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“Rape Games Far More Dangerous Than Normal Porn”

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Japan’s Koumeito party, long a member of the ruling coalition, has condemned adult games featuring sexual coercion and violence as being a highly negative influence on Japan’s tiny rates of sex crimes. They are calling for a ban or further restrictions on their sale.

As part of the deliberations of its “Project Team for Creating a Protective Rearing Environment for Children” it leapt on the anti-eroge bandwagon, offering a variety of baseless claims, such as: “There is a very good chance that the influence of violent sex games far exceeds that of regular pornography.”

They claimed that “research” into the influence of such rape games is lagging in Japan, as compared to the English speaking world, well known as a bastion of child safety.

Their (foregone) conclusion was that the government must consider a ban or further restrictions on eroge in order to protect the children from their pernicious influence.

No evidence, scientific or otherwise, was presented in support of any of their claims.

As usual, a quick reproduction of actual international sex crime statistics demolishes their arguments, showing Japan to be amongst the safest countries in the world for children, along with perhaps being the one where pornography of all kinds is most abundant:

UN Rape Rates per 100,000

Canada 78.08
Australia 77.79
USA 32.05
Sweden 24.47
UK 16.23
France 14.36
S. Korea 12.98
Germany 9.12
Russia 4.78
Taiwan 4.08
Japan 1.78

The party, a longtime ally of the ruling LDP, is well known as the political arm of the Sokka Gakkai, an influential Buddhist sect (or cult according to many), which counts such luminaries as Agnes Chan, the great crusader for the rights of imaginary children, amongst its members.

The party can usually be seen exhibiting fierce moralism in much the same way as Christian or Islamic groups elsewhere, though it has lately taken to denying it has anything to do with the religious organisation itself – strangely, its members just keep voting for them, every single election.

Minority moralist (whether feminist or religious) groups within Japan are busily attempting to portray Japan as a pariah state, based on the criticism of minority groups outside Japan, which is readily amplified by the mass media into “international opinion”; presumably they are hoping to pass yet more restrictive laws on pornography with the usual arguments of child protection.

With the adult industry in Japan apparently comprised of spineless cowards, it is not clear whether any serious opposition to these groups will be forthcoming…

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  • Are those rape statistics some sort of estimation of how much rape ACTUALLY happens, or is it how many rapes are REPORTED? I’m very surprised to see how low, for example, Russia is on the list…though I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they’re that much lower on reported rapes.

    Anyway, the whole thing in preposterous…they should focus less on protecting fictional women from fictional violence, and more on protecting real women from real violence. People should be free to depict the most depraved acts imaginable to their hearts’ content…do it for real, and they should get a bullet to the head.

  • They should ban all hentai and rape genre… so then that Japan’s men should fight back and start raping all the women like crazy! Rape rates should then go up 300% … That would be so fucking awesome!

  • These stats just tell us that the Japanese women are too ashamed/embarrassed/whatever to report them. I hear about that all the time here… the numbers might be low, but being on the trains and seeing the basic form of perversion is a different story altogether…

    Not saying it would make up enough to become the first rape country on the list but yeah… I dont think those numbers are as accurate as wed like to believe

  • Anonymous says:

    Hey guys, so how can we stop rape?

    I’ve got it! You know all those potential rapists that spend all their time playing rape games at home; on their computer; by themselves? Well lets take those games away from them. No rape games; no rape!

    Problem solved!

  • I don’t find Canada surprising at all. We are so much stricter in lots of things. Like our woman are all fridgit and we do not have the nice kinds of asian girls. I done some traveling out of canada and woman are much warmer outside.

  • Nice work fellow Aussies. I think it’s safe to say “In Australia, rape is like saying hello.”

    Not sure what’s causing it, probably the fact it takes years longer to get any game from Japan than the US or Europe does /sarcasm.

  • douchebags… look at Amsterdam… legal pot, legal prostitution, etc… it has an extremely low violent crime rate… if you have the population satisfied, why would they need to do drastic things to fulfill their desires?

    all these ridiculous “activist groups” are made of retard and fail because of their extremely biased views based on super conservative society, like the USA and its retarded evangelical Christians. try talking about anti-christian views or how their views might POSSIBLY be wrong to people in these groups, or people like Jehovah’s witnesses, and they will call you the bringer of evil or a corrupted person, with nary a second thought…
    those chained by highly conservative thought are nearly impossible to have an intelligent discussion with (doesnt escalate to a screamfest)… you want an example of ridiculously retarded american conservative ideas? just watch FOXNEWS… the way they do things… just makes you epic facepalm… but thats how most americans think and work when it comes to social/political issues, its highly polarized and ignorant.

    it makes me embarrassed to be an “American” when these retards are also “American” and scream to the world that they are wrong and that the USA is the best nation on Earth hands down in every conceivable fashion, and that being anything but the retardedly ignorant “American” like them, is like being subhuman… the TRUE meaning of being an “American” in my opinion, is being able to be a mix of everything, to experience different things and people, theres a reason why they call the USA the “great melting pot” of the world. when people outright reject ideas they dont even understand, they start creating a fantasy world in their minds… what I see is this massive bubble of the fantasy world called “Being a True American”, and I see it floating precariously closer toward the jagged edges of the big picture most people call the “Real World”, when it hits, catastrophe will ensue.
    for those who actually read this… i thank you for hearing me out, and I hope that you are not part of this bubble fantasy world I mentioned.

  • Wall of text version:

    Sure those are statistics but I fear how groups are going to use that as inarguable complete data to back their claims. (Saying that, I think this report is laden with bias)

    I think people have to look at these results with a massive dollop of salt. You have to take into account what the societal norms and effects are in Japan. Japan is a society that values conformity and lots of other traditional values quite highly. Date rapes are under reported because of the common view (I am not saying that they are the right views to have, just that they are common within that social construct) that the girl could be at fault, maybe she was being a tease, she wasn’t being clear, she was leading the guy on…

    And many rapes and sexual assaults perpetuated by strangers go unreported due to other useless societal backward norms. Before you cry foul and start screaming about how Japan is a developed country and probably have the same values as other other developed nations, you have to note that you probably have quite a limited knowledge about how it is to grow up in that country or what the norms are. Even on a smaller scale of observation from reading the news on SanCom, underneath all the sensationalism, you can gleam a little of what are expected of women in Japan and what they are subjected to. All the sexual harassment cases always include some phrase about how the professor/teacher/boss has been doing it for years to many students/workers but was reported only after some spunky girl was willing to speak up. And remember how often these perpetrators get off scot-free.

    Condensed version: Stats don’t tell the whole story. They do not hold social backgrounds into view. Many rapes go unreported in Japan, especially date rapes.

    “Argumentative” version: You are talking about a country with fucked up values. A country where Koizora was a box office hit. A film whereby women considered romantic and the male lead cute. Cute? My arse. He is a fucking asshole who raped his girlfriend.

    p.s. There was some comment about how Japanese girls want American cocks because they are bigger? They want Americans just because they have the view that Americans won’t expect them to be the perfect Yamato Nadeshiko. They don’t want to quit their jobs after marriage, settle into a life more suited to a maid than a wife. Fallacy though… because most yellow fever stricken fellows want a Yamato Nadeshiko… Haha!

    • A few issues I have with your statement:

      “All the sexual harassment cases always include some phrase about how the professor/teacher/boss has been doing it for years to many students/workers but was reported only after some spunky girl was willing to speak up. And remember how often these perpetrators get off scot-free.”

      You’re mixing up things there. Outside of the educational system, this assertion is quite false. The police forces and the whole judicial branch in Japan is heavily biased against men (not that this is inherently a bad thing), professors and bosses are no exception. In the case of employers and professors it might take years until they get reported, but when they’re finally brought to the attention of law enforcement, they’re done for. The real issue is the general mentality towards education. Teachers (as in those who deal with children and teenagers, not university professors) in Confucianism-influenced societies basically have a license to do whatever they want, regardless of what the law says. This has nothing to do with the general attitude towards women, it’s just that male teachers will seek to violate their girl pupils because, well, most of them are straight.

      “Condensed version: Stats don’t tell the whole story. They do not hold social backgrounds into view. Many rapes go unreported in Japan, especially date rapes.”

      Duh. As it was any different in other societies. That’s where feminism actually still has it’s place in developed countries. Banning eroge won’t improve things at all though.

      All in all you’re argument holds merit when applied to the position of women in all East-Asian countries, but what exactly has it to do with eroge? Even if you tried to apply it to porn in general, I don’t think JAVs are more degrading than most of American porn.

      • You have made some really good points and they are important things to take into consideration. But the point I was trying to make is that it is quite useless to dreg up rape statistics if they are only showing an incomplete picture.

        And I am not sure if it was the right thing to bring in other East Asian countries into the discussion seeing that there are too many unknown factors in those countries. (Do they even play eroge? Is it common? What about their rape stats?)

        * I have to say I am not against eroge in the broad sense, actually I am in favour of it. Bondage, fetishism, cosplay, whatever rocks your boat… as long it is consensual in theme.

        I am however apprehensive about those with themes to do with violence. I know plenty will argue that it is just a game and people are smart enough to not do so in real life. And the sick ones will do so no matter what it is that they watch/play. It would be nice if things are that clear cut in life but often things fall in the grey area. I am neither a hardcore advocate of nature or nurture. I believe it is a little of both. People have boundaries and those are often set by themselves and society. I just think it is unwise to presume that every member of society is completely capable of making the right decisions. And I hate to think that the weaker ones are pushing theirs if the wrong kind of information falls into their hands.

        With less words, I think being careful about this issue isn’t completely foolish and being completely open about it might be.

  • Child protection? Thats bullshit. The real reason womans waste their time, effort and money to advance their morale, is because they cannot find a man/too old to enjoy sex/too ugly, and they simply envy of a more young generation. This envy and suppression of their lust, in time, turns into hatred to this things.

    So my word to those extreme moralists: you are unnatural, you shouldn’t exist.

  • Anonymous says:

    Canada:
    78.08 rapes per 100,000
    out of a total population of 33,212,696

    USA:
    32.05 rapes per 100,000
    out of a total population of 303,824,640

    JAPAN:
    1.78 rapes per 100,000
    out of a total population of 127,288,416

    Taking those rates with their populations:

    Japan: 2265
    Canada: 25932
    USA: 97375

    All I’m trying to say is, population does make a difference in how good or bad those rates are. Also, somehow I think a lot of people assume Canada has a similar population to the USA just because they’re of a similar size on the map.

  • Rethardus says:

    “There is a very good chance that the influence of violent sex games far exceeds that of regular pornography.”

    What? Regular porn is influencial?
    If so, I would’ve fucked my teacher, banged 20 women at the same time, and gave my neighbour girl a good visit already.

  • Anonymous says:

    “The party, a longtime ally of the ruling LDP, is well known as the political arm of the Sokka Gakkai”
    assholes, just go back to chanting your stuff and praying to let buddha fix the rape-rates >.<

  • Anonymous says:

    No type of porn is ‘dangerous’. The only thing that it can do is allow someone to sate impulses that they have an maybe….. MAYBE if they see something, they will realize that it tickles their ‘like’ bone…. that doesn’t mean that if they have been raised CORRECTLY that they will automatically go out and start raping, butchering, etc. people.

    If that was true, then we would have to get rid of Friday the 13th movies.

  • Anonymous says:

    lol, I’d LOVE to see Micheal Moore cover this one.

    Moore: “You’re a dilivery man?”

    Canadian Guy: “Oh yeah”

    Moore: “So, you just fuck any woman that opens the door?”

    Canadian Guy: “Yeah, sure do. Sometimes I open the door though.”

    Moore: “And you don’t mind when they tell the police?”

    Canadian Guy: “Yeah, sure, it’s no problem… no problem at all.”

    *cue a few scenes of blank staring*

  • Statistics could be deceiving. When I was living there as a teacher assistant, I learned that in Japanese culture it is all about saving face. I heard stories from staff and my wife about rapes that would occur, but never gets reported. In Japan most of the time, people rather save face than to speak in public what they feel or what happened, because they don’t want to bring shame to their family. My wife for example, smiles all the time, even though people might be annoying her or if she is pissed off, she won’t say anything until we are home, then I listen to her explode with vitriol about others. Don’t take my statement as the absolute truth, but rather a dichotomy and just understand that stats as many other things can be deceiving.

  • This is how it works….us Canadians try to look as the innocent people of the world but in fact we are actually secretly one of the most fucked up bunch out there….whoever leaked this info will soon be found dead on his/her home full of skate marks and next to a lot of empty beer cans.

    HAIL CANADA!!!!!

  • Anonymous says:

    I don’t think it’s exactly that more rape games equal less real rape in real life, it’s just that more sexual outlets lead to the creation of LESS RAPISTS. Regardless of the content of the erotica, the more openly you give your society sexual outlets and sexual freedoms, the less repressed, frustrated, and sexually confused people your society will have.

    Despite all the porn, though, Japan has hikikomori and perverted otaku, yes, but you can’t blame that on the porn. The state of youth depends on the state of families and parenting in society, if you ask me. People with more difficult childhoods need their outlets. Better porn than drugs or rage.

    Honestly, I don’t see Japan as so openly sexual though. I think they see sex there as still a quite “dirty” and “disgusting” thing in society like it is in every other place in the world that have been effected by the tough sexual laws of Abrahamic religions, it’s just that there is far more sexual media for them. Their amount of porn doesn’t reflect how sexually open their society is or how sexually deviant they are as a whole. The porn is just about appeasing those who are perverted/lonely/need help. Appease the perverts and your world will flourish. 🙂

    I don’t think anyone would be able to control how people in society as a whole can turn out or how their minds will be. It’s best just to let people have their harmless outlets that will make them happier, rather than hope to change the way they think.

    • ‘course not the guy’d be ‘spent’ also what kinda fuckin’ nutfucker couldn’t tell the difference between 2D and 3D? The kind that needs to be put in a bloody mental asylum. They’re not normal people.

      Astaroth~

  • Anonymous says:

    I’ll never understand where they get their statistics showing that depicting sexual acts in games or shows actually increases the occurrence of them in the overall population. In reality, it is more often than not, that if such things are available to people in games or shows, they will go for them rather than doing the same in real life.
    If some of the population feels like they need to rape someone, it’s a lot better if they have some game to satisfy themselves, than having to go out and actually rape someone. (ie, amount of censorship and bans applied to games is inversely related to the amount of crimes of such things. The less censorship and bans on games with questionable content such as rape, the more often it happens in reality.)

    • Anonymous says:

      Ignore the last sentence:

      The less censorship and bans on games with questionable content such as rape, the more often it happens in reality.

      should be

      The MORE censorship and bans on games with questionable content such as rape, the more often it happens in real life.

  • The only thing that makes me skeptical about the statistics whether it takes into account the amount of rapes that go unreported. If Japanese women have a much harder time reporting to the authorities, the whole statistic could invariably be skewed.

  • Anonymous says:

    What those idiots don’t realise is that Japan, all the while, was minding their own fucking business.

    They obviously don’t have intention to do business with the world using their hentai games, possibly cuz they knew shit like this would happen.

    Those fucked up govt organisations and fem bitches have to realise that most of it are downloaded without japan’s consent.

    Anymore of this shit, and japan might really change the way hentai games are installed. I dunno, however technology allows them to change, that is. Making it impossible to crack in foreign countries.

    Meaning no more hentai! you fucking fem bitches…. I… don’t want an era like this…. T_T

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  • Anonymous says:

    More like Japan has low sex crime rate because people tend to do it “virtually” than raping a real woman.

    US did the same thing about crime rates about 10 years ago. They created some bullshit theories without any evidence at all about crime being directly affected to a helpful state and implanted a rigid political police to repress niggers and latinos. Turned out they increased the crime rate more than ever.

    Let’s hope Japan won’t be as stupid.

  • Anonymous says:

    Let’s say they did wave a wand that suddenly destroyed all hentai and porn off the planet. Would all sexual “wrongness” in the minds of all people effected suddenly decline or even disappear? Would children be free to play in the playground without their overcautious parents constantly worrying about them getting raped because “no one has any idea of what rape is anymore”?

    They’re crazy. You can take away the harmless sexual outlets that people have, but you’ll never take away their sexual thoughts and preferences. They’ll either keep doing what they want behind the back of the law until they get caught (in which case it’d be better to commit suicide as your life would be otherwise ruined), or suppress the feelings until it makes themselves sick, or resort to more drastic actions. They won’t go “oh well it was fun while it lasted” and transform their minds into the stereotypically and socially accepted view of “normal”.

  • Anonymous says:

    Oh god, geeks and their stats.

    Remember, this is REPORTED rape rates. I’m sure Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan also have lower rape rates that the US too. In a country like Japan, a woman reporting that she was raped while drunk or by someone she knew would be laughed out of the police station just as much as a guy in the US would if he tried to claim he was raped by Beyonce.

    • If that’s an accurate comparison then the statistics for Japan should read 0.00 😛

      Seriously, these statistics have a source at least. All I see you bringing to the table is assumptions and “facts” without evidence. And read the other comments here. What do you imagine the real number of rape cases in Japan is? If not 2, then what? Take a wild guess (as there’s no other kind of guess you can make here).

      Also, don’t point fingers and call us geeks like that. Are you not a geek/otaku to some extent? What are you doing here?

    • Anonymous says:

      Also, in many countries, it’s considered that the woman CANNOT be raped by her husband or boyfriend. There are also really bizarre rules, like in UAE if I recall correctly, where the age of consent is 21 or so, but it’s reduced to 12 if you marry them.

      • Also, in many countries, it’s considered that the woman CANNOT be raped by her husband or boyfriend.

        This really should be correct. Marital rape is a useless law. If it’s actual rape, then it falls under regular assault (there would be physical damage to her). If it’s “I said no but he kept going” pfffft. You joking? The guy you’ve had sex with hundreds of time raped you? Come on now.

  • Anonymous says:

    Japan has the least rape cases because all the population is too busy fapping to rape in hentai manga, doujins and AV videos. That may also be the reason why japan has low birth rates…

    • NotANativeSpeaker says:

      I should mention that the Japanese people are the ones with the least amount of hormones in the world, so men have naturally less libido.

      (I also theorize the lesser amount of testosterone influences them at not being as loud as other peoples of the world)

      Of course, there are millions of individuals that do not fit the “Japanese less hormone category”, but they are the exception to the rule (majority of people), and in a country as populous as Japan, they will still account to many persons. 

  • THE TRUE FACE OF THE INTERNET says:

    WTF!?!? What the hell happened to you guys?!?! where’s all that anti-feminist hatred we had last week!? We should be blaming Equality Now for this kinda shit happening to our eroges! We should be hating those Japanese democrats for jumping in the moralfag bandwagon! I say we start another shitstorm!! Who’s with me!?!?

    • Anonymous says:

      I like that there’s less blatant hate and lashing out towards the group in question this time. Those comments draw too much attention away from the more constructive comments.

    • it’s like arguing with a brick wall no matter how much evidence and statistics you show them all they say is “I can’t hear you porn causes rape” it’s like reasoning with jack thompson trying to tell him tetris didn’t cause columbine.

  • IRAGEDSOHARD says:

    I just choose to ignore this shit most of the time.

    More often than not, claims like this have no proof to back them up, as with this case.

    It’s like saying that FPSs are far more dangerous than TPSs when in fact neither are dangerous.

  • Anonymous says:

    I may be asumeing things here, but dont women in the US scream out rape if a guy just randomly bumps into them. Where in Japan Im sure that like 80% of the women who are acualy raped dont ever report it because they dont want to bring shame to their house, or that people will look at her as tainted, or something silly like that.

    I do think hentai games should be left alone though, they probably cause no harm at all.

    • Anonymous says:

      To summarize my position.

      Nice theory, now provide the proof that supports it.
      As in actual research showing that this is the case.

      If, you can’t, then your theory is invalid and can be thrown right into the rubbish bin.

    • you have that backwards actually, women in japan if frustrated with another man the sick urge to tell the police that he molested her on the train or tried to force himself on her. in america theres a high chance of the women or girls in most cases not telling anyone. most of the rapes reported are because the guy bragged to the wrong person about. there was boy in my school who would get girls high and rape them while they were too intoxicated to fight back. he did it up untill he raped my ex. then a convinced her and 2 of the other girls to press charges.

      • Then again, there’s also examples like girl has one night stand after a night at the bar, she regrets who she had sex with SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN RAPE.

        And if she says it was rape it was rape. No evidence required. This is why you should NEVER have sex with a drunk chick in North America – although really, you’re probably drunk yourself at the time. Hard to pass up such an opportunity when you yourself are also hammered. :v

        Nevermind the fact that a woman can literally make up shit afterwords, drunk or not. Who’s the judge going to believe? The alleged rape victim, or the alleged rapist?

        I’m of the mind that actual rape rates in most modern countries are fairly similar, the difference being how each country decides to define rape. In the more socialistic countries (I’m looking at you Australia and Canada) the definition has widened ever more over the years.

        I remember reading an article about a “Visual rape” law being drafted. Yeah, you can rape someone by leering at them suggestively it seems.

        Anyway, tl;dr – Stats are iffy but the top tier countries do still suck either way

    • Anonymous says:

      I do believe that is a factor.

      However, even if you multiplied by ten the numbers of rape cases in Japan, it would still be lower than most countries of the world. That’s why I think it is still an invalid argument.

  • Anonymous says:

    That’s nonsense. The reason why I hate real porn is that most of those poor girls were pretty much coerced into making those movies. Admittedly some probably did it because they enjoyed it, but I would argue that’s just a minority. But for eroge at least no one’s sister/cousin/mother/daughter/friend was actually forced to have sex against her will. Rape eroge might not be the best way to go at it. But I still think it is far better than actual porn.

    – Simon Cowell of Eroge

  • Anonymous says:

    I think it’s more believable that games like those actually HELP people in being able to tell the difference between real life and fantasy. It’s obvious that if it’s in the game, you probably can’t or shouldn’t do it in real life. Anyone that goes on to rape someone after playing such games obviously has previously existing problems that need to be dealt with or haven’t been raised or educated properly enough to play any video games in the first place.

    • Somehow, I’m getting mixed feelings about that.

      Half of me is elated that it’s not the US holding the ball for being Rape Capitol of the World, and half of me is disturbed that ANYWHERE is high up on those numbers.

      • Anonymous says:

        Nope, not coincidence…. the more anti-porn laws that a country has, the more their forcible rape rates go up.

        That’s proven in the Middle East, Canada, and other countries all around the world.

        It’s past time to realize that if someone cannot get sexual satisfaction in any other fashion…. they are going to go out and rape people!

        We’ve seen that with pedosexuals, and it GALLS me that people have not realized that the best way to prevent children from being forced into sexual situations is to legalize pedosexuality, bring it out into the open, and for parents to watch who the fuck their children are hanging out with, and not automatically judging if someone is a pedosexual!

      • that could be so hmmm global proportionality…. looks like some people just want to control the morale of the people YAY MORALE CONTROL <_< REMEMBER CONTROL MORALE AND SOMETHING BAD REALLY HAPPENS

  • wow…and i thought USA woulda been on top…

    i dont see why eroges are so bad… it promotes sex, la de dah…. all i heard of in japan is horny teachers and underaged sex, but given the circumstances in japan where actually being successful and economically stable is largely a BIG DEAL. the eroge/anime industry is one the primary economic sectors in japan, tearing down that wall would mean more economic hardships.

    i play games like CoD and GTA…that promotes violence with a firearm, prostitution, etc….where in America, any avg joe can get a m4 rifle instantly and shoot up a school.

    so…ide take the lesser of 2 evils.

  • Here we go again. Sometimes it makes me want to found my own country where things like this would never happen.

    And they have the audacity to present their case without pre-obtained evidences to back up their claims. This is total fail.

    • Anonymous says:

      I can’t understand this big jump either. I remember seeing some statistics for this in the past and Canada was much lower than this, closer to US numbers… if not below them. I think we can blame that loli ban or something. Or maybe it’s just that far less rapes go unreported up here. I wouldn’t see why anyone wouldn’t report a rape case up here, honestly.

      In terms of sexuality in media, I’d say we’re pretty much the same as the US… maybe only a little better.

      • Anonymous says:

        Actually, the fact is that about 33% of rapes are actually women reporting consensual sex as rape.

        And getting rid of the loli was a hugely bad idea, but then I think that the ‘child sexual abuse’ and stautory rape laws are a bad idea as well.
        We should have, a long time ago, realized that ALL sexualities are normal, that children (if raised CORRECTLY with the idea that NO ONE can force them to do ANYTHING they don’t want to do!) can consent to sexual encounters with anyone including adults, and that the best way to ‘protect’ children was to bring pedosexuality out into the open…… we wouldn’t be having any rapes right now, if we also relaxed our sexual morality and females started putting out a little bit more.

        As to why people don’t report rapes? It’s because the religious idiots and other ‘well-meaning’ people tell them that they have been ‘soiled’ by the rape, and that’s actually where most of the problems come from…. not the rape itself, but the people telling the person in question that it was ‘so bad’ what happened to them.
        If we would start telling rape victims that “Yeah, this was a bad thing and we will punish the person in question (more like put that person into mental health treatment), but it is YOU who will let it ruin your life or not!”….. a lot more males and females who are forcibly raped (and that is the ONLY real kind of rape!) wouldn’t have the problems that they have.

    • thats because of the strict censorship laws, did you know they added a few inches onto the skirts on sailormoon?!?!?! DA FA?!

      STRICT CENSORSHIP LEADS TO RAPE!!! when will they learn that…

      • Anonymous says:

        lol… you guys gotta take total population into account too. These are rates, right? But the population of Canada is around a tenth of America’s. So having a higher rate doesn’t really mean that there are more rapes happening in one country than another. Check my mathematical post further down near the bottom.

      • Anonymous says:

        Simple, it’s just the poison from america spilling over. lol. though I’m not too surprised. When it comes to sexuality taboos we’re not too much better than americans. maybe quebec is more open but the majority of canada isn’t. all the provinces are so different, I’d like to see some statistics per province, actually.

  • ArchieNov says:

    Hmm, it would kinda suck though if Japan actually bans these types of games. Not that I am an avid fan of eroge, but I admit that I get curious every now and then and check what’s new.

    As for those rape figures, are these rape cases in general, or is this mainly rape cases against minors? I didn’t realize Canada was the top one on the list.

      • “Stupid” you say… actually compared to say America our school system is much better. While more money is poured inti the American school system ours has a greater outcome. so… who are you comparing us to? As for the Island part of your comment: You’re actually right about that we’re also a continent and a country (obviously). In fact we are the only place on earth that is a combo of all three of those things.

        Astaroth~

        • lol, good one gyudon.
          I’m up in Darwin and yeah it’s pretty much like that. No shit.
          I would say that Darwin itself throws those stats off a good 50 points.
          Of course, according to the natives it isn’t rape if you’re married.
          The courts of course, disagree.

        • Fuck you shitweed. Who the HELL says brudda? At most we say ‘Mate’ but even then not often. As for ‘amanay’ …I don’t even know what that means. I suppose it could be from an aboriginal language but I still don’t know what the hell it means. It might be a little more credible if you were specifically talking about aboriginal Australians but you weren’t that or you’re dumb enough to exspect other to read your mind… Arschloch. It’d be much much more intelligent to claim that raping Aussie women is a bad idea ‘cuz they’ll report you.

          G’night Arschloch.
          Astaroth~

      • Notice who’s high up on the list – Canada and Australia.

        Notice who’s banned lolicon – Canada and Australia.

        Not trying to say correlation equals causation but… interesting ain’t it?

      • australia media actually hides alot of things from the general public,

        if you wana know, australia apparently has the highest rating of youth suicide also, that was around 5years back where i heard it from some educational seminar,

        • Fuck you. For your information 1) Australia has had a large amount of immigrants throughout it’s history so only a minority would even be RELATED to the criminals who were brought over to the penal colonies. My lineage for example can be traced to French and British IMMIGRANT origins. 2) Even if most or all were related to criminals this wouls apply – AT MOST – minor predisposure for crime so fuck off and stop saying stupid crap. Do you feel the disdain I hold for you?

          Astaroth~

    • I live in Tokyo now, and those numbers are waaaaaay off. There is so much train groping in the city that isn’t reported its insane. During rush hour, its estimated that in every train of the Saikyo line, some girl is getting felt up.

      These idiots are being convinced into thinking that this behavior is alright or even wanted.

      • Anonymous says:

        yeah, but is sexual abuse like groping and stuff the same as rape? I don’t think these statistics count groping and stuff. Rape is when a person is forced into sex, nothing less.

    • Anonymous says:

      not really. the statistics show rapes reported per 100,000. In America for example, there are far more rapes that are not reported than those that are. All the statistics show is the number of rape victims who choose to report rape. In japan women are easily dissuaded from doing just that. Many japanese women who are raped are often intimidated by their rapist into remaining silent while others are abandoned by family, lovers, and friends for the shame of being raped. Ai Iijima is a good example of that. Basically, my point is that the number of women who don’t report being raped in japan may possibly dwarf the number of those who do, so the statistics offered don’t mean much.

    • Anonymous says:

      Statistics mean nothing to these people. Tell groups like this or Equality Now about these statistics and they’ll just say that Japan has a culture that leads to far less reported cases of rape than any other country. As if no other country has cases that don’t go reported. As if so few cases are reported that it’d make such an enormous difference. I wonder what they beleive the real statistics are… 80? Obviously they beleive Japan actually has the most rapes in the world… but from 2 to 80 out of 100,000? Just because of their culture and unreported cases? That’s a massive assumption.

      Maybe it’s a bias on their part where they have put their foot down and don’t want to listen to the argument from the other side, or maybe they really feel it’s a genuine argument that if rebutted properly would lead to them withdrawing their claims. I really wish it were the latter, but I seriously doubt it, otherwise they wouldn’t ignore such obvious ideas and comments which have been presented numerous times, and they wouldn’t make such wild assumptions.

      • Anonymous says:

        These groups like Equality Now and so on should simply just realise the truth about human nature. The more you try to ban and stop people from doing something, the higher the chances of them doing it. It’s like, I’m telling you right now not to think about a pink polka-dotted elephant. Now what’s that image in your head right now?

        Simple. Something so simple easily proves the fact that the more you tell people not to, the more they’ll do it. There’s a reason why countries don’t broadcast on the radio “Please do not murder, please do not steal… Blah blah” all day long. And the above is THE reason.

      • fyi, ‘we’ don’t really care about the arguments of the other side. both sides are equally unreasonable. but once side is made up of many horny men with money, and the other of a few stupid women (not implying women are stupid).

        • Anonymous says:

          though you can also consider the argument that one side is fighting for their harmless freedoms while the other side is trying to demonize those freedoms without evidence and take them away from innocent people.

          Honestly, if they could PROVE that what I do is harmful to others, if not me, then I’d be happy to try and change, but as long as it’s still being debated they should have no right to stop me. And I and others read and consider everything they say (how else would I be able to rebut in my defense?), but I don’t feel they do the same with what I or others like me have to say.

    • what a load of shit, these statistics don’t take into account cultural perception of sexual acts. it is quite obvious that it is much more likely that you can be considered to rape someone in a prudish country christian country such as canada than “the best way to lose ones virginity is to a total stranger 20 years your senior” japan. of those 1.78 per 100000, the rapes probably include murder, but the stats don’t tell us that either!