary said this:
He works really hard so I’d like him to have as much as he needs. I want to save, but he can have 50,000.
This is the ideal figure.
I want us both to be spending the same.
I make him a bento everyday too!
I get by on this much myself.
He goes out a lot.
If I were getting it, I’d want this much.
It’s his money too, I suppose.
7% of wives went for ¥40,000:
It varies with his salary.
It’s a bit sad really.
¥10,000 a month is fine.
And a further 7% gave their husbands no pocket money at all, though it seems this is more of a “give when needed” system:
It’s best to give it to him when he needs it.
Once I have a certain amount, I let him take care of the rest.
When he wants something it’s best he ask me, and I him.
Lastly, 5% let him have ¥50-100,000:
He’s stylish.
I don’t know, but this is how much I use.
If he was rich I’d want him to have nice clothes and visit the salon, and take care of going out or having hobbies.
And 2% over ¥100,000:
I want a husband who earns this much.
Not sure, but if both worked this would work.
There is of course no talk of an allowance being necessary for the wife.
Hearing all this, the collapse in Japanese marriages and birth-rate swims sharply into focus once more; it seems no wonder many Japanese women loathe men with expensive otaku habits…
What man in his right mind would marry a woman, support her as a housewife, only to have his income completely commandeered and be subsequently treated like a child?
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Money is power.
that is the reason why I abso-fucking-lutely hate marriage, no financial and personal freedom, tons of responsibility, can't enjoy loli manga, only get one hole, etc
$10 a day? show it up their ass and tell them to get the f*ck out of the house, who work their ass off to bring money home and only get $10 a day?
Single FTW
LOL only one hole - then wtf you get with 2D because i clearly see no holes but the one in your head - if your complaining about sex with a real vigina compared to an imaginary vagina XD
Ill take that one hole anyday
yeah, but you have to pay a lot to get that hole
whores are cheaper that way
3 holes if you include anus and mouth
5 if you include the ears
7 if you include the nose
10 including hands and taped legs.
Don't forget about the "4th hole" right behind the knee. giggity.
Add 2 more for the armpits.
1 more if her boobs are big enough.
Another 2 if you enjoy cumming into the ocular receptors.
I love how this conversation started on topic and it ended up about a debate on how many holes a girl really has...
and yes they do have 4 holes. The 4th one being right behind the knee. Props to Anon 2 posts above me.
these conversations are nasty...
hahaha it amuses me, carry on anon
I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull fuck you!
cunning wife
lol @ FG reference
Plus, u could drill more holes, if those readily available just don't cut it anymore...
+urethra
+navel
You get up to 3 different holes per woman though...
You'll be lucky if your wife let's you use the one hole.
Unless you're into guro and stuff.
Then you get as many holes as you want.
married and bored or single and lonely....
Heard of lovers? Enjoying the good part (sex) but skipping the bad part (marriage).
You could just not be lonely.
doesn't girls or guys will at some point get too attached to the other and you don't want that.
FUCK YOU LOSER! YOU ARE SHIT!
Vagina is power
knuckle is vastly more powerful
ask latinos
Only if you're fucking weak. A real man reverses the situation, making the woman beg for sex because he's that good at it, and knows how to please himself well.
You're reading too much hentai mangas anon...
Not necessarily, Ragefat. I've had a former GF threaten to kill me, if I dared to stop doing what I was doing at that particular moment. :P
What can I say, I'm a cunning linguist. ;)
Women can be a dangerous creatures, but she would not kill you because of that, tough she would probably offend even your mother if you stopped doing "you know what" at that moment...
Proof that Japanese men are genetically inferior after the death of the Last Samurai, which happens to be Tom Cruise
just don't marry a japanese woman then :) But seriously, what would the woman do with all the money? I mean, how much do they spend on their own luxury and so forth?
jeje "money is power"
exactly ;)
10$ a day is plenty as long as you don't count gas. Also on bigger stuff one would asume you'd use savings. Ofcourse if you go out and eat tons then this wouldn't be near enough... on average I only spend $20 a week (with out gas) I guess it's japan though were things are more expensive.
gotta keep the bitches in line
Greedy women :(
This is all the feminists fault.
Because compared to the West, where men usually control the pocketbook and there isn't a history of women doing so, Japan is SO brimming with feminists.
Why is it that you people must inevitably blame every problem in the universe on feminists?
Because it is a well-cultivated asininity.
because it's so easy :D
Because it's the feminists' fault.
Easier to blame than take responsibility.
Because feminists smell like ass. They need to lose weight and get a job. A REAL job that doesn't involve government bullshit that's made up to cater to them.
stupid feminist
i wouldnt mind getting 1000 yen a month if she gets the same amount.seriously women can easily spend more than men.all the bags and shoes and clothes they buy
and going to the salon and doing their nails all the time
As if men really give a damn about their nails! For christ sake, most if not all just agree to the compliments just to get by the topic...
Barrneeeeeey Stinson.
... of course assuming that all women are like that. I'd sooner spend money on computer games and figures than makeup and bags. I'm sure my husband enjoys the perks.
I love you.
Fucking agreed. I've never understood the general fascination with makeup, makeovers, bags, shoes, clothes, and the like. Give me a video game or book or figure then I'll be genuinely happy.
do you marry me? :3
^ are you a girl? =P
You two truely are the perfect women. Otaku Nadeshiko so to speak.
lol, I have as many anime figures as my fiance. Last Christmas I bought him one as his present. I would rather have fun stuff, I don't use a purse, wallet is all I need, one pair of shoes, never get my nails done (what is the point?)
The only reason I buy make-up is my fiance likes when I wear it, but I hate buying it, I only buy any when I run out or it gets gross/old.
And the only reason he would end up getting an allowance of $10 would be because he is the one with a spending problem, not me XD
then again...although as appealing as the otaku type girl is, the girly girl's appeal is very attractive. i do love a clumsy ditsy airhead bishoujo ^.^
a combination of the two may be perfect
Your fiance is one lucky man.
I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus.
I like clothes and accessories to a certain extent, just not on the f*cking-crazy levels most women have for them. Seriously, lipsticks have like 100 shades of pink, but they are basically the same crap once you apply them. Just get one, woman!
Give me a figure and I'll love you forever.
"I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus."
...wut? Good luck finding a human who does.
God, do I ever agree with this.
I never understood what's so great about having tons of clothes and other things... they just wear out anyways, so why buy expensive stuff? I'd rather have books, games, anime figures, etc... at least those last longer.
And makeup? That's just a vein cash-cow industry. I couldn't fathom paying 10 dollars for a tube of crap to put on my lips when it's not going to last half the day anyways.
*waves hand* I'm here, so here. Most [read: all I've seen] of those bags are hideous, too, yet they're laughably worth HOW many [item of interest]?? *boggles*
Except I've found this recent facination with socks... Zettai ryouiki's appeal has ruined me.
@anon 191266: There has to be enough people that (wanted to) know about it for classes of it to exist! Keep searching! Or hang outside the windows of a college (please not a high school) calc class and watch for attractive females, that could work, too...
You won't find any lambda calculus in a class devoted to the watered-down non-rigorous classical analysis that is the calculus. Also, don't stalk women outside of the classroom windows of any institution. That is weird.
“I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus.”
x^3=true IFF n<13?
I understand how girls like to shop till they drop. It's the same as buying books, figures, games and so forth!
But really, I'd rather have a girl who's a bit outgoing, who likes to do physical activities at the gym, and not a down to earth manga reading otaku. People who only stay inside their homes all the time really have a problem.
Correction. That's 1000 yen a day so that's around 30,000 a month.
Seriously lolled that no one that commented noticed. How the hell would you survive with $10 for one month, in Japan?
lol, yeah. Took me a while to figure that out, Artefact made it pretty confusing.
1000 yen a day seems fair to me(since i am not a big spender) but i despise people sticking their nose in my finance management.
For food AND entertainment(and gas?). Good luck with that, unless you eat the McDonald's $1 Value Menu 3x a day.
1000 yen = 470 pesos, that's twice my daily budget! For that amount you can buy lunch, pm snack, dinner, a beer or two before heading home.
There is, however, a 'special fund' for 'emergency' purposes that I always keep handy.
The cost of living is not the same everywhere else in the world, idiot.
@1st Anon: Well lets assume my average monthly salary is about ¥450,000 a month and my pocket money is ¥1000 "only" for food/ to commute as a daily basis. Continuously with this routine for a month, hey i still have alot money left to cover my bills and for leisure purposes as well. Infact, as i mentioned in my earlier post i am not a big spender myself.
The point is you don't have an money for leisure with those sums.
"D'OH"!
Ah... Mexican beer, the cheapest of all the beers.
I spend 10$ on foods a day, and have 350$ in living community expenses (aka flat), that would make 300$+350$=650$ of monthly expenses, excluding entertainment, clothing and so forth. Including additional expenses (books, gym fee, MA fee, bus and clothing) a 600$ monthly sum would be added, making it 650$+600$=1250$. A sallary of 2.500$ a month would leave me 1250$ for savings. I would basically need 30$ a day if I wish to keep up my living style as it is (this includes all living expenses). With just 10$ a day I'd starve and have to quit all my hobbies.
But otaku males are just the same are they not?
All your money is belong to figures.
Hah, and they complain about men earning more than women... WHO SPENDS MORE AGAIN?
thats so true ..... i actually give 300£ a month
Good god, Japanese women are needy and greedy.
No rhyme intended. But it happened. D:
"What man in his right mind would marry a woman, support her as a housewife, only to have his income completely commandeered and be subsequently treated like a child?"
... my dad is a compulsive buyer... not very good at saving money. He needs my mom (who also works though). lol
Sounds like what my relationship is going to turn out as. I am trying to help my fiance get better with his spending habits.
That's why i hire an accountant or whatchamacalit.
lol what can you even do with 1000yen
Buy a 100 10yen candy to last you the day, I'm sure that would be more than enough to occupy him for the day.
That would cover the travel expenses...
What about food you ask? They probably have to go through the garbage dumps at the back alley of the convinent stores...and fight stray dogs for it...
Baaah. Just do like the Koreans do and eat the dogs. :P ;)
j/k
omg that's exactly what I do!!
srsly - ¥1000 a day? I'd probably spend nearly half of that on smokes alone 8*(
I guess with all the stray mutts running around I'm able to get through the day...
?
is it just me or the counting is wrong?
３万 is 30000 yen and
10万 is 100000 yen
ah sry it might have meant monthly and so u narrowed it down to a day
While I don't see spending more then 10 dollars a day, someone saying I only could spend that much... ya, I hear for 30,000 yen you get get a high school girl for a night. All the fun, but you don't have to feed them after.
Just remember, that was your whole month's allowance right there... so a high school girl would still cost the equivalent of what a Japanese wife considers an appropriate compensation for a month...
The "Slavery" tag fits perfectly.
I wonder how many of those 42% would themselves accept a $70 weekly allowance. I suspect that they'd beat their slaves viciously if they ever proposed such an outrageous idea.
great comment xD I totally agree with you!
$10 or 1000 yen a day (counting 30 days, but realistic ly u work 5 days hence 25 days, meaning you will have 5000 yen left over) that is logical, considering the husband would only need that for lunch, since breakfast n dinner r at home... not like in the states where u eat out 3 times a day......
and mostly in tokyo (the most crowded area) a street side stall still have some ramen or noodle shop for 800 yen.... if u go further from tokyo.. u can get a big bowl of ramen or soba for 450 yen.....
and for drinks... there's tea at work....
1 question: how much do you spend for lunch?
who eats out 3 times a day? =/
This is nowhere near enough per day per me to live as a single woman for just the most basic of needs. These women are insane and I refuse to associate my gender with them.
Thumb up! ^^
Even worse are the women who think the allowance should be lower. I think that thought is scarier... because the next most popular answer (16%) said 20,000 a month... So basically 650 a day. Ouch.
It's nice to know that there are women like you out there.
Keep in mind that money is not created equal. Local property values, availability of transport and gas prices, local costs of food, and other details determine the cost of living. Two different states in the US will have very different living costs, and you can get the same even within states. Which is why you need to take that into account and can't just think of the money in its exchange rate. After all, Japan's a freakishly expensive place to live at. ...Wait what
Seriously though, you can't go around banishing people from your gender. It doesn't work that way. Neither you nor they can claim to represent your gender, as little as a random group of male friends on the street can claim to represent men. There will always be morons and idiots, this is in no way limited to any gender. Anyone will also always be associated with groups they do not consider themselves to belong to, just look far away enough and those will happily show how they shove their false biases on you. These women are not any more or less women than you, they're just also stingy bitches. It's not inherent with being female, and anyone who claims otherwise is someone who fails at basic logic, and consider their definition of females to be more important than the actual biological and social definition of female.
The question is just what you can do to make it less socially acceptable for people whom you associate yourself with to behave in jackass ways. Always use the carrot more than the stick.
Japanese wives need to stop having opinions and get back to the kitchen.
These wives are already in the kitchen.
thats why they are oblivious to how much you need to survive? or to live comfortably. Probably assumed its a zero-sum-game with their husbands... the more he gets the less i'll get!
"Japanese wives have traditionally controlled the finances of the household, and it seems even in the era of “gender equality” the expectation is that this arrangement continues."
Classic example of reading comprehension fail. In Japan, when you control the kitchen you control the money.
That's a sexist joke i presumed?
i saw on the news like last week it was $ 50 a day. guess it dropped again there.
it not just in japan..it is also applied the same to the women in the rest of world.
Uh. No. In western countries it was pretty common that the wife was the one who got an allowance. Handling the economy was the manly man thing to do, and the wives were to get the best grocery bargains with the money they got..
I'm sorry but no woman is going to tell me how to spend MY money.
This hits the nail on the head.
If it's my money, then I will be the one giving *her* a pissy $10 allowance while I spend the rest on food, other expenses, hobbies and stuff for myself.
Both of you fail to take into account that if you have a house wife instead of a partner who also works, only you provide the money needed for keeping your household unit running. A house wife buys you groceries, cooks your food, cleans and tidies, takes care of any children, has sex with you from time to time and so on. Compare that to how much you'd have to cough up in pay-checks for strangers who would take care of the same functions in your life.
No, the wives shouldn't be stingy with the money, but if you've put yourself in that situation, you have only yourself to blame. Get a job for the wife, and have separate bank accounts for yourselves, and one joint one for joint expenses such as groceries, house equipment and the like.
I guess this is why alot of japanese men prefers to stay single yes?
Im starting to find japanese women very hateable.
wow i'm a woman and again i find this horrible, poor guys.
yup money is power but what a bunch of bitches they always say his money is our money but when they make money they be assholes about it saying shit like i work hard for my money you have your own no we dont cuz you bitches steal it
When I think about this $10 probably would be more than enough...
if I were in a coma!
The hospital bill is going to cost more than $10 a day.
=/ I don't even spend $10 a day...
Any needs I have can be fulfilled by Internet piracy =w=
You can't download food.
Just you wait...
I 2nd that epic reply ROFL
My wife thinks $10 a day is too much. I only get $200 a month and I'm making $95K a year.
Yes, she is Japanese.
Where the hell does all your money go to then? All going to savings, or do you guys have giganto bills?
He's billed monthly for his mail order bride.
Burrrrrn.
Almost all of it goes into savings. I'll give credit where it is due. She has gotten all of our debts paid off except for the mortgage and one car payment. We've got a huge emergency fund too.
So it isn't all bad. (^_^)
hahaha japan is horrible
Lol, I can kind of understand where they're coming from. My dad doesn't know how to manage money. Mom does all the bills and shopping and doesn't really buy material stuff.
I'd rather play video games/watch anime with my husband than go get a manicure or any of that mess .. ¦3
Totally with you. Games > superfluous fancy smancy care any time.
Plus why the hell would anyone ever pay someone else to cut one's own toenails, file them and possibly add some nail polish. It's not like it's massage or something like that which you are physically unable to do to yourself well... Such a waste of money...
What bullshit! Those guys that accept that have no balls at all!!!
Weee thank god i'm still free to do my own thing T_T lolz
So wait, the guy is the breadwinner, but the woman determines how the money is allocated?
Yeah, no. Maybe this is just my western influences speaking, but she can get a job, and leave my money the hell alone.
Plus, who would trust women when it comes to math? You knew a misogynistic comment was on the way, don't act shocked.
...Wow. Seriously, if I was limited to just $10, I'd need to use up $7/workday to buy a month pass for busing/train, and it would mean I will be eating cup noodles for lunch everyday with barely anything left over.
...I think most of my friends would be using up more than $10 if they drove to work.
Definitely the one of causes of why more guys are turning gay.
this is why it's very important to control your money, don't let your woman do the finances. It's a pain I know, but you will get more sex, women generally lose interest in it but if you control the money they won't.
Cost of living is also higher in Japan.
"It’s his money too, I suppose."
Dammed right. That would be my reasoning anyway.
Minus the "I suppose" part. Yeah, you BETTER fucking suppose. -_-
japanese women are good for sex...but not good as wives..
I know why is that most of the women in Anime are of Western appearance xD
No they're not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKTvFhRbBt8&feature=related
Good video.
...and 45% of Japanese women cheat on partners...
ideally at most less than $5 a day if it isnt a isnt a special ocation or if im just by my self, but i spend sometimes $15 a day for bf/l/d thats $75 to $105 a week if i spend that amount ever day
If my wife suddenly limited me to only $10 per day, I'd hand it back and say, "Here you go...now blow me bitch cause that's all you're worth!" I'd then walk out on her...
They're saving the money so when they divorce him they'd have a lot to spend.
There's a solution to your wife not giving you enough pocket money to spend in a day. If I recall correctly, I think it was called domestic violence. BEACHES AND SHORES.
No, the solution is to make her get a fucking job of her own and stop depending on you.
If there's a cure for Yellow Fever, this has gotta be it. XD
why not pool the earnings from both husband and wife, then split evenly between bills, taxes, and personal allowances? a bank account is useful too. there's no point to a marriage where husband and wife can't work as equals.
Too true.
If I made more than her.. than why?
I agree. After minusing the bills and mortgages and monthly payments on the house, i just split the cash in half for me & my wive and just leave it like that. Things are so much easier like that. Btw, if I had to live on $10 a day, Id cry. Seriously. I think I received $10 a day when I was in pre-U (or whatever thats the level b4 university).Having to live on the same amount as an adult would SUCK.
I make him a bento everyday too!
^Aww,Cute.
Sankaku is biased.
Take elementary statistics again.
What are you babbling about?
This is sad if the majority of women thinks like that and I was thinking to marry a Japanese wife home with me. There goes my dreams ~ byee
money is what we control but some cant handle it so give the a little
I would just said, FUCK YOU BITCH, go and get a job if you want some money! (for real, I'm not kidding at all)
LOL, that's like less than my pocket money
I think 10$ not including gas a day is fair... so long as the wife is limited to the same for anything that isn't total household shopping (meaning if she eats out, buys things, it's out of her allowance, not the family pool). I don't see the point in spending an assload on things you don't actually need. And yes, I am female.
If you want something that costs 100$, you save your personal money.
Mind you, my family has always been in debt, so if a family isn't bogged down with a ton of debt then they'd have more freedom. Things should be based on the income not spent on bills in the end, and if the person that's not making the money is the one in charge of it, then they better not spend more than the one who's doing the labor for it.
My girl knows how to spend the money to cover the household expense in a month, she shows to me what to buy, how much does that cost, and i`ve checked the price and she isn`t lying, of course she knew my salaries, and yes my salaries isn`t that high, what would you expect from hardcore otaku to face the cruel world and work regularly everyday? :D :D
Well, the point is being honest and keeping a good communication, if i need something i.e. to buy blank DVD to backup my ever increased collection of H-stuff, i just talk to her, you know, smooth talk and what not, and in the end she give me the money, well maybe it`s just my luck have a girl as understandable as her... :D
Marriage isn`t something you can take lightly and blabber your mouth to hell. If you marry the woman you love, you will do everything to make her happy, even if that means you`re sacrificing a bit of your ego, because her happines is your`s too... try it if you think i`m lying :P
If i need something more expensive, i just get (read: hunt) a side job to buy it...
That's sweet. I wish there were more people who thought this way. both boys and girls. then mabye I could find a girl....(sigh).
If I get married to a moe DFC... I'll give her all my money even if it's peanuts...
I'll just ask for the scrap...
waifu~kun... feed me~
T_T
Agreed. Wouldn't it be weird if you were a financial advisor or chartered accountant and your waifu was deciding where the money went?
yeah...
as long as I get my nourishment regularly...
Mai waifu Belldandy will let me have as much as I want...
And people wonder why I am so down on marriage and say that it demeans the people in it? Women in this world today need to get a FUCKING REALITY CHECK and realize that 10 dollars a day is NOTHING, period and done with.
For goodness sakes, when I was actually having to drive back and forth to work, I spent at least 20 dollars a day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index , mofo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index#Limitations too.
While I am fine with having my money managed by a wife while I'm out bringing home the bread, I still think 1000 yen is a little too low. What if the husband is a heavy coffee drinker? Is the wife open to negotiations? How about 2000 yen daily expenses? I think that's reasonable for when one needs more cafe latte or cuppaccino instead of the sludge that comes out of the office's coffee machine!
And I expect the rest to be spend on groceries and household matters and leftover in the bank, or if she is a shrewd person especially when it comes to investments, put into investments. Minimize spending on makeups and nails. And only one or two LVs every half a month.
"If he was rich I’d want him to have nice clothes and visit the salon, and take care of going out or having hobbies"
<3
Erm... I fail to see the problem? Does any of this count towards living expenses? I'm sure by "food" they mean eating out with friends or getting drinks, not the basic nutrition.
If half of this stipend is expected to go towards the basic necessities of travel and clothing, then yeah, that might be a crunch- but $300 a month is a decent amount for purely leisure expenses.
Ration the guy's money so they can spend the rest... feh...
Hmm.. Average monthly salary of 450,000 ~= $4500/month (or $54,000/year).
Taxes (based on US taxes as I don't know Japan's, though I believe they're higher there): ~33% off the top, so $3000/mo left.
Housing: 2 bedroom for couple + one child: $1000/month (based on what I remember of advertised prices, though I know it's higher in the city than in the outlier areas, so this can vary a lot).
$2000/month left.
Utilities (electricity, water, phone, cable, etc): $250/month (very rough estimate, and assuming their electricity costs per small house/apartment are going to be less than the massive AC bills we have)
$1750/month left.
Food: $500/month. This can vary a lot based on how much cooking is done at home, but assuming most will be
$1250/month left.
Transportation: 1 car, though used less often than in the US. Say $400/month for the loan if they keep a new car. $50/month in gas if they don't drive much (6000 miles/year).
$800/month left.
Public transport: $2 each way (3-4 stops), 6 days per week, for husband (work) and child (school) is about $200/month. Probably costs a lot less if you get the monthly cards, so say $100.
$700/month left.
Child's allowance: $50/month
$650/month left.
Savings/retirement: $250/month
$400/month left.
Pocket money for husband: $10/day = $300/month
$100/month left.
Pocket money for wife: $100/month.
I'm sure you can shave more off some areas, but then you also need to figure in costs for things like insurance, car repairs, clothing, school supplies, entertainment, family trips, etc. Need to squeeze a bit to fit in that computer upgrade or new TV or whatever.
Personally, I usually pull about $100 out of each paycheck for miscellaneous stuff (lunch/snacks/etc), twice a month, with occasional need for an ATM withdrawal, so $10/day doesn't seem like a big deal.
Addendum: Obviously if you cut some of the expenses (eg: no car, or paid off loan; cheaper apartment; etc) you have a lot more leeway, but I'm sure a lot will be allocated to other needs, and most of the remainder to savings. 'Large' discretionary expenses should come out of savings, and thus have the approval of both partners in a marriage, not random impulse buying from your pocket money.
Retired husbands who don't earn money anymore are often called "bulk garbage" or "unburnable garbage".
She's gonna need a lot of money for that kitchen and gold chain.
But seriously 10 bucks a day fuck that I'd rather be single and enjoy all of my pay.
100% natural. Women want security for their children, men want sex. It fits mutually. So this is how nature works. Japan, I suppose, has been a quite traditional country in this aspect. Women were raised to become wives, men - to be strong and fathers supporting family. But this won't work eternally. Sooner or later Japanese men will realize, that sex with wife costs a lot more than with a prostitute. And young men with the talent for observation and thinking will ask themselves a question if sex is really worth of living in a slavery.
The solution to this situation is... love. But love in the sense of Japanese word "ai" (愛) not "koi" (恋). The sense of having a family is in mutual love and love for children.
So, marrying someone just to not be alone, or because of social pressure will likely result in failiure of marriage or degradation to the model "he earns money, I give him sex and raise our children". I do not want such a marriage.
I could make do with that if she makes me an obento.. and does the grocery shopping.
You demands more and more?
Then go marry a guy call "Bank"
For reference, the average salary in Japan is about ¥450,000 a month.
WOW... Here in Italy the average salary is 1200 euros thanks to our politicians...
Few people here can claim to earn 4500 dollars a month...
Back to the REAL problem:
10 dollars a day??????
THIS IS MADNESS!
In Poland av. salary is on the level of 500 - 600 euro (netto, excluding taxes). Si, si. In Japan a litre of milk costs about 2 US dollars in a normal grocery. In Poland - roughly 60-70 cents. It seems, that prices in Japan are roughly twice or triple as there in EU. I do not mention prices of land and houses. Life in Japan is awfully expensive. Small ramen in a street bar in Kyoto costs around 800 - 1000 yen it means about 10 dollars. I know, because I was in Japan a couple of years ago and ate ramen and bought milk. Petrol is at the similar level as in Europe (1 US$ per liter). They maybe have electronics somewhat cheaper, but it's all.
But it is not the blame of politicians. It's our blame. Who do we chose during elections? Socialists and parasites who think, that social welfare is the most important in the world. At the expense of hard working people, of course. Do not you have some normal, antisocialist and procapitalist party in Italy? In Poland there is one, but with very small support...
Saluti!
Prices in Europe vary greatly too, in Denmark the prices and average salary are higher then those in Japan. Petrol is 1,5$ and rising, houses are very expensive to buy and the food got some heavy taxes on it. 1000¥ is about enough to pay for our lunch:p and yep its propably all because that Denmark is one of those heavily socialistic countries with 33% minimum and 66% maximum taxes.
Jesus, isn't there any solution? Years ago I wondered, how a normal peasant in feudalism could live and support his family, when he had to work for 5 days a week on the field of his souvereign master and one day - on his own. For me it was the edge of exploitation. Byt now, I counted all the taxes - not only personal income tax (PIT), but also VAT, excise, commercial income tax (CIT), obligatory state retirement and health funds (which will surely go bankrupt by the time I am old enough to be retired or enough sick to use them) plus other obligatory duties, like car insurance and in Poland REAL taxes are on the level of 80%. YES, eighty percent. We are nothing better than feudal peasants feeding parasite beaurocrats in our countries, but also in Brussels! But ad rem: Japan is also the social welfare state governed by Keynes' economy. Very similar to EU. But mentality of Japanese society is WAY different than european.
@Pokrek:
Maybe you don't know,but the one with MONEY AND POLITICAL (AND MEDIATICAL OF COURSE)POWER here in Italy is the smiling idiot called
BERLUSCONI: God of capitalism here in Italy.
P.S: there is no real political opposition here in Italy cos "why opposing to someone that gives us something like 30000 euros at month just because we are politicians?".
P.S n.2: People here are stupid indeed: they keep voting him even if he doesn't give founds to public schools. He wants us a lot mooore stupid in the future.
Seriously, welfare is a hell of a good thing. If you dont like to pay taxes, go to America. There you'll have to pay for school and hospital. I couldn't imagine how to tackle university if I had to pay those mad amounts the Americans have to. There's a lot of benefits to welfare, and I strongly support it. It makes our society safer in my opinion. At least I won't have to spend my life savings on a broken arm.
Oh! This helps lend some context to that one episode of Crayon Shin-Chan.
Now, when you combine this with the thought that they're what? Almost 50% chance they're cheating on you? AND that they demand their husbands earn more than them?
I think $10-$15 is fair enough if it's just for daily lunch, but the thought that they're dictating all these damn restrictions is just crazy.
Those bitches. >_>
I'm not worried so much about the amount, since I don't have any experience getting by in Japan, but at the idea of this system in general. The husband should have equal say in how the money is shared, especially if he's the one making most/all of it.
There's nothing wrong with a wife controlling the finances, but a decision as important as how much spending money each person gets should include both partners.
and people ask why the fuck J-dudes go fuckin ballistic and start killin off their wife's and kids?
660 yen; CalorieMates for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Just don't wear Spider camo.
lonely is bad so thats the only reason for marriage.
it's every human destiny except monk? o.o?
bullshit !
get a LIFE !
*Note to self* Don't get a wive not unless she is an otoku as well.
Did you mean to say "otaku" or "otoko"? =P
Well, it's not like anyone really forced those pussies you call husbands into marriage. Why not exploit them if they allow themselves to be treated like walking bags of cash?
That's why 2D wives are superior: you get to keep 100% of your paycheck.
True. Ain't no 2d ever jack my bling.
Ah the husband get 1/15 of his salary and still say that is too much,I expect nothing less from the main boss. Too bad we can't do "Job Change" like in RPG, otherwise I would have change my class to either Thief or Ladykiller.Oh and all of you out there who thinks "she should work" is the solution, than you are in for a beautiful surprise.
Why would you want kids? They take money out of your pocket and are a burden. Please explain the concept of having kids to me.
Continuation of the species, ring any bells?
Japanese are sick ..
Well, if the Japanese husband is working 10 to 12 hours a day, it makes sense the wife controls the finances. When is he going to have the chance to pay the bills? If he is constantly having to hand over the money, it is just easier for her to be in charge.
And wives don't want their hubbies having too much fun outside their knowledge. No need to let him have enough to eat out (she's fill a bento box for him, right?) and then go get a happy ending from the local prostitutes. No way to afford motel for a quicky with some money-digging whore at work that is willing to still a properly broken in husband and not have to work anymore. Seriously, think it through.
Bitches and whores.
Sing with me now:
Love and marriage~
Love and marriage~
You can't have one, without the other~
stupid fookin shite like this why i've remained single...
who needs the grief and bs?
lol, u sound like that fat dude from "The Hangover". Now I'm obliged to say in a sarcastic tone "Really? That's why you're single?"
Feminazis can just burn in hell!
Shared income: bad times
....Japan is fucked up.....I really don't care about the women being in power thats fine and dandy...but when you fuck with my money and give me allowance with my own money THAT I WORKED FOR....bitch got to go!
It’s his money too, I suppose. lol
I would have so much fun with a japanese wife ...knocking her teeth out.
"I make him a bento everyday too!"
Aww! <3 This one is doing it right.
I get a kick out of reading these 'wimp' stories hehe.
First off in a marriage there is only 'our' money, there is no his and her money. Anyone that can't figure that out is just a divorce waiting to happen.
Second, the bills come first, then you attempt to provide a daily food allotment and in my home I aim for 10 bucks a day (feeds wife and son and myself). That of course is a sum arrived at by determining how much in groceries to buy. I eat well, because I spend smart.
If there's actually any spending money left over, you count yourself lucky. I try to buy one model a month, and consider myself lucky if I can get it.
I don't smoke, don't drink, and there are no lotto indulgences.
I like snacks as does the wife and son. It's a game with me, go to the store and hunt for the 'on sale snack' because getting a 14 dollar cake for 7 is really nice. Finding a type of ice cream is on sale is nice. Finding one's fav chips on sale is nice. If nothing is on sale chances are take a pass that day.
The trick to having spending money, is knowing there WILL be things you just can't have. I have never owned a car and don't want one. And I can assure you I eat better than most of my friends that have one. I also live in a nicer place. But I rent, I don't own. Lots of people will come up with all manner of reasons for having a car, and I can usually trash just about any of them. I don't have a car, and I live rather well without it.
$10 for 3, not bad for all three meals. Then again if I wanted something nutritious and healthy for my family, for all three meals it would cost a bit more in many instances. That is of course to conservative American standards and costs.
And Japanese women WONDER why they are so lonely or that their men go elsewhere for a bit of nookie.
Then again I wouldn't work as nearly as much as a Japanese male if I only was to get 1/450 of it. If the wife was using the other to support the family, sure. Used to look cute and adorable to my expectations, sure. To fill her own needs and wants only, then I would say get a job!!!
Add to which, if your going elsewhere for some nookie, at least bring a paycheck home with it. =P