Japanese Wives: “No More Than $10 A Day” For Husband
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Jun 13, 2009 09:46 JST
- Tags: Feminism, Marriage, Money, Relationships, Slavery, Statistics
Japanese women were asked how much of their husband’s money he should be allowed as “pocket money” for covering expenses such as food, entertainment, hobbies and similar, and nearly half felt he should only be allowed a mere ¥1,000 a day.
Japanese wives have traditionally controlled the finances of the household, and it seems even in the era of “gender equality” the expectation is that this arrangement continues. Household expenses and saving (relatively high in Japan) are in these cases determined by the wife, with husbands relegated to the status of yoked oxen.
The survey covered 2,000 Japanese women under 30 (it seems both married and unmarried women were in the sample). For reference, the average salary in Japan is about ¥450,000 a month.
It posed the question:
“After marriage, how much pocket money will you give your husband?”
Wives have this to say about the most popular allowance (42%), ¥1,000 a day:
I hear this figure a lot. We can also consider his income.
I’m not sure, but about this much?
It depends on his income, but even so.
¥30,000 is enough.
No more than 10% of his salary!
Something like this? But if his salary is no good he can’t even have $100 a month.
That’s about right.
This is not too much, not too little, a good compromise.
If it’s just his food and entertainment expenses then this is about right.
Including his petrol costs, it might be a little low.
If his salary is low then ¥10,000 is too much.
$10 a day.
I thought this much, but it seems a bit pitiful.
I’m actually using more, but…
For a meagre ¥20,000 a month, they (16%) have this to say:
He can live on this.
It’s enough for him to enjoy himself.
It depends on his wages, he’ll get a commission on them.
We don’t want him wasting money going out.
Maybe I’ll top him up, but I’d like him to get by on this.
This is economising, you know?
Those few wives (15%) who felt generous enough to let him have ¥50,000 of his salary said this:
He works really hard so I’d like him to have as much as he needs. I want to save, but he can have 50,000.
This is the ideal figure.
I want us both to be spending the same.
I make him a bento everyday too!
I get by on this much myself.
He goes out a lot.
If I were getting it, I’d want this much.
It’s his money too, I suppose.
7% of wives went for ¥40,000:
It varies with his salary.
It’s a bit sad really.
¥10,000 a month is fine.
And a further 7% gave their husbands no pocket money at all, though it seems this is more of a “give when needed” system:
It’s best to give it to him when he needs it.
Once I have a certain amount, I let him take care of the rest.
When he wants something it’s best he ask me, and I him.
Lastly, 5% let him have ¥50-100,000:
He’s stylish.
I don’t know, but this is how much I use.
If he was rich I’d want him to have nice clothes and visit the salon, and take care of going out or having hobbies.
And 2% over ¥100,000:
I want a husband who earns this much.
Not sure, but if both worked this would work.
There is of course no talk of an allowance being necessary for the wife.
Hearing all this, the collapse in Japanese marriages and birth-rate swims sharply into focus once more; it seems no wonder many Japanese women loathe men with expensive otaku habits…
What man in his right mind would marry a woman, support her as a housewife, only to have his income completely commandeered and be subsequently treated like a child?
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I'm not worried so much about the amount, since I don't have any experience getting by in Japan, but at the idea of this system in general. The husband should have equal say in how the money is shared, especially if he's the one making most/all of it.
There's nothing wrong with a wife controlling the finances, but a decision as important as how much spending money each person gets should include both partners.
japanese women are good for sex...but not good as wives..
...and 45% of Japanese women cheat on partners...
"It’s his money too, I suppose."
Dammed right. That would be my reasoning anyway.
Minus the "I suppose" part. Yeah, you BETTER fucking suppose. -_-
What bullshit! Those guys that accept that have no balls at all!!!
Oh! This helps lend some context to that one episode of Crayon Shin-Chan.
...Wow. Seriously, if I was limited to just $10, I'd need to use up $7/workday to buy a month pass for busing/train, and it would mean I will be eating cup noodles for lunch everyday with barely anything left over.
...I think most of my friends would be using up more than $10 if they drove to work.
Definitely the one of causes of why more guys are turning gay.
Cost of living is also higher in Japan.
this is why it's very important to control your money, don't let your woman do the finances. It's a pain I know, but you will get more sex, women generally lose interest in it but if you control the money they won't.
So basically what you're saying is that if you control the money then the women will get paid to have sex with you?
....Japan is fucked up.....I really don't care about the women being in power thats fine and dandy...but when you fuck with my money and give me allowance with my own money THAT I WORKED FOR....bitch got to go!
It’s his money too, I suppose. lol
If there's a cure for Yellow Fever, this has gotta be it. XD
Well, it's not like anyone really forced those pussies you call husbands into marriage. Why not exploit them if they allow themselves to be treated like walking bags of cash?
That's why 2D wives are superior: you get to keep 100% of your paycheck.
True. Ain't no 2d ever jack my bling.
I make him a bento everyday too!
^Aww,Cute.
why not pool the earnings from both husband and wife, then split evenly between bills, taxes, and personal allowances? a bank account is useful too. there's no point to a marriage where husband and wife can't work as equals.
Too true.
If I made more than her.. than why?
I agree. After minusing the bills and mortgages and monthly payments on the house, i just split the cash in half for me & my wive and just leave it like that. Things are so much easier like that. Btw, if I had to live on $10 a day, Id cry. Seriously. I think I received $10 a day when I was in pre-U (or whatever thats the level b4 university).Having to live on the same amount as an adult would SUCK.
While I am fine with having my money managed by a wife while I'm out bringing home the bread, I still think 1000 yen is a little too low. What if the husband is a heavy coffee drinker? Is the wife open to negotiations? How about 2000 yen daily expenses? I think that's reasonable for when one needs more cafe latte or cuppaccino instead of the sludge that comes out of the office's coffee machine!
And I expect the rest to be spend on groceries and household matters and leftover in the bank, or if she is a shrewd person especially when it comes to investments, put into investments. Minimize spending on makeups and nails. And only one or two LVs every half a month.
"If he was rich I’d want him to have nice clothes and visit the salon, and take care of going out or having hobbies"
<3
Well, if the Japanese husband is working 10 to 12 hours a day, it makes sense the wife controls the finances. When is he going to have the chance to pay the bills? If he is constantly having to hand over the money, it is just easier for her to be in charge.
And wives don't want their hubbies having too much fun outside their knowledge. No need to let him have enough to eat out (she's fill a bento box for him, right?) and then go get a happy ending from the local prostitutes. No way to afford motel for a quicky with some money-digging whore at work that is willing to still a properly broken in husband and not have to work anymore. Seriously, think it through.
And people wonder why I am so down on marriage and say that it demeans the people in it? Women in this world today need to get a FUCKING REALITY CHECK and realize that 10 dollars a day is NOTHING, period and done with.
For goodness sakes, when I was actually having to drive back and forth to work, I spent at least 20 dollars a day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index , mofo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index#Limitations too.
Mai waifu Belldandy will let me have as much as I want...
They're saving the money so when they divorce him they'd have a lot to spend.
For reference, the average salary in Japan is about ¥450,000 a month.
WOW... Here in Italy the average salary is 1200 euros thanks to our politicians...
Few people here can claim to earn 4500 dollars a month...
Back to the REAL problem:
10 dollars a day??????
THIS IS MADNESS!
In Poland av. salary is on the level of 500 - 600 euro (netto, excluding taxes). Si, si. In Japan a litre of milk costs about 2 US dollars in a normal grocery. In Poland - roughly 60-70 cents. It seems, that prices in Japan are roughly twice or triple as there in EU. I do not mention prices of land and houses. Life in Japan is awfully expensive. Small ramen in a street bar in Kyoto costs around 800 - 1000 yen it means about 10 dollars. I know, because I was in Japan a couple of years ago and ate ramen and bought milk. Petrol is at the similar level as in Europe (1 US$ per liter). They maybe have electronics somewhat cheaper, but it's all.
But it is not the blame of politicians. It's our blame. Who do we chose during elections? Socialists and parasites who think, that social welfare is the most important in the world. At the expense of hard working people, of course. Do not you have some normal, antisocialist and procapitalist party in Italy? In Poland there is one, but with very small support...
Saluti!
Prices in Europe vary greatly too, in Denmark the prices and average salary are higher then those in Japan. Petrol is 1,5$ and rising, houses are very expensive to buy and the food got some heavy taxes on it. 1000¥ is about enough to pay for our lunch:p and yep its propably all because that Denmark is one of those heavily socialistic countries with 33% minimum and 66% maximum taxes.
@Pokrek:
Maybe you don't know,but the one with MONEY AND POLITICAL (AND MEDIATICAL OF COURSE)POWER here in Italy is the smiling idiot called
BERLUSCONI: God of capitalism here in Italy.
P.S: there is no real political opposition here in Italy cos "why opposing to someone that gives us something like 30000 euros at month just because we are politicians?".
P.S n.2: People here are stupid indeed: they keep voting him even if he doesn't give founds to public schools. He wants us a lot mooore stupid in the future.
Jesus, isn't there any solution? Years ago I wondered, how a normal peasant in feudalism could live and support his family, when he had to work for 5 days a week on the field of his souvereign master and one day - on his own. For me it was the edge of exploitation. Byt now, I counted all the taxes - not only personal income tax (PIT), but also VAT, excise, commercial income tax (CIT), obligatory state retirement and health funds (which will surely go bankrupt by the time I am old enough to be retired or enough sick to use them) plus other obligatory duties, like car insurance and in Poland REAL taxes are on the level of 80%. YES, eighty percent. We are nothing better than feudal peasants feeding parasite beaurocrats in our countries, but also in Brussels! But ad rem: Japan is also the social welfare state governed by Keynes' economy. Very similar to EU. But mentality of Japanese society is WAY different than european.
Seriously, welfare is a hell of a good thing. If you dont like to pay taxes, go to America. There you'll have to pay for school and hospital. I couldn't imagine how to tackle university if I had to pay those mad amounts the Americans have to. There's a lot of benefits to welfare, and I strongly support it. It makes our society safer in my opinion. At least I won't have to spend my life savings on a broken arm.
I could make do with that if she makes me an obento.. and does the grocery shopping.
and once again marriage fails.
LOL, that's like less than my pocket money
She's gonna need a lot of money for that kitchen and gold chain.
But seriously 10 bucks a day fuck that I'd rather be single and enjoy all of my pay.
lol what can you even do with 1000yen
That would cover the travel expenses...
What about food you ask? They probably have to go through the garbage dumps at the back alley of the convinent stores...and fight stray dogs for it...
Baaah. Just do like the Koreans do and eat the dogs. :P ;)
j/k
omg that's exactly what I do!!
srsly - ¥1000 a day? I'd probably spend nearly half of that on smokes alone 8*(
I guess with all the stray mutts running around I'm able to get through the day...
Buy a 100 10yen candy to last you the day, I'm sure that would be more than enough to occupy him for the day.
i wouldnt mind getting 1000 yen a month if she gets the same amount.seriously women can easily spend more than men.all the bags and shoes and clothes they buy
Hah, and they complain about men earning more than women... WHO SPENDS MORE AGAIN?
and going to the salon and doing their nails all the time
... of course assuming that all women are like that. I'd sooner spend money on computer games and figures than makeup and bags. I'm sure my husband enjoys the perks.
God, do I ever agree with this.
I never understood what's so great about having tons of clothes and other things... they just wear out anyways, so why buy expensive stuff? I'd rather have books, games, anime figures, etc... at least those last longer.
And makeup? That's just a vein cash-cow industry. I couldn't fathom paying 10 dollars for a tube of crap to put on my lips when it's not going to last half the day anyways.
lol, I have as many anime figures as my fiance. Last Christmas I bought him one as his present. I would rather have fun stuff, I don't use a purse, wallet is all I need, one pair of shoes, never get my nails done (what is the point?)
The only reason I buy make-up is my fiance likes when I wear it, but I hate buying it, I only buy any when I run out or it gets gross/old.
And the only reason he would end up getting an allowance of $10 would be because he is the one with a spending problem, not me XD
Your fiance is one lucky man.
Fucking agreed. I've never understood the general fascination with makeup, makeovers, bags, shoes, clothes, and the like. Give me a video game or book or figure then I'll be genuinely happy.
I like clothes and accessories to a certain extent, just not on the f*cking-crazy levels most women have for them. Seriously, lipsticks have like 100 shades of pink, but they are basically the same crap once you apply them. Just get one, woman!
Give me a figure and I'll love you forever.
“I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus.”
x^3=true IFF n<13?
I understand how girls like to shop till they drop. It's the same as buying books, figures, games and so forth!
But really, I'd rather have a girl who's a bit outgoing, who likes to do physical activities at the gym, and not a down to earth manga reading otaku. People who only stay inside their homes all the time really have a problem.
*waves hand* I'm here, so here. Most [read: all I've seen] of those bags are hideous, too, yet they're laughably worth HOW many [item of interest]?? *boggles*
Except I've found this recent facination with socks... Zettai ryouiki's appeal has ruined me.
@anon 191266: There has to be enough people that (wanted to) know about it for classes of it to exist! Keep searching! Or hang outside the windows of a college (please not a high school) calc class and watch for attractive females, that could work, too...
then again...although as appealing as the otaku type girl is, the girly girl's appeal is very attractive. i do love a clumsy ditsy airhead bishoujo ^.^
a combination of the two may be perfect
I love you.
^ are you a girl? =P
You two truely are the perfect women. Otaku Nadeshiko so to speak.
You won't find any lambda calculus in a class devoted to the watered-down non-rigorous classical analysis that is the calculus. Also, don't stalk women outside of the classroom windows of any institution. That is weird.
"I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus."
...wut? Good luck finding a human who does.
I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus.
do you marry me? :3
As if men really give a damn about their nails! For christ sake, most if not all just agree to the compliments just to get by the topic...
Barrneeeeeey Stinson.
Correction. That's 1000 yen a day so that's around 30,000 a month.
Seriously lolled that no one that commented noticed. How the hell would you survive with $10 for one month, in Japan?
lol, yeah. Took me a while to figure that out, Artefact made it pretty confusing.
1000 yen a day seems fair to me(since i am not a big spender) but i despise people sticking their nose in my finance management.
For food AND entertainment(and gas?). Good luck with that, unless you eat the McDonald's $1 Value Menu 3x a day.
The point is you don't have an money for leisure with those sums.
I spend 10$ on foods a day, and have 350$ in living community expenses (aka flat), that would make 300$+350$=650$ of monthly expenses, excluding entertainment, clothing and so forth. Including additional expenses (books, gym fee, MA fee, bus and clothing) a 600$ monthly sum would be added, making it 650$+600$=1250$. A sallary of 2.500$ a month would leave me 1250$ for savings. I would basically need 30$ a day if I wish to keep up my living style as it is (this includes all living expenses). With just 10$ a day I'd starve and have to quit all my hobbies.
Ah... Mexican beer, the cheapest of all the beers.
The cost of living is not the same everywhere else in the world, idiot.
1000 yen = 470 pesos, that's twice my daily budget! For that amount you can buy lunch, pm snack, dinner, a beer or two before heading home.
There is, however, a 'special fund' for 'emergency' purposes that I always keep handy.
@1st Anon: Well lets assume my average monthly salary is about ¥450,000 a month and my pocket money is ¥1000 "only" for food/ to commute as a daily basis. Continuously with this routine for a month, hey i still have alot money left to cover my bills and for leisure purposes as well. Infact, as i mentioned in my earlier post i am not a big spender myself.
"D'OH"!
But otaku males are just the same are they not?
All your money is belong to figures.