Japanese Wives: “No More Than $10 A Day” For Husband
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Jun 13, 2009 09:46 JST
- Tags: Feminism, Marriage, Money, Relationships, Slavery, Statistics
Japanese women were asked how much of their husband’s money he should be allowed as “pocket money” for covering expenses such as food, entertainment, hobbies and similar, and nearly half felt he should only be allowed a mere ¥1,000 a day.
Japanese wives have traditionally controlled the finances of the household, and it seems even in the era of “gender equality” the expectation is that this arrangement continues. Household expenses and saving (relatively high in Japan) are in these cases determined by the wife, with husbands relegated to the status of yoked oxen.
The survey covered 2,000 Japanese women under 30 (it seems both married and unmarried women were in the sample). For reference, the average salary in Japan is about ¥450,000 a month.
It posed the question:
“After marriage, how much pocket money will you give your husband?”
Wives have this to say about the most popular allowance (42%), ¥1,000 a day:
I hear this figure a lot. We can also consider his income.
I’m not sure, but about this much?
It depends on his income, but even so.
¥30,000 is enough.
No more than 10% of his salary!
Something like this? But if his salary is no good he can’t even have $100 a month.
That’s about right.
This is not too much, not too little, a good compromise.
If it’s just his food and entertainment expenses then this is about right.
Including his petrol costs, it might be a little low.
If his salary is low then ¥10,000 is too much.
$10 a day.
I thought this much, but it seems a bit pitiful.
I’m actually using more, but…
For a meagre ¥20,000 a month, they (16%) have this to say:
He can live on this.
It’s enough for him to enjoy himself.
It depends on his wages, he’ll get a commission on them.
We don’t want him wasting money going out.
Maybe I’ll top him up, but I’d like him to get by on this.
This is economising, you know?
Those few wives (15%) who felt generous enough to let him have ¥50,000 of his salary said this:
He works really hard so I’d like him to have as much as he needs. I want to save, but he can have 50,000.
This is the ideal figure.
I want us both to be spending the same.
I make him a bento everyday too!
I get by on this much myself.
He goes out a lot.
If I were getting it, I’d want this much.
It’s his money too, I suppose.
7% of wives went for ¥40,000:
It varies with his salary.
It’s a bit sad really.
¥10,000 a month is fine.
And a further 7% gave their husbands no pocket money at all, though it seems this is more of a “give when needed” system:
It’s best to give it to him when he needs it.
Once I have a certain amount, I let him take care of the rest.
When he wants something it’s best he ask me, and I him.
Lastly, 5% let him have ¥50-100,000:
He’s stylish.
I don’t know, but this is how much I use.
If he was rich I’d want him to have nice clothes and visit the salon, and take care of going out or having hobbies.
And 2% over ¥100,000:
I want a husband who earns this much.
Not sure, but if both worked this would work.
There is of course no talk of an allowance being necessary for the wife.
Hearing all this, the collapse in Japanese marriages and birth-rate swims sharply into focus once more; it seems no wonder many Japanese women loathe men with expensive otaku habits…
What man in his right mind would marry a woman, support her as a housewife, only to have his income completely commandeered and be subsequently treated like a child?
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...and 45% of Japanese women cheat on partners...
I'm not worried so much about the amount, since I don't have any experience getting by in Japan, but at the idea of this system in general. The husband should have equal say in how the money is shared, especially if he's the one making most/all of it.
There's nothing wrong with a wife controlling the finances, but a decision as important as how much spending money each person gets should include both partners.
Well, if the Japanese husband is working 10 to 12 hours a day, it makes sense the wife controls the finances. When is he going to have the chance to pay the bills? If he is constantly having to hand over the money, it is just easier for her to be in charge.
And wives don't want their hubbies having too much fun outside their knowledge. No need to let him have enough to eat out (she's fill a bento box for him, right?) and then go get a happy ending from the local prostitutes. No way to afford motel for a quicky with some money-digging whore at work that is willing to still a properly broken in husband and not have to work anymore. Seriously, think it through.
Mai waifu Belldandy will let me have as much as I want...
And people wonder why I am so down on marriage and say that it demeans the people in it? Women in this world today need to get a FUCKING REALITY CHECK and realize that 10 dollars a day is NOTHING, period and done with.
For goodness sakes, when I was actually having to drive back and forth to work, I spent at least 20 dollars a day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index , mofo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index#Limitations too.
While I am fine with having my money managed by a wife while I'm out bringing home the bread, I still think 1000 yen is a little too low. What if the husband is a heavy coffee drinker? Is the wife open to negotiations? How about 2000 yen daily expenses? I think that's reasonable for when one needs more cafe latte or cuppaccino instead of the sludge that comes out of the office's coffee machine!
And I expect the rest to be spend on groceries and household matters and leftover in the bank, or if she is a shrewd person especially when it comes to investments, put into investments. Minimize spending on makeups and nails. And only one or two LVs every half a month.
"If he was rich I’d want him to have nice clothes and visit the salon, and take care of going out or having hobbies"
<3
Oh! This helps lend some context to that one episode of Crayon Shin-Chan.
What bullshit! Those guys that accept that have no balls at all!!!
Shared income: bad times
...Wow. Seriously, if I was limited to just $10, I'd need to use up $7/workday to buy a month pass for busing/train, and it would mean I will be eating cup noodles for lunch everyday with barely anything left over.
...I think most of my friends would be using up more than $10 if they drove to work.
Definitely the one of causes of why more guys are turning gay.
Cost of living is also higher in Japan.
this is why it's very important to control your money, don't let your woman do the finances. It's a pain I know, but you will get more sex, women generally lose interest in it but if you control the money they won't.
So basically what you're saying is that if you control the money then the women will get paid to have sex with you?
japanese women are good for sex...but not good as wives..
"It’s his money too, I suppose."
Dammed right. That would be my reasoning anyway.
Minus the "I suppose" part. Yeah, you BETTER fucking suppose. -_-
They're saving the money so when they divorce him they'd have a lot to spend.
This is sad if the majority of women thinks like that and I was thinking to marry a Japanese wife home with me. There goes my dreams ~ byee
LOL, that's like less than my pocket money
I make him a bento everyday too!
^Aww,Cute.
why not pool the earnings from both husband and wife, then split evenly between bills, taxes, and personal allowances? a bank account is useful too. there's no point to a marriage where husband and wife can't work as equals.
I agree. After minusing the bills and mortgages and monthly payments on the house, i just split the cash in half for me & my wive and just leave it like that. Things are so much easier like that. Btw, if I had to live on $10 a day, Id cry. Seriously. I think I received $10 a day when I was in pre-U (or whatever thats the level b4 university).Having to live on the same amount as an adult would SUCK.
Too true.
If I made more than her.. than why?
Well, it's not like anyone really forced those pussies you call husbands into marriage. Why not exploit them if they allow themselves to be treated like walking bags of cash?
That's why 2D wives are superior: you get to keep 100% of your paycheck.
True. Ain't no 2d ever jack my bling.
If there's a cure for Yellow Fever, this has gotta be it. XD
....Japan is fucked up.....I really don't care about the women being in power thats fine and dandy...but when you fuck with my money and give me allowance with my own money THAT I WORKED FOR....bitch got to go!
I could make do with that if she makes me an obento.. and does the grocery shopping.
and once again marriage fails.
And Japanese women WONDER why they are so lonely or that their men go elsewhere for a bit of nookie.
Then again I wouldn't work as nearly as much as a Japanese male if I only was to get 1/450 of it. If the wife was using the other to support the family, sure. Used to look cute and adorable to my expectations, sure. To fill her own needs and wants only, then I would say get a job!!!
Add to which, if your going elsewhere for some nookie, at least bring a paycheck home with it. =P
It’s his money too, I suppose. lol
This is nowhere near enough per day per me to live as a single woman for just the most basic of needs. These women are insane and I refuse to associate my gender with them.
It's nice to know that there are women like you out there.
Even worse are the women who think the allowance should be lower. I think that thought is scarier... because the next most popular answer (16%) said 20,000 a month... So basically 650 a day. Ouch.
Thumb up! ^^
Keep in mind that money is not created equal. Local property values, availability of transport and gas prices, local costs of food, and other details determine the cost of living. Two different states in the US will have very different living costs, and you can get the same even within states. Which is why you need to take that into account and can't just think of the money in its exchange rate. After all, Japan's a freakishly expensive place to live at. ...Wait what
Seriously though, you can't go around banishing people from your gender. It doesn't work that way. Neither you nor they can claim to represent your gender, as little as a random group of male friends on the street can claim to represent men. There will always be morons and idiots, this is in no way limited to any gender. Anyone will also always be associated with groups they do not consider themselves to belong to, just look far away enough and those will happily show how they shove their false biases on you. These women are not any more or less women than you, they're just also stingy bitches. It's not inherent with being female, and anyone who claims otherwise is someone who fails at basic logic, and consider their definition of females to be more important than the actual biological and social definition of female.
The question is just what you can do to make it less socially acceptable for people whom you associate yourself with to behave in jackass ways. Always use the carrot more than the stick.
i wouldnt mind getting 1000 yen a month if she gets the same amount.seriously women can easily spend more than men.all the bags and shoes and clothes they buy
Hah, and they complain about men earning more than women... WHO SPENDS MORE AGAIN?
and going to the salon and doing their nails all the time
As if men really give a damn about their nails! For christ sake, most if not all just agree to the compliments just to get by the topic...
Barrneeeeeey Stinson.
... of course assuming that all women are like that. I'd sooner spend money on computer games and figures than makeup and bags. I'm sure my husband enjoys the perks.
lol, I have as many anime figures as my fiance. Last Christmas I bought him one as his present. I would rather have fun stuff, I don't use a purse, wallet is all I need, one pair of shoes, never get my nails done (what is the point?)
The only reason I buy make-up is my fiance likes when I wear it, but I hate buying it, I only buy any when I run out or it gets gross/old.
And the only reason he would end up getting an allowance of $10 would be because he is the one with a spending problem, not me XD
God, do I ever agree with this.
I never understood what's so great about having tons of clothes and other things... they just wear out anyways, so why buy expensive stuff? I'd rather have books, games, anime figures, etc... at least those last longer.
And makeup? That's just a vein cash-cow industry. I couldn't fathom paying 10 dollars for a tube of crap to put on my lips when it's not going to last half the day anyways.
I like clothes and accessories to a certain extent, just not on the f*cking-crazy levels most women have for them. Seriously, lipsticks have like 100 shades of pink, but they are basically the same crap once you apply them. Just get one, woman!
Give me a figure and I'll love you forever.
Your fiance is one lucky man.
Fucking agreed. I've never understood the general fascination with makeup, makeovers, bags, shoes, clothes, and the like. Give me a video game or book or figure then I'll be genuinely happy.
I understand how girls like to shop till they drop. It's the same as buying books, figures, games and so forth!
But really, I'd rather have a girl who's a bit outgoing, who likes to do physical activities at the gym, and not a down to earth manga reading otaku. People who only stay inside their homes all the time really have a problem.
“I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus.”
x^3=true IFF n<13?
I love you.
then again...although as appealing as the otaku type girl is, the girly girl's appeal is very attractive. i do love a clumsy ditsy airhead bishoujo ^.^
a combination of the two may be perfect
I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus.
"I want a girl that understands when I start talking in lambda calculus."
...wut? Good luck finding a human who does.
*waves hand* I'm here, so here. Most [read: all I've seen] of those bags are hideous, too, yet they're laughably worth HOW many [item of interest]?? *boggles*
Except I've found this recent facination with socks... Zettai ryouiki's appeal has ruined me.
@anon 191266: There has to be enough people that (wanted to) know about it for classes of it to exist! Keep searching! Or hang outside the windows of a college (please not a high school) calc class and watch for attractive females, that could work, too...
You won't find any lambda calculus in a class devoted to the watered-down non-rigorous classical analysis that is the calculus. Also, don't stalk women outside of the classroom windows of any institution. That is weird.
^ are you a girl? =P
You two truely are the perfect women. Otaku Nadeshiko so to speak.
do you marry me? :3
Correction. That's 1000 yen a day so that's around 30,000 a month.
Seriously lolled that no one that commented noticed. How the hell would you survive with $10 for one month, in Japan?
lol, yeah. Took me a while to figure that out, Artefact made it pretty confusing.
1000 yen a day seems fair to me(since i am not a big spender) but i despise people sticking their nose in my finance management.
For food AND entertainment(and gas?). Good luck with that, unless you eat the McDonald's $1 Value Menu 3x a day.
The point is you don't have an money for leisure with those sums.
I spend 10$ on foods a day, and have 350$ in living community expenses (aka flat), that would make 300$+350$=650$ of monthly expenses, excluding entertainment, clothing and so forth. Including additional expenses (books, gym fee, MA fee, bus and clothing) a 600$ monthly sum would be added, making it 650$+600$=1250$. A sallary of 2.500$ a month would leave me 1250$ for savings. I would basically need 30$ a day if I wish to keep up my living style as it is (this includes all living expenses). With just 10$ a day I'd starve and have to quit all my hobbies.
Ah... Mexican beer, the cheapest of all the beers.
The cost of living is not the same everywhere else in the world, idiot.
@1st Anon: Well lets assume my average monthly salary is about ¥450,000 a month and my pocket money is ¥1000 "only" for food/ to commute as a daily basis. Continuously with this routine for a month, hey i still have alot money left to cover my bills and for leisure purposes as well. Infact, as i mentioned in my earlier post i am not a big spender myself.
"D'OH"!
1000 yen = 470 pesos, that's twice my daily budget! For that amount you can buy lunch, pm snack, dinner, a beer or two before heading home.
There is, however, a 'special fund' for 'emergency' purposes that I always keep handy.
But otaku males are just the same are they not?
All your money is belong to figures.
Greedy women :(
This is all the feminists fault.
Because compared to the West, where men usually control the pocketbook and there isn't a history of women doing so, Japan is SO brimming with feminists.
Why is it that you people must inevitably blame every problem in the universe on feminists?
because it's so easy :D
Because feminism is just chauvinism with a different name.
Because it's the feminists' fault.
Easier to blame than take responsibility.
Because it is a well-cultivated asininity.
Because feminists smell like ass. They need to lose weight and get a job. A REAL job that doesn't involve government bullshit that's made up to cater to them.
stupid feminist
Money is power.
jeje "money is power"
exactly ;)
10$ a day is plenty as long as you don't count gas. Also on bigger stuff one would asume you'd use savings. Ofcourse if you go out and eat tons then this wouldn't be near enough... on average I only spend $20 a week (with out gas) I guess it's japan though were things are more expensive.
that is the reason why I abso-fucking-lutely hate marriage, no financial and personal freedom, tons of responsibility, can't enjoy loli manga, only get one hole, etc
$10 a day? show it up their ass and tell them to get the f*ck out of the house, who work their ass off to bring money home and only get $10 a day?
Single FTW
LOL only one hole - then wtf you get with 2D because i clearly see no holes but the one in your head - if your complaining about sex with a real vigina compared to an imaginary vagina XD
Ill take that one hole anyday
Don't forget about the "4th hole" right behind the knee. giggity.
I love how this conversation started on topic and it ended up about a debate on how many holes a girl really has...
and yes they do have 4 holes. The 4th one being right behind the knee. Props to Anon 2 posts above me.
lol @ FG reference
+urethra
+navel
Plus, u could drill more holes, if those readily available just don't cut it anymore...
cunning wife
5 if you include the ears
3 holes if you include anus and mouth
7 if you include the nose
yeah, but you have to pay a lot to get that hole
whores are cheaper that way
10 including hands and taped legs.
Add 2 more for the armpits.
1 more if her boobs are big enough.
Another 2 if you enjoy cumming into the ocular receptors.
these conversations are nasty...
hahaha it amuses me, carry on anon
I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull fuck you!
You get up to 3 different holes per woman though...
You'll be lucky if your wife let's you use the one hole.
Unless you're into guro and stuff.
Then you get as many holes as you want.
married and bored or single and lonely....
Heard of lovers? Enjoying the good part (sex) but skipping the bad part (marriage).
You could just not be lonely.
doesn't girls or guys will at some point get too attached to the other and you don't want that.
FUCK YOU LOSER! YOU ARE SHIT!
You fucking kidding me!!! 10 dollars a day wtf... A cup of coffee is 5bucks a pack of smokes 10 bucks, what the hell do they want you to survive on air and "love". One beer is 7 dollars at a normal bar. And people wonder why the suicide rate is so high. If I was in that situation I'd just not ever bother with getting married. What do japanese woman think they are sorry pussy isn't worth that much.
last time I was in Tokyo, a pack of smokes was between 300 and 320 yen, a can of coffee could be had for as low as 105 yen and a big bottle of beer could be had in the bar for 500 yen (cans of beer can be had at convenience stores 105+ yen a pop) and you don't tip at bars.
1,000 a day for 7 days =7,000
5 packs of smokes(3 for work week, 2 for weekend)=1500
coffee (mon-sat)= 630
7000-1500-630=4870
which is 9 large beers at the bar + some change, or 20-25 cans from a convenience store.
gotta keep the bitches in line
Vagina is power
knuckle is vastly more powerful
ask latinos
Proof that Japanese men are genetically inferior after the death of the Last Samurai, which happens to be Tom Cruise
You've never had a girlfriend, have you?
Alternatively, you've had a thriving sex life, and you're just such a badass that you completely controlled her spending. But the likelihood of that is next to zero.
just don't marry a japanese woman then :) But seriously, what would the woman do with all the money? I mean, how much do they spend on their own luxury and so forth?
Only if you're fucking weak. A real man reverses the situation, making the woman beg for sex because he's that good at it, and knows how to please himself well.
You're reading too much hentai mangas anon...
Women can be a dangerous creatures, but she would not kill you because of that, tough she would probably offend even your mother if you stopped doing "you know what" at that moment...
Not necessarily, Ragefat. I've had a former GF threaten to kill me, if I dared to stop doing what I was doing at that particular moment. :P
What can I say, I'm a cunning linguist. ;)