Rape Eroge Really Banned
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Jun 3, 2009 03:27 JST
- Tags: Amazon, BDSM, Censorship, Eroge, Mass Media, Politics, Raep, USA
After the previous confusion, Japan’s leading adult game classification body has bowed to feminist pressure and banned the sale and manufacture of so-called “rape” games.
The “ban”, initially invented by a broadcaster, has now been passed by the EOCS, the major censorship body for eroge in Japan, in the special meeting held to control the damage spreading from the Rapelay media fiasco.
The spineless wretches representing their various companies at the event were apparently resigned to their fate, and supinely opted to pass the ban, presumably in the hopes of averting legislative attention from politicians with nothing better to do in the midst of economic malaise. The meeting itself was an informal gathering, with no voting or otherwise.
Most concern apparently focused on just how far the ban would go (for example, banning BDSM completely as almost all fictional works of such incorporate rape), with some companies understandably concerned over what would happen to their products currently in development. Concerns centred on such crucial issues as whether monsters or tentacles would be problematic.
It is also thought that particular attention will fall on packaging (and titles), with the actual content perhaps not given such scrutiny.
Some discussion actually concerned whether the industry should drop the slightly euphemistic term for its products currently used, “bishoujo games”, in favour of “adult games” or similar, probably because the “beautiful girl game” moniker is inappropriate in the current climate of moral hysteria.
The details of the deliberations are provided by a member of the Abel Group who attended the event.
As previously explained in detail, the ban will only affect members of the EOCS group; this accounts for most companies in the industry, but as ample alternatives to classification at EOCS exist, the real effect may just be to cause a variety of cunning dodges within and without the organisation.
Notably, the EOCS previously banned games with loli or incest content, but this proved totally ineffective (perhaps as designed), whilst allowing the body to present a facade of “responsibility” (if appeasing moralists can be considered such) to those who might otherwise fret.
The current situation looks set to develop along similar lines, as long as certain interfering feminist politicians and international groups are placated into not pursuing more far-reaching legislation.
Were these elements to pursue a full ban in law, it seems unlikely it would end with just games, as clearly adult video and ero-manga would have to be subjected to the same criteria at some point (since the games in question are actually visual novels rather than games per se, and possess about as much interactivity as a book).
This would eventually end up colliding with actual novels if pursued with any consistency, so it seems a major Constitutional issue would then loom, as the Japanese Constitution is fairly protective of free speech. This is probably not the sort of easy victory feminist politicians on a “protect the children” ticket are looking to pursue…
Here is a timeline of events to recap:
An Irish rag on a slow news day picks up the story that importers have been selling Rapelay via Amazon. The theme is that the game encourages rape and is child pornography.
Amazon completely drops the product, including in Japan. Other retailers soon follow suit.
Feminist busybody group “Equality Now”, which organises spam campaigns to keep its members busy without actually having to deal with problems directly, targets the game, accusing it of human rights violations and telling the Japanese government it should be banning this sort of thing, like low crime paradises such as the UK.
The developers tell the foreign feminists to get lost.
Soon after the Rapelay developers cave in and completely remove the game from distribution.
Equality Now’s Japanese lawyer (the group has no presence in Japan) drums up anti-eroge media attention.
A Japanese diet member, an avowed feminist, picks up on the scandal and starts calling for a ban. Objections start with the opposition and minor parties and soon the ruling party jumps onto the bandwagon.
A “study group” is organised to decide how best to ban the games.
Broadcaster TBS falsely reports that the EOCS has banned the games.
The EOCS bans the games.
At no point at any time has any evidence that such games (which amount to illustrated novels) contribute to sexual assault been presented.
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arrggghh!!..my collection of future raep eroge
GONE!!
i just hoping that it wont be gone completely
I wonder if it is the idea that feminist group nowadays get less sex because of the numerous porn on the net. :D or they are trying to make more rapist in order for them to get more votes on elections less male in a community higher chances for a female to get voted because of gender bias (which somehow do happens) :D
in japan its literally happening :D birthrate on the decline more porn etc etc :D
kinda sad that they have nothing much to do besides nag nag nag.... :D
As what I said before...
RAPISTS! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!
AND I COME TO SPOIL YOUR DINNER BY KILLING YOU ALL IN HELL SINCE I CAN ACCESS ALL PARTS OF IT! MAGIC IS SURE POWERFUL!
No! You fool! The spartan are dining there too!! If you mess in that restaurant youre pretty much done for.
FOOL SPARTA IS NO WITH HELL! THEY WORK FOR A BROTHER OF GOD!
Alas. An unfortunate turn of events indeed. I would appreciate if somebody could list some major rape eroge titles here please.
My understanding of the current situation is basically EOSC saying "Hey, we did what we could in our part. So leave us alone." Whether eroge makers will follow suit really depends on how much of a backbone they have. Admittedly most of the titles with raep themes I played are pretty atrocious. Still, when I think of the next Rance game(in fact I don't know if there is a sequel at this rate) which might not have raep in it, it makes me sad. Maybe it's time to quit eroge altogether...
- Simon Cowell of Eroge
This is becoming a bigger and bigger issue now. Why couldn't they just let it go. More generic websites (i.e. sites that wouldn't even notice this issue) are now picking this up. Is this going to be a slippery slope to screw us all?
lesbians
we can only pray :)
Hey now, I'm as lesbian as they come, and I support eroge 100%. Stuff like this pisses me off to no end.
These women are just cranky. Lesbians just wanna have fun and save the world from aliens using lingerie and pillow fights.
well i have to agree with you there. at least as far as my friend is concerned.
Jesus, what's all the fuss about?
Sofurin adds "rape" to it's already long "advisory list".
Eroge companies who rely on rape titles leaves Sofurin and continue buisness as usual.
Possible loss in sales for them will likely be countered by lower saturation since companies who stay in sofurin will make other stuff.
Yea, a few brands came to mind...Black Package, Black Rainbow, Black Cyc, Guilty, Liquid, Speed, Tinkerbell, Waffle, etc. And the list goes on...Hopefully CSA won't bow to this as well.
- Simon Cowell of Eroge
Thank you anon.
I will see into these...
Bishop, Assamblage, Clockup, Interheart dont forget those. Those made some of the finest dark eroge out there.
Those feminists, they did it because no one would rape them due to their ugliness. They simply cant accept the fact that 2D >>>>>>>> feminists, so dont blame them. ^^
*headdesk*
Well, let's watch the rape rate in Japan rise like dough in an oven...
Damn ,this is sad. Though article seems to imply the possibility of cunning dodges, but I am keeping my hopes rock bottom .*sigh* Time to stock up while I still can.
Can I point out that the hyperventilating alarmism in this article is totally unnecessary? The EOCS is an entirely voluntary classification. It is not legally required for a game to be sold and many alternate organizations exist. This "ban" is ultimately a token gesture. Most of the hardcore rape sim makers aren't even classified under EOCS.
"hyperventilating alarmism"
A lot of the articles on this site are like that, I'm sure you've noticed.
As long as a ban isn't imposed by law, it seems there's nothing to worry about.
How easy it is to "fight" sexual violence by banning japanese games (when there are more rapes in US....) when enveryone knows that there are countries where SLAVES are still been captured/sold/bought/"used",where women can't even choose who to marry with or even who to speak with.....
AND THOSE PERSONS WHO JUST WANT EASY VICTORIES OVER GAMES THAT ARE JUST HERE FOR PHANTASMA WHEN SOMETHING LIKE 1/4 OF WOMEN ARE REALLY SUFFURING???? DAMN THEY WON'T FOOL ME!!!
I play those games, I've never raped anyone, never projected to do do, will definitly never do so....
PS: loads of what is called "classical" literature sometimes discribes rapes.... the most well known are those like the writings "du marquis de sad" or "les liaisons dangereuses" written by Laclos, both are well known as beeing old and respectable novels of french literature....
I wouldn't call de Sade "respectable". More like "infamous". But yeah, the reasoning these organizations use for pushing bans on material they don't like could just as easily be applied to other media, even novels. And since there's no reason to believe that rape games lead the players to rape in real life, they have absolutely no ground to stand on, aside from appealing to most people's shock at such material, even though it's all fiction.
well I meant that as a writer Sade is treated just like others.... of course he is infamous ^^ .
but still he is a genious :D
anyone ever about Sade Masoch? the second part of S/M Sade/Masoch. That side actually tends to enjoy such things done to there person.
Had to happen, after screwing up western culture the feminists are doing the same thing to Japan.
Can't wait till we all convert to Islam and then we can get our own back.
Ehhhhhh...anon here, I posted earlier about how this didnt seem credible to me. It still doesnt, even after Michio pointed out the (one?) link that seems to go to a personal blogger/abel member, and yet still doesnt seem credible, even after reading.
Im left with a sort of "I dont really believe it" but I can google for more info later I suppose.
Oh btw, not condoning rape. Well, its like - the internet is decensitized to it for the most part anyhow, this is the wrong place to be a moral fag I think. Well, thats what Im learning anyhow.
Aw, come on. Moralfag is a subjective term; I'm a moralfag because I think that rape-games are wrong, shouldn't be condoned or endorsed, and are detrimental to proper empathetic development. They're moralfags because they believe in the ultimate pursuit of free expression, to which attempts at limiting are not only fruitless but are and should be abhorred and made light of as the thought processes of bigots and morons.
Whatever type of moralfag you are, if you can't fag here, where can you fag?
Don't let a raincloud troll discourage you from letting your view out. The internet is only truly desensitized if you stop making an effort to sensitize it.
Please, if you so choose, make that effort ;)
I am thinking of joining equality now just to rise among their ranks and destroy them from within....
They picked the wrong community to mess with.
http://xkcd.com/591/
Lesson: There are more real people than internet people. Sadly for you.
i really wish at this point of time...
every rapist around the world will start drop a note after they finished doing it on their victim
"Give me back my Rape game!!!"
"I ain't gonna rape you if only i had a game to play with"
somewhere along those line...sooner or later...it will start give attention to the media that apparently, day by day, rape cased happened because the perpetrator cannot find a way to jackoff unless he play rape video game
then we will suport the feminist group to allow rape game to save women
Yes, because suddenly all men are rapists at heart.
I'm sure if a rapist wanted to rape, he wouldn't have bothered with a video game in the first place. :/
True if a person is going to do something what's to keep them from doing it to begin with. they tend to prefer the real of over the fantasy. my ex- studies this mentality in Serial Criminal Minds. So similar to the music causing the young to commit crime or suicide. even a U.S. Court threw that one out.
I pray to god you're joking or making some sort of sick, disillusioned point.
If not, get psychiatric help.
All I have to say is...
No ban on twilight? Isn't this a bestseller that includes abuse to women AND children? just throwing it out there.
lol i agree ;____; Twilight it worse because it's actually making an impact on the minds of many young teenage girls. not only do they accept the type of relationships portrayed as ok, now they're LONGING for them. I predict many teen girls tolerating abusive, controlling boyfriends just because meyer told them it was romantic and perfect.
Rape-simulation games aren't really mainstream.
When women fantasize about abuse, it's "romantic", "liberating", and "just a fantasy".
When men fantasize about abuse, it's "disgusting", "oppressive", and "contributes to inequality".
F*cking double standards.
"Notably, the EOCS previously banned games with loli or incest content, but this proved totally ineffective (perhaps as designed), whilst allowing the body to present a facade of “responsibility” (if appeasing moralists can be considered such) to those who might otherwise fret."
Maybe rape-eroges' fate will be the same?
I don't know if in Japan the BDSM fandom is as strong as the loli and incest ones, so I can't say if it will be the same, but if they banned games like that in the past to no avail, then maybe this isn't going to have much results.
"The current situation looks set to develop along similar lines, as long as certain interfering feminist politicians and international groups are placated into not pursuing more far-reaching legislation."
Which is why I think that the EOCS "banned" these games, to "calm" the feminists and let the flames vanish.
Let's see if this really will help to decrease the already low rape rate in Japan. o.o
Then don't sell them to the public though normal channels and by pass the moronic ban...I swear this will not end well...
It takes one bloody weaboo to put it up on Amazon.
No wonder the Bush Administration remained to ruin 4 more good years.
So much for japan being the a country where perversion of any form is tolerated as long as it's 2d. Truth be told, this feminist bullshit is sort of getting out of hands. Apparently, they want everyone to think their way, and they'll automatically condemn you if you don't, regardless of your innocence (Most haven't done jackshit outside the realm of fantasy).
That said, it's almost as though feminists think they're doing the world a favor by depriving sexual deviants of their source of release. This might help the younger generation, or it might not. The effects of a game are about as adverse as a video, so who's to say that forcing sex is any less tolerable than murder? I don't see anybody going apeshit over murder mysteries, or guro. Are all rape hentais/manga/fiction going to be banned next?
Or doing a favor to all women in the world for that manner.
Really now, it's like saying all other women are that helpless. Sheesh.
faith in humanity ... LOST
no raep eroge means ....real raep will emerge from their mind ..and the percentage for real raep will be getting higher and higher everday..
good job feminist!
Gods, I hate feminists. Which should be saddening, since I am a girl...
Either way, feminist or not, Japan shouldn't be swayed like that just because some foreign group says that they're doing something wrong. Especially considering that it's one of the safest places crime-wise. xP
I would consider those people to be extremist. While I have a lot of respect for feminists who strive for equal rights among men, those extremists are taking it way too far. What some people doing in their own privacy is making them upset, so they try to have it outlawed so nobody can enjoy it. That makes no sense to me. If I am not hurting anybody, why is it your business? I am sure there are more serious issues at hands that they just choose to ignore so that they can interfere with other people. Those people are not feminists but Nazis reincarnated as far as I am concerned.
- Simon Cowell of Eroge
Considering you are completely FOOLED BY THE STATS! Considering USA does all that! Considering being blind like this you did not know that. You should know that JAPAN IS THE WORST OF ALL PLACES! 50% is not even in the stats furthermore 50% of those stats ARE FAKES!
SO GROW UP AND WAKE UP TO USA BRAINWASHING!
I tend to agree with you as far as equal rights. but from what i have seen more often than not, unfortunately. A fringe radical group of a well intentioned idea is taken over and used for there nefarious plots in the guise of common decency etc... yada yada...
Ignoring the war of whether rape games are good or bad for society, I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that those feminists should go just in the Nile, or Hudson Bay, or somewhere dangerous... like, seriously....
HAhahahahhaahahahahaha I don't believe rape games would ever be fully banned. Those crazy developers would find a way!!!!!! Remember, most of Japan's income comes from games, anime and manga!!!
If something or someone ever stopped the imagination goldmine from flowing...The Japanese economy would collapse!!!
WRONG! USA FUNDS JAPAN MORE THAN YOU THINK!
Seriously, if rape eroges are really banned, wouldn't people retaliate and try to torrent as many as they can find?
they're skewed and twisted mentality says it happens "BECAUSE OF" all the rape eroge. so if they clean up and ban them all suddenly the world will be a better place. go figure.
GG.
Big Brother's watching you.
The real name of Equality Now is "Pandora's box".
The future promises high levels of rape.
I wonder, would you be disappointed if there wasn't mass rape in the aftermath of banning these games?
Are you considering rape as an feasible option now that rape-games are off the table?
Please, I'm curious.
I'm rather annoyed at the frequency this "argument" comes up at myself. Most people cling to it because it's the easiest to understand; the implication that this basically declares all rape game "consumers" closet rapists seems to be lost on them.
I don't think there will be any significant increase in rapes because of this. Mainly because rape games are not yet banned for real, even if you seem to find great joy in imagining otherwise.
If however, one day, they cease to exist, and all kinky porn along with them, then I can see some form of increase happen. Kinky porn and rape games are not being consumed exclusively by nice people. But even if one woman is raped because some sick fuck lost his outlet, isn't that one woman too much? At least, that's what I hear from pro-censorship people all the time...
"I wonder, would you be disappointed if there wasn’t mass rape in the aftermath of banning these games?"
-maybe but "mass rape in the aftermath" looks very erotic and funny for a eroge parody game xD
"Are you considering rape as an feasible option now that rape-games are off the table?"
-of course not! xD
I’m curious to see the reactions and see the beginning of a serious scientific study of the effects of eroge in the society.
the curiosity is killing me xD
why the fuck is USA tagged in this entry??? This event is Japanese-centric
Equality Now is an American group.
get it right next time...
E.N. is an international group with bases in europe and aftica.
Per Wikipedia:
"Equality Now is a non-governmental organization whose stated purpose is to protect the human rights of women around the world. The group provides an international framework for spreading awareness of issues and providing support to local grassroots groups working to address issues of concern to it."
... indeed, with all due humility, Artefact seems to be mistaken.
Just to set things clear, the site itself - http://www.equalitynow.org/english/ - about/about_en.html states it has bases in New York as well as Europe and Africa, and according to the aforesaid Wikipedia article the original office was based in New York. So while contemporary speaking, Equality Now is considered a collective global organization, its original roots did stem from the United States. However, perhaps tags for Europe and Africa should be added rather than removing the United States tag as it still deems relevant to this article.
that timeline looks like something out of a don dellilo novel.
rape or not, this is really an issue of free speech. if there were actual case studies presented then i might look at this differently, but it's seriously just a media scare turned into an absurd truth.
i'm a woman and i still can't agree with this. rape isn't even about fantasy anyways. it's about asserting power over another person in a demoralizing way. these feminist groups need to understand what actual inequality and human rights violations are.
As far as rape is concerned, there's no evidence that the games contribute to the crimes. No evidence that crimes can be prevented by the games either.
And it all began when they named their game with such a catchy title RapeLay.
As if they haven't heard of what happened with Grand Theft Auto.
Of course, this just means they'll find a way of cencorship that will be even more inappropriate than the thing being cencored.
This has less to do with condoning rape and more to do with encroachment on our right to free speech.
I am just wondering why I always hear that mankind is becoming more and more immoral, and at the same time everywhere I turn some religious or feminist group is trying to take away my right to see, hear and write whatever I like as an adult.
I've never played Rapelay, I am not an avowed lolicon fan and I haven't really got any particular tentacle fetish. But that doesn't mean the banning or limiting of such works doesn't make me angry. Because sooner or later they will get to something I really do care about.
Let me put this into perspective...
The chance of both these events is equal.
Event 1:
*playes violent game on computer in which i kill fictional, human characters*
*Thinks to self: "Well that was fun... hey i've got an idea. Why dont i go out and kill someone like i just did in this game?*
*Goes out and kills someone*
Event 2.
*playes rape eroge on computer in which i rape fictional, human characters*
*Thinks to self: "Well that was fun... hey i've got an idea. Why dont i go out and rape someone like i just did in this game?*
*Goes out and rapes someone*
As you can see, both events are completely unrealistic and simply would not happen. Now with this perspective you can see how petty this ban is. There will still be rapists when these games gone, likewise, these will still be murderers when other games are gone.
now what's the next? I'm afraid that they will say: "Let's ban human imagination and we must become some kind of plantae organism".
I don't like rape eroge but doesn't see any good reason in banning this kind of game, these censorship is becoming too ridiculous, is japan thinking in changing their political system to some kind of "communism" that censor everything?(I know what is communism)
the fun fact here is that Equality now has actually put a lot of women in the industry out of work. since less games would be produced. oh the irony.
Don't like it? Do what I do.
KEEP SEEDING.
Woman have no right to ban those game from us they are made for man the way that man want it and like it. It's stupid that they would ban any type of hentai game just some woman dont like it it's not like they are going to buy it. They should worry about those fake rape porn that porn company make then some anime hentai game and it's just a game nothing in it is true, when you molest a girl in a train dont expect her to just let you do it she will scream out and you will be beat up by the ppl around you and throw in jail.
Just who the hell you are, Sir...? Human, or animal...? :p . If you are animal, so, i will just agree that you may enjoy the porn, raping the girls, & making the girls just as toys & creatures, not as true women :p
Well, do you ever observe the truth, Sir...? That indirectly, the percentage of rape increases highly because many people do what based on rape hentai for true, to this world...
& I'm afraid enough that people's soul of solidarity & socialism are still strong enough to banish the rapists to the jail & spread the unbeatable fear to them... In my country, yes, I'm still sure about my country's people's solidarity & soul of socialism. But, how about the another countries...? :p . Different places have different strength of law too
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DARK EVANGELIST
I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Well, so long as your newsletter has an editor besides you, because your comment was so poorly written that I've read it three times and still don't know what your point is.
BTW, most women have rape in their top 10 list of sexual fantasies. Their public stance on rape is similar to how most homophobes are actually homosexuals - they loudly decry the behavior because they get a sexual thrill from talking about it (assuming they're not actually practicing in secret).
i would like to say..
FUCK THESE MOTHERFUCKING FEMINISTS AND THEIR ANTI RAPE GAMES!!
little comment for all nubcakes here. acually women plays and watches eroge. just like men too.
not to mention there is alot eroge made for women mostly. like yaoi etc.
oh.. and have you checked newest posts here? like http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/06/23/70-of-women-dream-of-rape-incest/ ...
also like someone said here earlier. in cosmos there was that thing that most women in the world dreams about rape/rapeing someone.
also yeah true too. why ban rape eroge? soon FPS and RPG will be banned too. then feminism will die? if all fantasies and dreams are taken away... who knows what happens. i bet there would come revolution or something. mass slaughter in *great justice* to get them back.
this thing is abit same as those france sh1t heads are trying to ban *INTERNET* on whole europe and then spread it to asia etc.
basicly its idea would be that all privacy would be gone. all unwanted sites banned. even to visit google you would have to buy *packet* that includes it.. so you woudl have to pay monthly extra fee just to use google etc.. you would have no privacy and couldnt get anything on internet unless *they* want.
as far as i've seen... in future shall be time of revolution. atm people are banning alot stuff... and in future they will be either murdered to get those stuffs back or even might start world war.
i can imagine lets say if internet would be *banned*... oh man.. guess how many anons are out there? those guys who decide internet shall be banned now! will be dead pretty quick and/or new people replace them and unban it.. same thing will happen with this eroge thing.
like someone said. now rapists can claim the fault on banning eroge. after it happens few times or more people start to think *=/ lets give it back for greater good...*
so what we learn there? feminists and other groups that ban stuff alot are doomed to lose in the end. you cant simply just *remove* something people desire. dream or fantasy about.
"this thing is abit same as those france sh1t heads are trying to ban *INTERNET* on whole europe and then spread it to asia etc."
The shithead is the one saying such nosense as you're doing right now.
You've just manage the performance of having even less technical knowledge that the people behind Hadopi.
Congratulations, it's rare.
Now, why hasn't GTA been banned yet?
It's afterall, promoting crimes, right?
Oh and let's not forget Mario, so people won't go and jump off the roof thinking they would survive.
Well it is faaaar easier to fight little japanese games, because their creators do not have any real mean to fight back, rather than big firms like the ones that product GTA (and their sponsors)because they can pay very good lawyers and have power (and the fact that they are from US) on their side.
As it was said in a previous post "EqualityNow" only want easy victories, or else their would be triying to "ban" slavery or forced prostitution in the countries where it still exist....
This is a war of ideas and values; a war fought with words for the ultimate prize of laws that enforce those ideas and values. Are you going to fight like an unruly mob, or a disciplined army? EqualityNow has an advantage: they are already a formal organization whereas people posting here are posting as a mob of individuals.
That said, although we are just a mob of people, we can still make a difference if we play it smart. Think of what end you are trying to create, for example:
“I think this banning eroge is bullshit, so I'm going to do what was shown in the eroge IRL as an act of rebellion.” - Aside from you potentially breaking the law, EqualityNow will then point at you and say “See! This is the kind of person that supports eroge!”
Another example: “These women are pissing me off. I'm gonna spam and rant against all the women I meet because every single woman is against me.” - First of all, not every single woman is against you. Not even most women; men and women are (for the most part) built to like each other.
In any conflict, it is important to know who is with you, and who is against you – don't go pissing off potential allies. I can guarantee that there are women out there that support freedom of expression. The real two sides of the conflict, in this case, are “Freedom of Expression” versus “Rape is bad.”, and the battlefield (not the war) is “Rape Eroge gets banned.”
Most people who read this may see that there is merit to both sides; however people will differ in how they feel these values should be enacted. So, ladies and gentlemen: examine how you feel, and choose your sides - may the best side win.
tl;dr
If you don't do your part in the fight, you don't have the right to complain.
If you do fight back, fight back smart; don't play into the opponent's hands.
Hehe. Thank god for torrents.
Well EqualityNow wants to take action against lolicon and Hentai Its not going to be a easy fight in Court.
Now watch as crime almost goes up by 10 times due to the shallow decisions made by the femenazis.
What's taking you so long, robot overlords?
If the EOCS member companies, their workers, and erogame lovers who are voters do not stand up to this, there's nothing we (in the NA and EU) can do about this. And it really seems like they are just taking this lying down, wtf is going on? Does the feminist group have some naked photos of the EOCS or something? lol.
If only everyone was very very horny... then rape wouldn't exist anymore! end of problem, hehe..
might as well ban any rape related pornography if you ban something like this
i guess those feminists are really lonely, they ban rape game so that those lonely guys will rape real girl.
First is GOD!!!
Then comes the LAW!
GOD preserves for all of us OUR fundamental right, that right is that we have freedom to do with our lives, a heaven or hell, so there is clearly no body's fault when we destroy our selves.
And then comes the LAW, and the most important fact about the LAW is the same for all of us, no exceptions!! THEN freedom of speech MUST be preserve for all our SAKES!, even if it is defective(AS HUMANS ARE), is better to have it, than not, so let there be Rape games, Hentai Games abortion and homosexuals, because is worst not having the option to CHOOSE!!!
End of Discussion!!!
It's a game, yo. What do these feminists really want? Be raped in REAL-TIME?
Rape?!
Who knew?
:-)
I love how people seem to miss the mark with pointless arguments like these. Focus on the reasons why people like Equality Now fight for equality, and not the internicine squbbles.
I'm fine with that.
rape and murder, which crime is worse?
really, between eroge, representing rape/misconduct against innocent women and beautiful children and western FPS game which represent murder, war, and torturing of people, encouraging player to murder as efficiently and as artistically as possible,
why was eroge more intolerable as opposed to murder training game?
I'll admit it's rape isn't something I'd support but isn't the gaming industry suppose to produce products for EVERY audience sure you cant make everyone happy but they're games not real life. it's like the debates about gore/slasher movies and violent videogames encouraging real life violence. this censorship is pointless. removing such a category will not stop people from doing it in real life.
it doesn't affect or degrade REAL women, do masochists complain if a dude is raped ( the guy in Fat Pizza ) no they don't care unless somehow it hurts the guy (even then that dude is called a pansy)
besides when will these feminists notice whats right in front of them WOMAN WHO HELP PRODUCE THE GAME lol a bit of an ironic complaint dont you think?
It's a fucking rape game. Hey I'm willing to back a lot of things, but if some company gets the fucking rape game banned oh wahh.
I'm NOT going to fight the good fight for every dumb ass fucking piece of crap out there.
true but if they start banning games now who knows where it will end up, people always complain about some genre or another, I'm against rape games but the thought of banning a game because someone doesn't like it... imagine only 'parent approved games' on the shelf
I was beginning to wonder what happened to the GTA game critics. looks like they're targeting rape instead of violence this time though
Well, I dont play H game much but I must say I love lolicon and rape stuff (Well either 1 is ok for me) but It doesnt really affect much since there is so many H game out there to grab ^^.
I never was a fan of rape games but this seems like this going to be a domino effect with H-games/anime in general.