Feminist Group: “Japan Must Ban Adult Games”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: May 8, 2009 22:53 JST
- Tags: Amazon, Censorship, Eroge, Feminism, Lolicon, Mass Media, Raep, USA
A US-based international feminist “human rights” group, Equality Now, is demanding the Japanese government ban adult games (and manga and anime by extension) which “promote violence against women,” and violate the human rights of women.
They demand Japan institute a ban on material “promoting” rape and “Loli-Con” sex:
“Japanese companies are making massive profits from an industry based on violence towards women and girls, and ‘lolicon’ child pornography is becoming a huge market.
Why doesn’t the Japanese government step in to ban the distribution of products promoting rape?”
The group’s outrage stems from finding out about the recent Amazon Rapelay fiasco, where UK politicians and mass media with nothing better to do found out about the game being sold in the UK and US.
The game itself, a 3D chikan simulator released in 2006, features a fantasy scenario in which the player can sexually enslave a mother and her daughter, impregnating them and forcing them to have abortions if desired. A free demo is available here.
The game did not attract much attention in Japan, being fairly staid, but several distributors exported the game (in its original Japanese domestic version), and it became available in such bastions of tolerance and liberty as the UK and USA.
Amazon quickly ceased distribution of the title in all its regional operations, including Japan. Amazon.co.jp continues to stock other “rape simulators.”
Not content with seeing the west rid of this insidious plague, the group now wishes to force its views on what should be publishable onto Japan.
The group cites the dubious “research” produced by Japan’s tellingly named “Anti Pornography and Prostitution Research Group” to support its slanderous claims that Japan is nation where women live in abject subjugation under the power of male perverts.
The group is attempting to mobilise its global membership of some 30,000 to pressure the Japanese government into introducing strict censorship, and in the process abrogate its constitutional guarantee of free speech.
Equality Now describes itself as a group which “works to end violence and discrimination against women and girls around the world through the mobilization of public pressure,” an indirect way of saying they have their members bombard public officials and private individuals with angry letters. It appears actually assisting such women directly is not something they care to involve themselves with.
It usually concerns itself with “discrimination against women”, legalising abortion, reducing domestic violence and female genital mutilation; pressuring sovereign states into curbing freedom of expression appears to be a new sideline.
You can read their lengthy screed against the evils of Japanese pornography here. It starts with a breathless review of the perversions offered by the game, and then goes on to make a circuitous argument that Japan has an obligation to ban such material based on UN anti-discrimination conventions to which it is a party.
They go so far as to provide pre-written letters of objection (in English) with which to harass the game developers, distributors and Japanese politicians.
The publisher of Rapelay tells the interfering group to mind their own business in no uncertain terms: “This product is intended for domestic distribution and was approved by Japanese regulators. We won’t accept this sort of criticism from overseas groups.”
Via Yomiuri.
With violence towards women and girls far less common in Japan than in the USA or Europe, it would appear it is they who should be following the example of Japan…
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doesn’t porn also lead to rape.. why they not ban too...
why only adult game... another discrimination to otaku who only interest to 2D gurl??
No no no, SEX leads to rape! In fact it's right at the Root of All Evils along with money and food!
THE WORLD MUST BAN SEX!
And feminist too
Feminists are a bunch of whiny complaining dipshits, and the sooner the world drowns out their shrill harpy-like voices the sooner we'll be better off for it.
Feminists are just jealous that they can't get good sex.
Feminists was a good thing back in the 50's when the situation of woman were the lowest. But now, I believe they are going a bit too far. I'm not supporting feminists anymore like before, i'm just supporting some cause depending if I agree or not, regardless of feminists opinions.
Right. The feminists have too much power now. They've basically made it harder for men to just be men. In fact, they've transformed many a man from being manly to some punk-ass pu55y. They've also made it to where some women are ashamed to play the traditional role of women at home if they choose to do so. The feminists must STFU and let things be. Getting overly excited over a chikan simulator made in JAPAN and this so-called "Equality Now" organization of feminazis (call a spade a spade) should focus on things in the USSA, not overseas.
In fact, they can STFU and GTFO of here too. Quit trying to destroy the otaku-faved industries.
You lost me at "being manly to some punk-ass pu55y."
I may not agree everything feminists have to say. But what you're saying sounds just as bad to me as any claiming to be feminist.
Let me explain it real effin' slow. Since feminists have come around, even a non-misoginistic, unintentional event were to happen while a woman is around men or a bunch of them, the guy or guys get in trouble without even questioning the woman's motives. Furthermore, since the movement back in the 60s, it has lead to an increase in "men-without-spines," aka punk-ass pussies. They'd gladly not take their place as men in society, rather letting women (feminists at times) take the dominant role, upsetting natural order. I admire their stances for women in the past, but their power-mongering, as well as their nearly partisan stances in America, have gone to their head. If they just stood for equal rights with some common sense and sensitivity toward men, ppl would not have any problems with them. However, their actions as of late lead ppl otherwise.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!
Seriously. You need to get laid.
Pussy men? Sounds illogical, Kajun.
But anyway, I agree with the whole 'women are overreacting' thing, but I guess that's because I don't mind women masturbating to porn for women.....unless they're ugly and they post a video of it on some site....
Well, anyways, yeah that's what I think. But you sound like a person who would prefer it if women were much more subdued. It's alright if a woman takes up a dominant position, as long as her partner (in a relationship) or colleagues (at work, and only if she's of equal rank to them) don't mind it. It's no good trying to force others to bend to your way of thinking.
Basically... feminists aren't relaly supporting women's rights anymore... they're supporting women's dominance, not reallly in a takeover scheme type thing.. .but they just want to go around overacting in a hyppocritical manner, pressuring for femal dominance... the end...
"Basically… feminists aren’t relaly supporting women’s rights anymore… they’re supporting women’s dominance, not reallly in a takeover scheme type thing.. .but they just want to go around overacting in a hyppocritical manner, pressuring for femal dominance… the end…"
Right in one.... the fact is that 'feminism' has become misandry in most of the world today.
Frankly, if they wish to 'ban' rape games (yes, I have played things like Rapelay), they should also ban Friday the 13th movies and the like.
feminists are like unions, good in there day when the woman/worker was getting screwed over, but now adays there are so many laws to protect women, workers and all that both are useless most of the time.
THese women should stick to bothering the middle east in there treatment of women... that they never do anything about... just like unicef about childeren.... there are better things out there to be upset on than pron .... sheesh... have a good orgasim.. be it by use self or someone else..
My reply to feminists:
If you want equal opportunities and pay, sure, go ahead. But equal rights? Then don't expect me to pay for your bills, the dinners, gifts, open doors for you, etc because hey, you're one of the guys now and i expect that you will do those things yourself.
And don't come crying foul over alimony and divorce issues either. You're one of the guys!
Aoshi, they really believe they deserve to have their cake and eat it too.
Well said
Seriously, what the hell is this? If the feminists have the time to be bitchy about the eroge industry in Japan, they might as well do something about women rights in Africa or Middle East.
then the human race will be extinct...
that's nice way to makes this news sounds too bombastic
I'm happy as long as I have my murder-simulation games of the FPS genre... now I only hope someone would make one where all the enemies are feminists.
Sorry overlord. It's perfectly Ok to have a violent game where all your enemies are Russians, or Vietnamese or any other country that royally kicked US butt, but make all the enemies feminists and they will whine the hell out of the world until you are behind bars for "discrimination".
Reminds me of that story where they somehow linked GTA and violence against prostitutes.
There are 3 types of feminists, the "equal opportunities" ones who hold valid points, the "equal rights" ones who want rights for women but don't care about men, and the "religious" ones who hate anything that doesn't appeal to their beliefs.
The latter of the 3 is present in almost every mainstream activist cause. There are ones against Cannabis, Lolicon, Guns, abortions, Internet porn, and anything else you can think of.
Speaking of which, I'm keeping my guns as long as there are people who believe the apocalypse is coming. It's only a matter of time before these morons are scared into performing human sacrifices by a meteor coming too close to Earth.
That's one way to solve overpopulation.
Or rather, the Blight of Humanity.
And thus, in extension, Human Stupidity.
Banning sex might not be such a bad idea.
Err...
My Head Hurts....
wahahahaha, so you need your hands to do extra job every day huh?
LOL XD. Silly noob. Urges and desires is what you're supposed to be saying. When you have an urge to have money, it may lead to theft. When you have a desire to have sex, it leads to rape. but people are so stupid at time that they don't know how to direct that urge XD. Example, instead of raping, masturbate or something like that.
but we'll all die out...
good, im taking you with me.
there will be lolicon in heaven when i get there!
Bwut I wike waep ;-;
In Biblical (eastern) law a man no only can have sex with his wives at will, he can even rape an unclaimed virgin and take her as another wife thusly. Females under said law system must obey their husband and they would obey the Lord himself. Men are not restricted to women's demands or desires but women are restricted to men's
(Dueteronomy 22 states that if a man seizes and has relations with a young maiden that is not married or betrothed (which is a female living at the house of her husband for one year before the marraige celebration) he marries her, pays her father some money, and does not divorce her. If such is done to someone's wife etc then if she was in a city/town and did not cry out to stop it then they both are killed (as such would be considered adultery), if in the country it cannot be proven weather she was complict or not so only the man is killed (for violating the rights of his fellow man). What can be seen is: punishment only applys to those who try to screw another man's wife etc, they do not do harm to men who were trying to aquire a female who was not the wife of another man yet: these laws were written to protect men and their property (or whatever you want to call the arragement), not women).
Females should be married off once they are able to have children.
Why wait till child bearing age?
Mohamed didn't.
Actually Mohamed did, he married Aisha at 6, and at 9 Abu Bakr (Aisha's dad) came and told him that she was menstruating and get at it.
He still married her at 6 though.
and if anyone tells me a 6 year old girl was menstulating I'm going to kick them in the teeth for being an idiot.
he preordered her by marrying her, he waited til 3 years later to use her. anyways, they say she had a great life, some muslims say she was his favorite, some muslims even argue that she grew to be spoiled.
but you know, stories. was jesus even real? lol. stories aren't important, people should concentrate on teachings instead.
Do you seriously believe any of that? I mean, if you do, then you need to get with the times, or at least read the new testament more.
You must be new here. Mikee is our resident nutty copypasta chauvinist.
And this is why we love him.
A forum without Mikee is a dreary and droll forum indeed
99.9% of all humans are idiotic, stupid, and/or retarded. The .1% is the first hundred people that thought of this.
Cause many people watch manga or anime, having those in it is practically sexualy advertisement.
hallo, I'm Japanese.
Japanese politician"Seiko Noda(野田 聖子)" she believes that adult games make claims. Oh Shit! How stupid is she!! I wanna kill her!!!!
Ban adult games? Well we ban you for being douchefags GTFO!!
Such harsh words from an Icy-nee-san. D:
some times you need to be harsh other wise the other side dosnt take you serious
Trust me, I know about being harsh. (￣▽￣)
I just thought it was funny to hear it from Icy-nee-san because his Kona-chan avatar and way of writing always give me this cuddly "nice-guy" feeling. ^_^
cuddly nice-guy feeling? sounds like a pedo to me
First time seeing Icy-nee-san in flame mode. But I feel you pain - GTFO and give us our games!
"They demand Japan institute a ban on material “promoting” rape and 'LOLI-CON'.."
^ With the above statement, it's not surprising that Icy will switch to Overdrive mode..
"cuddly nice-guy feeling? sounds like a pedo to me"
It's sad that we can't respect the same qualities in a man we would respect and expect in a woman.
Lord knows a man can't be lacking in brutish violence and hypermasculinty, that would be creepy!
Actually, yes. It would be.
Holy crap, you guys make me feel famous XP
yeeaap, gotta do what you can for the loli cause...
I suddenly understand EXACTLY why lolis are so damn appealing to people (people that aren't me)...
it has lol in it. it's like "lol!" but with the exclamation flipped.
hmm, wow, revelations are really draining, i need a nap.
Nope, you won't ban anyone.
Feminists are rarely assasinated.
Men on the otherhand are killed enmasse.
Good Men will applaud if you ban some women's rights advocates from life however.
HOLY FUCK YER RIGHT. We gotta start up that next world war then, eh? You go on ahead and start it up without me, I'll just go get mah shovel!
hey now don't be counterproductive. if enough, good, intelligent comments could be made here, then it could be sent to those feminist maybe. But they can easily feed off of stupid remarks.
Following the example of Japan, eh?
So if these games are in fact distributed outside of Japan, their use may quell a latent desire to actually go out and rape someone because of the uses and gratification arrived from doing it to the victims in the game and not the real world?
This makes a little sense. I think it's a pretty sad game all-around, but if you can get out your frustrations on a game same as someone with high stress and an urge to hurt someone can release their tension in a shooter game instead of doing the same in a large crowd, there is some value derived from making this game available overseas.
Also, if you are looking for a more eloquent way to say "(allowing) abortion" you could say "advocating abortion rights".
"you learn by doing" ... that's why most scientists tell you it's actually bad playing these kind of games.
if you don't do anything else but "kill" or "rape", in this case, all the time, even though it's only virtual, your body adepts to that motion and it becomes kind of a reflex.
but yeah. that happens to people, who are incapable of seperating reality from illusion.... just because you do something in a game doesn't mean you are directly provoked into doing the same kind'a shit in real life -.-
that's why i'm against this kind of motion described above .... i hate fanatic faggots ...
This makes sense. For the same reason some military institutions use combat simulators, flying or shipping schools use cockpit simulators, they understand that even though you are not spending time doing the real thing, you are preparing to get the motions down so that when you enter the real world with this knowledge and practice, you will fail less at your objective goal.
Now if one has practice raeping or shooting they are more likely to get it right and have more confidence acting upon what they have inhibited until that moment, in the public.
Hmm. Kip is conflicted... o~o
yeah. it's indeed somewhat conflicting.
but it just depends on the right education.
if your kids know it's bad to murder and to rape and if they can relate to the great responsibility (ie. social conflicts, victims involved, punishment, etc) involved with doing whatever is against the current flood of morals in society, then who am i to prohibit games such as these?
if they know it's "wrong" and shouldn't be done to their environment then let the fun commence!!!
it's all education. all those faggots wanting to ban games and such are just too stupid to educate their children right.
keeping your kids away from fire is not the right way! yeah, they won't get burned, but they won't learn to handle it either, idiots -.-
the same goes for all the protesters -.- all they do is demand, but do they even try to think about a practical solution? ... no
but one must be mentily unstable or already willing to go to such extents to do something for them to use the system to there advantage traing sims or such thes people are at the base level ALREADY willing to use the systems there training for that is why they use them
so unless a pearson is alredy willing or mentily unstable i do not see how this "sim" is bad
@Lost
depends on the situation. you don't always have had to be mentally unstable to want to use a rape-sim to learn how to rape.
you can just play it for fun and then become instable afterwards in a way you feel forced to rape. or do whatever.
@Lost
sorry ... misread your post. i just said the same thing again :-P
What B.S. is this? Show me an exact correlation b/t this game and an increase in rape in whatever country it's sold in and come back to spout this crappy excuse.
I'm not buying these wolf tickets.
Why do people always say games and other media TEACH or PROMOTE, why can't they say that they spread awareness and show the truth? Nowhere is it written as a fact that shooting games promote and encourage people to shoot something. Maybe by allowing people to do something they would otherwise not be allowed to, they can learn more about it, the consequences, the pros and cons, and enough about it to make the right decisions on their own. Any rape mangas I've stumbled across show the person being raped end up in pain, upset, horrified, and even killed. I've made that relationship in my mind now that rape can lead to those horrible things, so wouldn't that make it far less likely for me to go out and do it in actuality, knowing that the result of such an action is unfavorable?
Bullshit. The fact is that you do NOT move towards 'raping someone in real life' just by playing these games.
You can find out, as I did, that you are a pedosexual (I was NEVER attracted to adult women after 12 or so), but you are not going to go out and rape women.
And, really, most of the men who rape people.... they are sexually starved people who we should be PITYING and who women should be taking some of the blame for what they do with their unreasonably high standards before they will give someone a *uck, even with birth control and a clean bill of health on the part of the man.
If you are in fact replying to me, I urge you to read my comment a little closer.
I think the games allow one to take their frustrations out on a digital character and not a real-life counterpart.
About how men who rape are sexually starved.
That's what prostitutes are there for.
maybe sexually starved people have a little bit of their own preferences to...? like avoiding life-crushing STDs? Or they're broke? lol
I am all for pitying weak people unable to control their needs, but I will not excuse them with that pity. Nor will I blame women, they may have whatever standards they wish, they do not owe it to anyone to put out just because a guy is clean. A guy needs to be a catch who attracts them. Just because a lot of us are horny desperate guys willing to shag and lower standards doesn't mean we should pressure them to, I'd feel like a villain if I did.
>massive profits
>huge market
lololololol
Oh god man, HAHAHAHAHA!
Americans once again try to impose their culture on Japan.. what's new?
Yes groups like this give the rest of us a bad name. Why these groups think they can interfere with other countries like this is retarded.
Agreed. I, for one, would like to apologize to Japan for their antics and ask them to please disregard these American feminist harpies.
I know, it's like the way we try to export our totally subjective values and standards of democracy, fair government and justice to other countries - we should accept that countries with selfish inclinations, negative cultures (as if there could be such a thing, lol, people, especially en masse, can't encourage bad behavior or ways of thought, lol) or poor leadership (like dictators and corrupt African presidents) are self-enclosed arcs with no political, moral, social or economic influence on other countries, because the export of anime has has absolutely NO personal effects on me or any of you, and nor has the exporting of increasingly violent or fetishistic pornography.
I think its lulzy that anyone would even support such an argument, rather than making obviously arrogant and dismissive comments ... oh well, Feminists are trying to control our mindz :x
too bad they dont force japan to uncensor all the 'material' like in the US. XD
lol oh man~
and what sucks is all the best babes are in the censored videos
When hasn't america impose there culture?
I say it started way back, when japan lost WWII.
trust me when i say, you rather have Americans won and impose there culture on japan rather then - russia taking half the island and naming it east japan and imposing
As a resident of the former eastern block, I have to disagree with your opinion over the former Soviet Union.
Sure they had some really sick people in high places, but the crime rate during the USSR's existence was next to 0. Sure, the system had it's up and downs, but honestly, I fail to see how everyone's beloved democracy is any different.
Oh and BTW, the USSR had no intention of invading Japan. Believe me when I say this, if they had the resources to wage war, we would all speak Руский язык today.
Убей себя об стену, коммунистическая сука.
Сам иди нахуй, еблан.
Typical Russian revisionism. The Soviet Union was an abomination, and the main threat it posed was to defence budgets if the CIA let anyone find out out how weak it was.
Revisionism is the thing when people know what was going on but it was time when secrecy was dominant idea both in USSR an in USA so anyone can try to guess things but they may be real or not only based on your imagination. You can never find definitive facts. I think it's better to guess by actions that can be confirmed.
Protip: Feminist groups are no more liked here in the US than the rest of the world.
Femnazis around the world have always been imposing their value on others. Not just in the US.
They rarely get assasinated, where as Men are killed and imprisoned by the bushell (especially when they try to take young women as wives: that's a no no: it would impinge upon the secondary (used goods) market.. female voters and politicians won't allow that).
Men have NO SAY in democracies.
They are out voted and out gunned.
Excuse me, but men are NOT outvoted and outgunned. It is statement like that, that make me think that you have been pussywhipped.
The fact is that even most feminists don't like these radical 'fem-nazis' (yes, that is what one feminist called them).
They have been taking things way too far for YEARS, and it's beginning to come back to bite them in the ass by men starting to push back.
That is the main reason why most men are skeptical of allegations of 'rape' anymore.... they have been accused of it unjustly at least ONCE in their lives and know that women DO use it in order to pursue revenge against a man. Women are getting skeptical of it as well now that they are having men IN THEIR OWN FAMILIES being unjustly accused of rape and seeing that, yes, women do use it to pursue a revenge vendetta against men.
Fortunately that just may be enough reason for their appeal to be totally ignored from the get go.
i lol'd ... you gotta hate those damn women right acitivsts ...
what about all the fucked up games in which you brutally kill and murder men? they don't give a damn shit about that.
what if i want do fucking IMAGINE raping a woman? let be be and THINK and SAY what i want!!!!
so true...games like GTA...haha
and if they actually go on with this, it be pretty sad as the animation and porno industry makes a VERY large part of their economy and would put hundreds of thousands jobless...
in this recession, one in japan can only hope to maintain their jobs where they work... only other solution is to kill yourself, which isent that great...-_-
its true, damn Americans and Englishmen t in which lives in a world that is more violent and distorted than japan should just shut up and leave them alone.
Stereotype much? Americans and Brits hate these P.C. groups too, sir. Plz get some fresh air.
I remember there being a game where you dominate men.....through typing on your keyboard. It was educational and degrading to men, but I don't see any guy complaining about it.
Of course, men (and women who bother to look at reality) recognize that as a fetish, while feminazis think it's a result of society wrongdoing. That's why we have the term S&M here on the internet.
Like I said, Japan's weird.
Oh wow. This why 3D women are pig disgusting. <__<
3D is pig disgusting, that's why we play those adult games.
And thats why you're still a virgin.
but if all women become feminist like these one then i rather stay a virgin then one of them pulling out a strap on and saying something about equality
hahaha that's difinitley a good one ^.-
It's really not, pegging can actually be pretty hot and it's not just the feminazis who want to do it. Please do not associate this erotic procedure with bitches who want to censor free speech.
it's not hard to lose your virginity. since you can just pay a whore to take it off your hands, or just find an equally desperate woman, obviously it's most likely a personal choice if you still have it after becoming 18.
But hookers have AIDS and ronery bitches will stalk you afterwards, do not want.
Solution, develop some social skills and find a nice normal girl without AIDS and who won't stalk you.
???
Profit!
I really hate feminists, its all well and good to want the good things that come with being a man, but as soon as they get fair treatment on stuff that's not so good they throw a bitch fit, its a lose lose situation.
I hope all feminists catch something nasty.
also males can get raped as well ;D
this is sooo true... demand equial rights then when they get them and something they dont like come's along they complain about it... its beond frustrating
give them some yaoi or shota eroge then! let's see what their reaction XD
Best friggin' idea I've read so far in this thread. Seconded ^^
I have thought of this too, but they would probably still think that the women in the manga are being exploited by the shota, or that they are trying to make it seem like women are all rapists and thus can't be victims.
It's like the saying "give someone an inch, they take feet."
Nonono
It's not feet
its MILE
Maybe he's implying:
Give a femnazi a bit more freedom, and they'll take out your feet from under you (deprive you of your freedoms to bolster their's)
i dun know if getting raped can be called having certain rights. but i understand what to try to get at.
imagine. men have been known for raping women since the dawn of our race. altough women do rape men as well. so whatever.
anyways. feminists don't want equal rights, they want MORE rights than males. THAT's the fucking problem -.-
Right in one. Feminists DON'T want equal rights, they want more rights than men have, and men are getting plenty fucking tired of that!
Maniac and anon, you are stereotyping. Some feminists want more rights than they currently have. Others want equal rights. Others want more rights than men. There are different calibres of this activism, so don't clump them together. There are also male feminists. The common trend is advancing women's rights, but it varies on where and how far.
And the politicians are too spinless to stand against it.
Oh look, more stereotyping feminists as one, single group. Who all share the exact same opinions.
Of course.
Obviously.
When other feminists start speaking out against these radical fem-nazis, then I will admit that they don't share the same opinions. Until then, I am going to assume that if you don't speak out against these people on a daily basis, that you agree with them.
This is the attitude a lot of people take with muslims. It might be more appropriate with them, but if they can be scared, then moderate feminists can be as shit-scared of feminazis as most guys are. After all, do you want some fat hate-filled person to be all "you have betrayed your sex!" and then dump feces in your hair?
They are probably speaking out and we're not noticing it enough, or maybe keeping it to themself, so ask them, talk about important issues, be worldly.
Amen Tyciol, who wants to be lynched by who you thought were your fellow friends/activists? People tend to follow the crowd than act out against it; it's just how societies function.
yeah we should ban all those CS games because they depict men killing each other and they promote violence and dissonance among men. =.=
AMERICAN QUALITY now! They're so bored to invent such thing!
sigh .. freedom of speach dose not mean freedom to applie your views and enforce them..
argh my head hurts from the stupidity on display here
They even give sample letters to send to the government, lol.
They kindly left their contact details though: http://www.equalitynow.org/english/contact/contact_en.html - I think we should voice our opinions back to them, anyone need a sample letter?
The Legion must gather!!
and pressure them to death
nag them to death you mean? the way they try to nag the rest of the world to death with their own damn opinions,
I just sent them a pretty big letter going against quite a few of their points. I doubt they will read it but if anyone wants a copy, I'll forward it to you as well.
The game itself, a 3D chikan simulator released in 2006, features a fantasy scenario in which the player can sexually enslave a mother and her daughter, impregnating them and forcing them to have abortions if desired. A free demo is available here.
A free demo is available here.
That's why I read Sankaku xD. oh and I deman a Rape on these *feminists*
Does anyone have a mod to change the girls' faces to theirs?
That made me laugh. Artefact seems to be promoting simulated raep.
Nah, he just wants people to have another venue to judge and form their own opinions. If you've played the sim and judge it gruesome, you are entitled to it and have enough information to back up that perspective; but if you just follow the trend, how can you form your own opinion?
Methinks if you ban these things, that people will unload their frustration in other more dangerous and perverted ways, leading to a sex crime wave! Yes, No?
tbh i would say no, simply caz a "game" is removed dose not mean people will go on killing sprees ... i dont play FPS's to stop my self going out and guning people down i play them caz there fun..
if you are stoped from playing a game this dose not mean your going to go out in to the wold and reenact the game... if some one dose do this then they would of snaped eventualy and they were probly mentily unstable
i would say yes and no though
no on the same line of your reasoning, but yes, because it does provide some form of relief, you must wonder why japans rape is lower than that of other countries, yes because mostly it gets un-noticed or un-mentioned but also because it provides a form of relieft, and most of those desperate ppl have tenga flip holes... which apparently is beter than real women... VIVA JAPAN!!!
True, but shooting a gun and sex are totally different, you don't have the URGE to shoot (unless you're mentally ill), but you do have urge for sex.
But you do on occasion have the urge to inflict pain onto others. In that respect, violence and sex are similar since they both are temptations people have.
Yes, to be blunt. The fact is that people who play violent video games (as long as they do not have OTHER REAL VIOLENCE in their lives in real life) are less likely to express themselves violently in real life.
That is a little thing that the fem-nazis don't want to admit: these games are actually KEEPING females of all ages from being raped by men in the long run.
I'm amused that they bother with these virtual girls and their virtual rights when real 12 year old girls get killed by US Tactical strikes in the Middle East :(
I have to agree there. And also, this is happening in my city too, girls who are minors are being prosecuted for distributing pictures of themselves under the grounds of "distributing child pornography." Now if I am not mistaken.. those laws were written to PROTECT them not prosecute them. How messed up is all of this? THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD!!!
the world was sane? When the fuck was that?!?/
Good point...
Agreed. Methinks the world was never really sane. Just has varying degrees of chaos.
Wow and did you hear that there boyfriends who they sent the pictures to got charged with having child porn. WTF like you said if there supposed to be the victims why the hell are all 6 of em being prosecuted and labeled as sex offenders >..< Say what you want but don't force it on others!
Wow that sucked cut out some of my post. Well as I was trying to say I don't see Japans rape/female hate crimes going sky high so why fix whats not broken?
B/c, endersgame, they think they can "improve" it
..."in America!"
That is the reason why I say that the 'child pornography', child sexual abuse and statutory rape laws need to go 'bye-bye'.
I have NO problem with going after someone if they ACTUALLY FORCE A CHILD INTO SEX with physical force or threats..... but most pedosexuals are not doing that today, and the few that do, by and large, are only doing it because they cannot go up to a child or teenager, ask them for a fuck, and get a yes or no!
We simply need to realize that children do NOT need protection from sex. They do need protection from STD's, but then again so do adults, and that would be a good argument for an indelible brand or mark on someone who has HIV/AIDS or another incurable, persistent STD.
You need protection from sex until you're adequately educated in the dangers of STDs, why you should care about risk, etc.
Nobody gives a shit about them brown people. And neither should you. Go cry me a river if you must.
I like how a relatively small group of foreigners believe they have the right, and power, to change the minds and laws of another country. Especially a country which has displayed its displeasure over foreigners having a say in their politics.
And damn Amazon for being a bunch of spineless punks, as well as all others who bail out under pressure.
They are a company that service goods, and maintain a good image. when they associate themselves with a rape simulator that's bad rep. when people start protesting - and then you start losing money - because the group is telling everyone to boycott amazon ofc your gonna bail out under pressure - only good business people do - only the retard stays and fight it - and a rape simulator is not worth several million dollars a month
Sometimes I wonder if THAT alone is the reason why they take on these stupid challenges--so they can say they beat down a country's laws, where all others have failed. The reputation from something like that would give them even more power to do what they want.
Japan's rules are their Kobayashi simulator
You know, it's not the women who have it rough today. No, they have it pretty fucking good. Now us white guys... we really get shafted from all directions these days. -.-
sounds like something from a gay movie...
I hate feminist groups... They probably can't get a guy to fuck them so they're bitter...
lol
lmao
lulz abound.
I have to admit, even as a feminist sympathizer, I like that "they probably can’t get a guy to fuck them so they’re bitter" statement.
I say it's better they don't procreate, anyway. Vile harpies...
Unfortunately there are sperm banks, sorry but it doesn't stop them.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, let them keep trying.
“This product is intended for domestic distribution and was approved by Japanese regulators. We won’t accept this sort of criticism from overseas groups.”
“MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS Feminist”
well said !
im on your side Rapelay !
Hell we all are,even though I don't like that game.
Yet they leave fighting games online where you can whip the crap out of female characters all night and day.
Yay equality?
Honestly, that's not about exploiting women.
Having women in fighting games is a part of equality, it's promoting the idea that women can be as a formidable fighting opponent as a man.
It's giving them honor and respecting their ability to fight. As opposed to leaving them out of the picture completely and only including men in fighting games.
In fighting games, the objective is an honorable battle.
In rape games, the objective is to exploit women.
It would be more misogynist and patriarchal to leave women OUT of fighting games. In fact, if fighting games were to leave women out, Amazon feminists and various other kinds, would be creating a shitstorm over it.
What about the fact that all the female fighters are always flashing their underwear while they fight, which of course makes sense, because in real life, if you were wearing something so revealing, there's bound to be plenty of things showing while flipping and jumping around, but why then, does nothing like that happen to the male fighters?
Not that I'm complaining.
The male characters tend to wear bulky clothing around those regions, or some kind of cup armour.
But if you were to take a look at it from both female and male sides, both genders in the game offer eye candy...it's just that animating occasional pantsu exposure is a hell of a lot easier than animating constant exposure of rippling, but not grossly so, muscles.
When Ahhnold hit the big screen as Conan the barbarian, a lot of girls drooled over him and guys didn't say anything about it. the guy had nothing but a fur loincloth. I thought conan was cool growing up. But a warrior woman who wears little clothing seems to be seen as sexist and woman demeaning. THere was Xena, and she worked out to some extent with both genders, but I'd still say she was far more modestly dressed and armored than Conan, or even Hercules, who often ended up fighting shirtless.
Also, it's been proven that woman find muscles and tough guys sexy, but it's just that girls are grown to associate muscular men with stupidity, sports obsessions, a large ego, and other less appealing things. I'd say the same thing happens with men and boobs, as a lot of men tie large boobs or revealing clothing, and even an hourglass figure to being an idiot, a whore, a bitch, a gold digger, a slut, a porn star, or something else that isn't appealing. Ultimately, boobs, muscles, tight asses, sexual organs, and other gender-defining things are sexually appealing to nearly all humans, but many people are just raised by society to associate them with dirty, negative things.
I got bored so I sent e-mail to the n00bs.
"As a person who believes that every person has every great rights, I do believe that you're infringing their Freedom of Speech.
There is no conducted studies that proves this game, or any similar game, has caused more violence against females in Japan then any other countries. If you point to studies right, it is rather proven that Japan has far less sexual criminals then American or most developed nations. If this is case, I do not see where this is going. Japan has culture of animation and game of this sorts for a while, and there was no raise of sexual crimes in that country contrary to what you're thinking. Are you attacking the company just because "game looks bad" on women? So when movie against rape and such are to be shown, how would directors and writers show the emotional pain the victim felt without describing and writing it? Is this game that entirely bad? If you insist, where are the proofs? Just the fact that this game is derogatory does not seems to cover it; rather, what you're asking for is mere censorship against all art medium containing sexual assault, whether good or bad, without any proof or research material.
In simplicity, I can't help but notice you're asking them to withdraw all games with such views. Wouldn't this call any movie, novel, or art describing rape and sexual assault to be called down, too?
I believe what you're doing is mere call for pure censorship, and instead of calling for right for women, you're taking away rights away from all human beings, and I believe you guys should stop.
If there's any other problem, please contact me @ dooly00000@optonline.net. Thank you.
-K.K., Advocate of Human Rights."
Go Go FoolyDooly!!
<3
May we ask if you can post there response here if you get one :) would love to see there biassed and stupid response to this.
We should spam them with emails and give them a taste of their medicine
I am not a big fan of this game, I did hate it but I believe if they want to censor this then they should also censor GTA4 and any other similar game
I concur. In fact, let this get to /b/ and they'll "fix" this problem.
lul I luv you Sankaku
I was thinking of that, /b/ lately has been doing a lot of DDOS attacks they might be interested in adding these people to their list they just need some motivation
good work or should i say point there.
Good job FoolyDooly. Please post their response asap.
They can take our lives. But they cannot take away...our Eroge!!! *Braveheart cry*
We can also get back...our testicular fortitude!!!
For the Tentacles!!!
This vaguely resembles the RE5 being racist arguemnent. Someone should start an organization called 'AIM'(Anti-Ignorant Moralists). Which pushes to ban the outright ignorant from forcing their bias and uneducated views on others i.e people who say ban violent videogames, ban porn, ban homosexuals, ban loli, ban anime, ban religious jokes, ban Harry Potter, ban all imagination...It's one thing to say ban this media in your home country but to overseas?
I found this a while back....kind of ironic I have to say http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/too-violent-knightley-advert-banned-from-tv-1674393.html
good idea... more than half of the people in sankaku will be more than willing to join
They should fuck them selves those international feminist bastards. There targeting the wrong crowd. I guess those does bitches say that a mum fuck his own son,while threatening him with violence, huh? Speak up, sluts..
You didn't make much sense but I get what you mean. You got my vote~!
You mean does bitches won't say that a mum fucking his own son while threatening him with violence is fuck up, however you won't do shit about that because he not a woman. Right?
Stand for traditional values, and they abandon you too. Hooray sisterhood?
This is madness!
A million femnazis...descend upon hapless males, who will defend them in their hour of need from the impending dildo raep swarm?
NOW I LOST IT
I KNOW I CAN KILL
THE TRUTH EXISTS BEYOND THE GAMES
rofl. I see what you did there.
"Now rise up my fellow Keiakusha, it's time to exterminate those biatches.."
*Eyes glow red*
Rather, Japan must ban feminism and the US unban any 2D restriction
Oh goodness, let's ban feminism in a country with loads of sexism to fight!
No.
As much as I think Japan has many forward strides in areas such as certain areas of Transgenderism, women STILL have much to gain.
For instance, respect in the workforce. Women are still seen too much as caretakers and not moneymakers in Japan.
when i see women do slug work and i mean hard slug work ill change my views.Point i'm getting at is i can not gave breast milk as a man to a child.
Femnazis have always been counter productive in terms of promoting female equalities. Just about all of the real strides made in female rights progression around the world were done by *gasp* not feminists, but regular civil rights activists.
Doing craps like attempting to violate people's sacred rights to free expressions would only go against their causes.
Kinda hard to take female equality seriously if a large outspoken minority of them say they'd rather homemake and have a rich husband instead of honest work. The minority ruin it for the majority
But some woman DO want to work, and some men don't let them. Even if the majority still want to just be housewives, even if a single woman wants to go against that and do something else, she should be given complete freedom to do what she wants, wither she sucks at it or not. Simply put, higher a person, male or female, based on how well they can fill the requirements, and nothing more or less than that.
So instead of imagined sex and virtual reality where people can fulfill their desires without actually harming someone else, these feminists want to ban porn so that desperate people have to go out and rape someone?
damn these moral faggots! RAWR
Rape porn is retarded, and shows how pathetic Japanese men are, and how pathetic their women are for putting up with it.
You realize that even some women enjoy roleplaying this correct?
That's the major flaw of feminists. Deep down, as a majority, women want to be controlled and be the follower, not the leader.
.. as its called in nature Aplha Male... in the nameing.. xD
Oh look, more responses to feminism when it is in the wrong, with misogyny and patriarchy.
I'll disagree with feminism when I believe it steps boundaries of the personal values I hold. But I'm not going to agree with the support of Patriarchy.
I believe in gender equality, not patriarchy, but I cannot support the illegalization of rape pornography altogether. Even if I find that raping women is all too common of a theme in hentai. Because it goes against my Libertarian, anti-authoritarian values.
I prefer to spread my personal values socially. Not make law.
No, it is not retarded, it depends on the piece itself. It does not show patheticness of anyone who watches and/or enjoys it.
International Observatoryon the paedophilia and child pornography
http://www.telefonoarcobaleno.org/en/pdf/report_sep_2008_en.pdf
Wow, are these statistics real? I thought Japan had by far the most child pornography.
haha gogo Canada! j/k ^.-
So one of the countries with the highest rate of sexual assaults is trying to teach one of the countries with the lowest rate of sexual assaults how to lower sexual assaults
There should really need to be a large discussion between 2D people and 3D people themselves...Why can't the 2D tell their opinion about 3D!
you wanna know the truth?
just because those fat, ass-ugly feminist don't get their share of dick, they now forbid men to WANT to fuck the good looking chicks.
human rights activists ... what the hell? virtual people aren't human. if so, why may i delete my account in any virtual reality game?
I AM A MURDERER for deleting data pretending to be human..........bull-fucking-shit
The number of rape cases recorded in 2000 (or 1999) among G8 nations:
(per 100,000)
Canada 78.08
USA 32.05
Britain 16.23
France 14.36
Germany 9.12
Russia 4.78
Italy 4.05
Japan 1.78
I would like to believe this but I hava to ask a SOURCE!!!!!!
The source from United Nations Office on Drug and Crime.
http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/seventh_survey/7sc.pdf
Hope this would help you
How the FUCK are Germany and Netherlands so high up?? I thought they were very open towards sex and sexual products in the general media and public? Well, Netherlands I can kind of understand with their sex trafficking problem and their illegal prostitutes being basically a tourist attraction, lol... or I'm probably ill informed about that anyways.
whoops, that comment was supposed to be in reply to the anon that posted this:
"International Observatoryon the paedophilia and child pornography
[http://www.telefonoarcobaleno.org/en/pdf/report_sep_2008_en.pdf]http://www.telefonoarcobaleno.org/en/pdf/report_sep_2008_en.pdf"
Reading. Understanding the facts behind the numbers. Coming to educated conclusions. These are good things.
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUST17815620070515
Do a google and you'll find it's the same situation in Italy. "Feminists have taken over the world oh save my white middleclass ass" FUCK THAT SHIT COME ON AND LISTEN this isn't some secret that's hard to reach, it's not some twisted truth that's been made to give the women an "upper hand" or whatever. FEMINIST ISN'T JUST WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE, just because you CHOOSE to only see the extremists that makes you no better than the people who blame videogaming for murders. STOP BEING SO IGNORANT, this goddamn site is like an evening newspaper of shock stories/interest catering and holy shit look at you you're getting high on easy stories handpicked to trigger predictable triggers in you just so you'll KEEP ON CLICKING, returning and getting them their goddamn ad money. This isn't your friendly "for lawls" or "just another anime lover" blog this is awful journalism with a profit design, just like everywhere else.
But hey, women huh? THEY SURE HAVE IT SO GODDAMN FUCKING GOOD MAN BACK IN THE OLD DAYS THEY WERE IN THEIR NATURAL, SUBJUGATED, DOMINATED AND WILLESS STATE WHERE THEY WASTE THEIR LIFE AWAY AND MAYBE IF THEY'RE LUCKY THEY WAKE UP WHEN THEY'RE 40 AND LEAVE THEIR MAN BECAUSE HE'S JUST THE SAME FOLLOWING THE NORM OH HEY WHAT'S THAT LOADS OF JAPANESE WOMEN ARE LEAVING THEIR HUSBAND IN THE MIDDLE-AGE WELL THAT'S FUCKING ODD BET THE JAPANESE MEN CAN'T HANDLE A WOMAN LALALALALALALA
But come now. Let's be FUCKING INTELLECTUAL. Let's BE SMUGLY REASONABLE. Let's make STRAWMEN ARGUMENTS. LET'S LIVE IN A FUCKING FANTASY WORLD WHERE WE SIT AROUND GOING 'CHIP CHAP CHANGE IS SO NICE ISN'T IT OH GODDAMN FUCKING FEMINISTS THOSE FUCKERS THEY'RE STEALING TOO MUCH OF THE CAKE THEY AIN'T GOT THE GAWD DAM RIGHT TO THAT LOOK I LOVE MY WOMAN BUT NO WAY I WOULDN'T LET HER HANDLE ANYTHING IMPORTANT HER PLACE IS IN THE KITCHEN WHAT THE HELL THAT'S ALL SHE EVER DONE I DOUBT SHE'S CAPABLE OF ANYTHING ELSE OH YES SOME MORE MILK PLEASE YES NOW HOW ABOUT WE ARGUE ABOUT THE "MOON LANDING" EVEN THOUGH IT WAS 50 FUCKING YEARS AGO AND IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER ANYMORE'
LET'S DO THAT; LET'S DO THAT, FORGETTING WE'RE NOT GETTING YOUNGER AND THINGS WON'T CHANGE UNLESS WE CHANGE TO THE INNERMOST GODDAMN CORE AND FORGET ALL THIS STUPID SHIT.
'Cause I don't ever want to be afraid and face all these things that come to me. Let's do that. LET'S DO THAT
The pills do nothing?
Goddamn, my ears actually hurt from reading that @_@
And if you're going to include an article that already shows signs of writing to provoke an emotional reaction, you probably want to provide actual statistics or something aside from your irritatingly, overbearingly insolent and nonsensical literary diarrhea.
tl:dr (since it seems like you can't bear to put up with a rational argument): Caps lock is NOT cruise control for righteousness, you hypocritical tard who follows another popular media that does make articles designed to bring out a person's emotions.
We need more people to bombard the feminists with arguments supported by facts and credible surveys -.-
Most adult games don't involve rape. Most of them you have to work to get the girl.
and they're often even full of a lot of romance and character
Feminists... everybody's problem.
Holy Generalizations, Batman!
Or menstruation...wtf am I gonna do with a boner?
"Dear Equality Now,
Go fuck yourselves.
Sincerely,
Miroku74."
************
if they'd get their heads out of their twats instead of yammering mindlessly, they'd see the numbers of rapes committed on women and children in their OWN part of the world is waaaaay higher than elsewhere.
Leave our HARMLESS 2D pastimes alone. ><
Go Equality! YOU CAN DO IT! :D ... :) ... :| ... :/
fuck off
LOL I love these types of groups, it's like an all female 4chan.
Remember what 4chan stands for.
These high-stepping bitches are an ANTI-4chan.
That's what I mean. If 4chan was run by woman this would basically be it.
- Delusional about their world wide relevance.
- Made up of idiots from everywhere.
- The bulk of the people are complete wankers with a few truly impressive/dangerous/motivated folks that do everything.
- Stand against issues as long as it really doesn't involve work or danger.
- Sometimes do something special but more often then not, their causes more or less end up as a failure (Tom Green anyone?)
- More or less just trolls.
- TITS or GTF...err
lol'd at the last one.
before they ban this
i think they should deal with arm dealing capitalism first
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_industry
seriosly, there are tons to ban and they had their eyes on anime >_>
Leave our eroge alone... T_T *snif*
" A free demo is available here."
Thanks bro!
Sheep that call rape are feminists.
Feminism has gone too far. It was 'born' to make women's lives equal to men's. But now it is trying to make women's lives better than males', probably even destroy men entirely. They started arresting people for saying "Good morning" to schoolgirls but men adapted and survived by playing eroge and fapping to anime. Now lolis are banned, they are gonna ban eroge, next, lemme guess is ecchi anime, then goes moe and we will have to watch ugly 3D porn or die. Despite the fact that 3D porn is same shit, they won't ban it 'cause it's ugly. This is worse than WW2.
How can eroge lead to rape? There are a lot of them with no violence towards females. This is shizzle like the Philippines' hentai ban - "We are putting ban on hentai, Japanese animated child porn." - too little of investigation done before taking action. All for the hatred to males. Most 3D women suck.
If I were to frame a comment, I would frame this one.
I concur *raises clenched fist*
Srsly worth framing.
SOME feminists have gone too far, imo.
Not all.
And I'd like to actually an article sometime speaking of some of the GOOD things from modern feminism.
Get this through your inferior female mind! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOOD FEMINISM. Your all about as useful as UNICEF. If you, yourself, are truly a good person, stop identifying yourself as a feminist.
Now, now, that's just as stupid a generalisation as "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NON-PAEDOPHILE OTAKU".
Plz frame this epic win.
Actually, many feminists are in favour of banning 3D pornography as well. But then, many would probably agree with Zardoz's teachings as well: "The gun is good. The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life to poison the Earth with a plague of men, as once it was, but the gun shoots death, and purifies the Earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth . . . and kill!"
they're just not trying to ban 3d porn right now because it doesn't seem as easy. Actually, I remember there was a large movement against playboy in the past but I forgot what happened with it, though it was short lived. So instead they go to another part of the world and try to go for something they think is easier.
Holy shit. I never thought I'd See someone quote that movie. That was a crazy but awesome movie too.
Up yours feminists. Whats next huh? Getting a shrink for everyone so we don't get preverted thoughts? Feed people with hormone control pills?
They should go back to the kitchen.
But housewives have the higher tendency of wanting a rich boyfriend/husband.
I'd rather they go back to the workforce instead of kitchen, kthx.
Men are more productive workers. If all women were to work, vastly less mandatory housework would be completed. Because of this, men, the superior workers, have to spend more time doing domestic tasks and less time working. Where is this going? Were still getting the same total number of hours worked by the entire workforce on average, however the efficiency of the workforce is lowered. Working the same hours with less results.
Now, none of that would be true if feminist truly desired to be treated like men. For example, by all means, you can work. But your going to be doing exactly the same amount of work on your period as your doing off it. I don't give a shit if you need to run to the store to pick up some tampons. Get to work, bitch.
Men can do housework, too. For example, you can go mop up that period blood of mine you won't let me plug up!
Now personally, I don't believe in stuff like that, but your bullshit works both ways, retard.
Males are more prone to be able to work a set type of jobs better than females and vice versa. It might as well be biologically proven given the initial upper/lower body strength potential in males and females as well as how females and their babies are better able to interact than males and their babies.
In before mpreg *shudders*
In my family, everyone helps out in the housework and everybody works, though not because we say we should be that way it just ended up that way. Basically, I think people should stop deciding for and controlling OTHER people and just watch out for themselves without taking other people's freedom and happiness away. It's only when other people's freedom DIRECTLY effects you or others you literally care for the well being of that you should start to enter negotiation mode.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, the Japanese government ban H-games that's a laugh. It's like telling the British government to ban Telemarketers or the Americans to stop making sequels/prequels/bookmoviegame for everything. It's absurd.
Not only that but what next? Ban people having sexual fantasies for things? Clamp down on sex altogether and make it only for reproductions sake?
Dangerous Big-brother-esque thoughts there. I hope these people don't think they can ban our right to fap to whatever we want to as long as it's not real.
no,, it's like telling the Americans to stop eating chizburgrz
I fukken luv cheeseburgers.
Can I has...? Yeah it's Saturday.
Like telling Americans to stop gaining weight I would say.
Burn themselves to death ugly bitches.
ALL HAIL TO JAPAN \(^o^)/ BANZAI, BANZAI, BANZAI
>The publisher of Rapelay tells the interfering group to mind their own business
3D pig status: Told
Wow, they're being narrow-minded here.. And it's kinda obvious that they dislike otaku~
"The publisher of Rapelay tells the interfering group to mind their own business in no uncertain terms: “This product is intended for domestic distribution and was approved by Japanese regulators. We won’t accept this sort of criticism from overseas groups.”"
Well stated. Between the media companies pressuring Canada to pass DMCA-like regulations and now this crap, I'm getting sick of people from my own country trying to tell the rest of the world what to do.
"Canadain guy sits way far in the back with a gun point at his head" i so love canada we alway sit back and do nothing unless there a gun pointed at us :P~
Sigh, ban sex games, ban violent games, ban violent programs, ban criticism of islam,ect.
Its clear that ppl fail to see the root of the problem, its not about promotion, its about interest, ppl are interested in these topics/themes, i read somewhere that feminists even want to ban porn, but instead of looking down at us men, for liking porn, why not criticize those women whom perform these acts? Its a double standard feminism has.
Also if we are to think about promoting actitudes, lets ban the news, something that most probably everyone watches, the lvl of detail that the news gives when someone was raped, or murdered ( hell they even make a macromedia flash simulation of it, when its a school shooting) it more then enough to get the average persons brain working so that he may imagine what happen, how that person penetrated the women as she screamed to stop, its pure hypocrisy, lets attack the game, but not the news!
Its ok for the news to show women raped, but its not ok to she 2d women get raped, in a fictional world.
These things enrage me enormously, BASICALLY feminists are all ugly lesbian bitches that since they cant get penis, they whine like the bitches they are, the cure for feminism is cock in vagina , so that they can STFU. They want equality, them women just like men must have compulsory military training.
Also, WHAT ABOUT MODELS and these singers who are sex idols? dont they promote that men look at women as just a walking piece of meat to penetrate?
Soo much contradictions for feminism, i demand DDoS feminists site, not because they want equality because thats good, but for the contradictions and general stupidity and extremism that sometimes compared with islam extremism is basically the same.
FUCK FEMINISM , VIVA HENTAI AND LOLICON!
Nah, just suck n' fuck authoritarianism wherever you find it.
There's too much stereotyping of all feminism as the same. Feminism is quite a diverse ideology.
Though that thing I about them "not being able to get penis/laid" is amusing and awesome no matter whether I agree to your anti-feminist tirade or not.
Going around insulting men as "unable to get laid" is way overdone towards males, and way underdone towards females.
Just t'let you know you're not standing solo, I've enjoyed your comments here. Well worked, Ukonkivi, well worked.
Aye! great deductions with well pointed views.I know we people will ever see eye to but u do have my vote! ^.- gave me a call anytime your free >:P~
eye to eye* ><;
I don't really agree that ponos in vagoo will solve everything, but I do agree about the interest and censorship not addressing the problem.
that will ban non-hentai too. there is violence agents women in non-hentai anime and mangas. and what about men getting raped I see that in ani/manga or are men sub-human.
“works to end violence and discrimination against women and girls around the world through the mobilization of public pressure,”
Could we pressure them to give-up?
and what kind of satisfaction will they get if they succeed?
"mobilise its global membership of some 30,000 " , how many otakus are there in Japan?
BLASPHEMY!
Games lead to violence=>ban
Action movies lead to violence=>ban
now what? Eroge? Srsly! Nothing leads to it. How violent I am depends on how my parents brought(issat the right word? My english sucks) me. Using violence against kids to punish them-thats the source. Not even single time my parents smacked me, instead they left me without sweets, TV, games and even books. Now i can't even think about lifting a finger against a girl. It disgusts me. I'm a big guy (188cm and 110kg) so I kinda afraid I'll kill a girl if I even use a little strength against those fragile bodies. :/
Well, whatever. Not that Japan will ever ban those things... Loli-maybe,but unlikely.
P.s. Ban bukkake, while u'r at it. Girls can drown in there. It's violence!
I got beat when I was a kid (plenty). 183cm 87kg (athletic build) I still wouldn't think of doing anything bad to anybody innocent (feminists can go burn in hell).
And the right phrase is "brought me up".
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Still, I think that violence against children goes last.
Can't speak for everyone but I'm sure am glade that my parents had the balls to beat me when I went out of the line. Otherwise I can be certain that I'd turn out to be an asshole.
Yeah, same here. I was a stupid kid, always doing such dangerous things, and being mean to others. My parents would hit me almost every day (Justified hitting, of course. They were not abusive.) and would also forbid me from watching TV. The worst thing they did was take away my Nintendo (NES) and wouldn't give it back for MONTHS. I'm sure without any of that disciplinary action, I would be a horrible person today, and would probably be doing a lot of stupid things that would most likely get me killed.
I'm a good person, and I would never hurt anyone. Oh, did I mention I'm a big fan of violent games and eroge?
Maybe the problem today is that many kids aren't getting the kind of tough love we got growing up from our parents? just a thought here.
Seems like ever since people started getting their noses involved in other parent's responsibility to discipline their children that a lot went out the window, including common sense.
I know if I had ever even THOUGHT of calling my mother a bitch, she'd smack the taste out of my mouth..... by reflex without understanding why. It was creepy. She always knew when I was up to no good. :D
So.... I turned into a hikkikomori/NEET/(*maybe*otaku late in life, but I'd be a worse person had either of my parents not taken the time to dish out the occasional bit of corporeal punishment.
Aside from Child Advocate groups who meddled in things like this..... at times it was necessary, for children who ARE being abused.... but they've taken it too far. As in THIS and any other case where they try to get something banned which they have a problem with it.
my parents gave me a mix of beating and teaching. I don't think it should matter how parents go about it as long as they just DO go about it. Many parents don't watch their kids at all, or watch what they do, let alone explain anything to them or prevent them from doing things. Many kids don't even get love from their parents, let alone teaching and raising. The people who say media makes kids do bad things aren't looking hard or deep enough to make any difference worth mentioning, or maybe they're one of those lousy parents themselves. A parent that lets their kids see boobs and blood and explains it to them is better than a parent that shows it to them and doesn't say shit, or maybe even better than those that don't show them anything at all.
lets ban penises and vaginas
That's simply not enough, people kiss violently, or toss salad. We should ban the mouth and anus. All orifices, really, and also shapes.
Best comment ever.
ban people
2D women are serious business? Damn you feminist get yourself some 2D men and stop disturbing us...
Seriously just one thing:
LOL!
Feminist and from America. The worst possible combination.
The witches are conspiring, sirs. May we burn them?
They all come from the church.. Were fuck if they found me and my friends which the stuff we have. I think I'm going hide my stuff now. Those ugly big 3D pigs.. ;-;
Don't worry, we can stand strong if band together. :)
I'm in for that! Where my pitchfork?
3rd
Well lets bun everything, cuz everything is heart somebody! And we must also ban the banning itself.
Now THAT's a good idea.
Why don't WE form am organization intent on banning bans?
love the last comment there
"With violence towards women and girls far less common in Japan than in the USA or Europe, it would appear it is they who should be following the example of Japan…"
besides, IF someone had the urge to enslave a mother and her daugther, woudlnt it be better to do it in a game?
I believe it goes the other way, not playing the game then wanting to do the real thing, but wanting to do the real thing then satisfy with the game.
Okay so rape is okay aslong as its virtual?
Im one perverted fucker but i can atleast understand that disntinction. Irrespective of if you believe this group is retarded your should atleast understand them because of that point.
Yes, Ms. UNICEF. Why don't you stop wasting energy and go help some real women.
imagine for a second that all people who raped and killed woman and girls in the past instead had a computer with a program that let them satisfy their lust on people that don't exist.
But then even that wouldn't be enough to stop it because some people do these crimes for reasons beyond sexual satisfaction. No matter what, you can't completely control the world. You can't stop rape, just significantly reduce it. If you honestly believe that less rapes would occur on real people if people were banned from having the choice to do it to fake, 3D people, then you need to do your research harder.
Free demo link was a nice touch.
Only one thing left to say to them ;
SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN.
Your a retard.
Seems like MikeeUSA has been exorcised for good. Almost expect him to be at articles like these...
http://www.equalitynow.org/english/actions/action_3301_en.html
somebody raid this fucking piece of shit site
Yep, I'll email Illusion to tell them great work, and to keep ignoring these retards.
But, see, he was right!!! Destroy the feminist or we are doomed!!!
Your wish was granted.
Mikee, we missed you!
Pun intended,
Fuck You!
Making anything freedom of speech illegal is fascist and un freedom loving.
But I do wish there was less hentai about raping women.
I mean, could it hurt to put a smile on their face from time to time instead of tears?
It's cool, they always start smiling like lunatics once you rape them enough time in most of these rape themed games.
So play Wanko to Kurasu or something, there are plenty of happy hentais.
Ugh. I'd like to see an article show the positive sides of feminism sometime. Not just the bad.:/
Believe me, there are positive sides of feminism.
no one cares about the positives of feminism, do you know why?
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CONCERN US!
Actually, I believe every form of discrimination against women has it's own double edge backlash against men as well.
No, not anymore.
No, there are no positive sides
So why don't they put all that energy into making a game where you rape some male characters?
That equals thing out as well doesn't it? I'm all for equal rights, so gogo you feminist bunch.. Suprise us and create yer own damn eroge.
Would you be willing to make a contract with me?
OK, these extremist whales wants equality. So they will demand that men should be poked with something just like women did...I am not sure if this sounds pleasant...
Well this one doesn't sound pleasant to then we're all on equal footing and can move on to the next topic.
*to them, then we're all.. etc
I'm basically with CC.
GIMME MOAR FEMDOM.
There probably are some, actually, there's enough yaoi fans out there.
One popular game is actually where you're a male protagonist who gets turned into a girl and has sex with men.
Mm. I support this feminist motion in making a game of raping males.
Mankinds never satisfy themselves with anything so even if such a thing like "ban all adult anime/games/manga" would go through, they would always find something else to complain about because that's how humanity works. We always want to achieve something more then what we already can.
But everyone knows that you can't stop these things because then internet would't exist.
So.... they played it?
Lol!!! Now that's what I call a good review of the game.
Played it and fap to it like a dozen times, but their review totally beats my summary of the game.
A US-based international feminist “human rights” group, Equality Now?
They should try their luck on Obama first before trying My Hero Taro Aso!
Sorry, he's holding the other end of the leash.
What's so great about Taro Aso?
...*shrug* people shouldn't stick their noses where they don't belong. In all honesty, this kinda crap isn't gonna make men systematically start raping women. The only reason why men do this is because they have a power issue, that is they want to be a dominant one in power, or they just can't get any and are too stupid to bother to think why.
Banning adult games isn't gonna change anything, all it's really gonna do is make people try harder to find adult games, forbidden fruit type of thing.
And this is why I really don't respect feminists. Srsly. GTFO of my territory! RAWR!
I for one am happy not to have the heavy desire to be a dominant sex partner.
it's an issue that's developed through ones own personal problems, not something gained through playing games.
Equality Now...get back in the kitchen
The get back to the kitchen jokes are especially unfunny in contexts like this.
What? Feminists are always in season.
Too bad we can't legally shoot them in cases like these. :3
That is, IF they're in season.
Their coming for our eroge. Reduce their numbers.
If you actually read the article they are not trying to ban "sex ganes" they want people to write the people who distribute the game "Rapeplay" and ask them not to sell games that show women and girls being raped. That isn't censorship, it's putting pressure on the companies and I much prefer that route than others they might take.
I can't believe people actually enjoy that sort of thing. But there are worse things coming out of Japan than that; some marketed to young girls.
(There are other things that are even worse but I'm not even going to mention them.)
I remember watching "Papa to Kiss in the Dark" because it was labeled "Shojo" and I thought since it was meant for young girls that meant it was pg....WRONG. A father molests his son repeatedly and this is supposed to be good fun for young girls to watch? What are they putting in their wasabi sauce?
THANK you.
Very misleading title btw.
'I can’t believe people actually enjoy that sort of thing.'
I bet you also 'can't believe' people cook cute little puppies and kitties for their midnight snacks, yea?
"That isn’t censorship."
Ahahaha oh wow. You just made my day.
Now, about that sandwich...
Kitty sandwich?
I'll supply the meat. ;3
This is called "selective censorship". Why only target eroge? If you indeed preach equality, you should target all media and venues equally. Ban all movies, books, musics, paintings, sculptures, dances...every form of human entertainments that makes reference to rapes and sexual assaults, which I am sure there are plenty(As an art history student I can already come up with a long list of examples just from artworks). Just because this one eroge made the headline, they decided to go after it. I think they are just a bunch of attention hordes.
Read a little closer, petitioning the makers is only part of it. They also advocate harassing Amazon, and trying to get the government to outlaw it.
There are some people who do enjoy it, though, and such media can be made to keep their hunger at bay. Take away their toys and they'll find NEW ONES, get what I mean? It's unfortunate you had to see that, though. It's too bad there's so much mislabeling like that on the internet especially when the content can get especially gruesome due to guro, BDSM, and rape fetishes. That video should have been not only labeled as shojo but also incest, rape, etc. Such things have happened to me too as a kid and I've had to see rape anime that I didn't want to, and they disturbed me, but maybe it's better I saw them to be more aware.
Could they just mind their own buisness ?
"It usually concerns itself with “discrimination against women”, legalising abortion, reducing domestic violence and female genital mutilation; pressuring sovereign states into curbing freedom of expression appears to be a new sideline."
You make it sound like countries outlawing domestic violence and female genital mutilation is a bad thing.
wtf sure its all goood and graet that they wanna `help the rights of women but theyre going way to fuckin far wit this crap .stupid cunts!! theyre mad just cause theyre pussies have cobwebbs inside also there are women in usa who read that boy on boy shit . japan is a pervy place so shut the fuck up stupid feminist and get over it...................................also i love cake!!!!
Ummm no..no...no and no.
Sexualized fiction is a release from pent up feelings, if you are strange enough to want it(the fiction) its not going to make you a rapist. If you are stuck or damaged emotionally its not going to matter what you consume you are going to seep in your mentalities or get over yourself.
Its like saying games or films are bad because they frustrate and excite you, well holly fck if being alive is bad then we need more dead people....
By the end of the day sexualized fiction is no worse than anythign else huamns consume,jack off to or enjoy.
Also modern Feminism like modern "ethnic" groups had a place in society 50 years ago now adays they want concision's and tributes be made to their niche regardless of logic or reason...
Excellent, EXCELLENT comment, and I've read through pretty much all of them here. If being alive is bad then we need more dead people, brilliant. Artists and creators of things like manga out there give us windows into what the mind is capable of, the extent it can go to, the brightest lights and the darkest of darks, to make us more aware, smart, open minded, and and full of perspectives, to make our own decisions about who we are and what we think and what we like and dislike, to show us the world and make up our own minds about it. Then people like these come up for whatever reason and ban them from people.
Yeah, I can see how a bunch of women from another country sending threatening letters and emails not even in Japanese will cripple the eroge developers into submission. Much like how I can see fishing in the Sahara will net you some nice catches.
Sigh... Why impose your views on others? This is some thing that really gets me upset...
Previously, I wrote a short writeup on Lolicon which can be seen here: http://actar.wordpress.com/2008/11/30/age-look-and-loli/
I really hope that their actions doesn't change anything.
I have a better idea.
Lets go against japans censorship(everything must be uncensored) and they should send more games translated out of their country.
I demand that right as a man.
I'm all for that! Count me in.
instead of trying to stop crap like this why dont they put their energy into more serious matters
Damn you. Why ban them if there is bothing wrong with them. I still have to play one before i died.
So stupid. While some games like Virgin Roster kind of disgust me, I still think people should be given the choice to purchase whatever they want if it's fiction. What would fans of guro and other "weird" fetishes do if they didn't have anywhere to take out there urges?
I even know some feminists that play rape eroge lol.
Oh are you fucking serious.
This is why I hate feminist groups.
I've played it. It has great graphics and it was fun, and this is a girl talking. I'm still not wanting to rape any man or woman I stumble upon though.
Some people should just understand that fantasy and reality are two different things, and that any sane person would not act upon his/her fantasies on the real world to begin with.
I'm ashamed to share the same sex genre with these crazy group. I love a part of feminism because it's what gave us the right to vote and have equal opportunities, but this women... just... GOD.
"Some people should just understand that fantasy and reality are two different things, and that any sane person would not act upon his/her fantasies on the real world to begin with."
Ditto, ditto.
I'm not ashamed of my gender, personally, and I shouldn't have to feel so because of anyone else's actions.
"All feminists are ultra-lesbian man haters out to rip away any sense of freedom for anyone with a cock'n balls in their obsessive penis-envy," is as fallacious as "All otaku and/or hikkikomori are fat, unbathed, sweat-drenchedly rank, perverted paedophiles," or "All men are vagina-craving dicks with adrenaline and bodies, rapists waiting to happen," or "All Christians are gay-hating/murdering bible-smashers that molest choirboys," or "All Japanese teachers are paed--" okay, maybe not the best example, that last one.
The point stands. Anyone prepared to lambast all feminists for being like this deluded group had better be prepared to stand up and be counted among the rapists and abusers these people think these games make people into. Because you can't just selectively judge groups by their lowest common denominators, it's all or none.
Fuck sweeping stereotypes.
CS deserves an award for this post.
It deserves to be framed and put on wall.
Sadly the people who annoy the hell of the world the most are the small groups that give bad reputations to the whole, so they look bigger than they are.
More than once I've been branded with the worst shit of feminism and lesbianism just because I support gay rights and think men and women should do whatever they want as long as there's an understanding, female/male stereotypes be damned.
So I'm still ashamed of having a bunch of morons giving the wrong idea (no matter what it is), because you know that's the idea people will pick up.
Short answer that someone really needs to give them, and UNICEF, and some politicians:
Because lolicon and games DOES NOT LEAD TO RAPE AND CHILD ABUSE YOU FUCKTARDS
One word : LOL. Good attempt to promote their group, nothing else.
That's three words though... >_> remember? REMEMBER? THREE WORDS! It used to be THREE words! Which words were they, though...?
OH FUCK ITS HAPPENING D:
“This product is intended for domestic distribution and was approved by Japanese regulators. We won’t accept this sort of criticism from overseas groups.”
...Mkay? What else do you want? You don't even live there for crying out loud.
X-rated FTW~
Feminist Group wants to ban H Game ?
well...their wish,at least the rest of otaku in Japan never accept that fact
and we already know " otaku power " when they get serious!
No kidding,but H Game will never banned...wwwwwwww...and feminist group act so high and mighty,like they are a US Government themself...
I see another same failure clone of "petition to George W. Bush to ban j-animes " parody.
lol wut? Must've been on pg. 10 on NY Times.
For the sake of God, just give them some femdom hentai games to see if they'lll talk about sexual harassment of women again.
bitches need to go back to the kitchen and make some pancakes
3D bitches got upset men prefer perfection over them.
They target Japan because they would face backlash at home. Lets see them try anything in the US.
This the First Amendment, bitches. Here is the Second Amendment to back it up.
Nope. The USA is one of the most pro-women's rights cuntries on the planet, it also exports this to all countries it conqures or has influence over.
Today in the world there are few countries that are infavor of Men's Liberty (none really). You can that the USA, western europe, and women's rights advocates for that.
Women's rights advocates should be killed.
This will never happen.
Men will never have what Men wish to have,
nor will Men ever have liberty.
Death To women's Rights.
Viva Men's Liberty.
Your right on some points. Just look at commercials and marketing in America. Men are always portrayed as complete idiots and as a burden that women have to baby. especially white males.
That's an image I try to keep out of my head. I would look horrendous in an adult diaper. ><
you can't ask for liberty and freedom if you can't be willing to give any. by yelling death to women, you are saying you want to take their right to live away. fucking biased hypocrite. and I'm a guy, btw. You're no better than a radical feminist, in fact you're worse.
I'm a girl and I don't agree with this -_-
You're infavor of Men being jailed for having young women of childbearing age as wives (usually females gain the ability to have children at age 12, 13, or 14: this is when they were married off throughout history... untill modern pro-women's rights democracy came around).
You're also infavor of Men being jailed for domestic violence (so thusly he has no power at home).
You're also infavor of females being able to divorce Men at will (ditto).
If anyone dislikes women's rights, they should work to destroy women's democracy. Have a Men's republic instead perhaps.
She's saying she's against the banning, NOT for it. Try reading her post a little more closely.
Yeah thats what I meant, I wasn't too clear on that ^_^'
don't worry, just pay no attention to mikee in the future. even if he does end up saying some true things, there's just no point wasting time reading his posts. they always end saying "death to women" at the end, which totally invalidates him.
"Death to Women"?
Sounds like he's a necrophiliac, the way you make it out to be. Because I don't see him getting any any other way.
Oh lookie who's returned.:x
That's pretty haughty of some US women getting pissed over something halfway across the world.
Women love to bitch.
Women demands "equal rights" while promoting traditional values such as "man always pays for a date" that benefit them.
Women are lying bitches and hoes.
I'd bet that its made up of Jewish mothers, fucking bitch-ass kikes.
Women love it when Men are jailed or killed for having a wife that is "too young" (young females of childbearing age (under 18) are a threat to the secondary market).
If Men wish to be free from women's rights they will have to kill all those that advocate or enforce such rights.
Ohhhhhh Vandread~
You know the real reason? They're jealous.
Go and crawl back under your rock at Stormfront.
It's reasons like this that I moved out of the U.S.S.A. and thank god I'm out. The general mindset is just so anti-male.
You lucky bastard. Guess I'm screwed for a few more years.
fck them no way
if there ban 2D we need raep all time 3D so dont ban
As a woman, let me say not only should porn games be free, but there should be more of them. The end.
I almost want to heartily agree with this--But they clash! If the people making porn games don't get money they either can't eat (a quick track to dead makers, and those don't make many games!) or they have to enlist in other places for money to eat which is less time on games?!
*boggles*
just 30k membership just have a few ppl go to akiba for a few days and you get a hell lot more then they can ever hope to get in there live time.telling them to fuck off and kill them self,also to make more of them and change japan dumb censorship law.
Kill women's rights activists, cleanse the world of feminism.
Death To women's Rights.
Viva Men's Liberty.
I believe there's far more people right now that want to kill anyone named MikeeUSA
I'll give it a shot and just say ignore him.
Troll food is expe3nsive anyway.
what is with all this women’s rights stuff after you get marry and they divorce you who the one who keep the house car kids so on? even if it the guy who owns all of it. t
That's more to do with stupid marriage laws and guys too pussy to get a prenub.
Yes, and I'm sure someday that all the pacifists will come and say, "Hey, why not ban all games that promote violence and killing?"
They already do this, it's two faces of the same coin, they just approach sex and violence independantly.
It's just like, when the KKK goes after the blacks and jews, they try to do it separately, they don't want them to find out about a mutual enemy and hook up.
If they truly wanted equality they should have gone to Russia and joined with a group of domineering women to create a game where you're a woman (with customizable features and outfits, because from my experience many girls love that part of games if they have them, like various fighters do) and you can enslave customizable boys and men to be your sexual toys. Even judo-chop robbers and tie them in a basement setting to do SM things on them. Hell, i'd even play that, if you could make the woman really hot.
Since the feminist group didn't think of it, the rapelay people should make it and say "hah!".
human rights activists > feminist
caring for everyone is better than caring for a single group.
We need more loli's rights activist and big breasted woman's rights activists.
SCREW THIS! Just because there's "violence" in sex doesn't mean people have to emulate them! Also, there's a LOT of women out there with a masochist fetish! Finally, WHAT THE HELL AM I GONNA FAP TO NOW HUH?!?!?
doesn't it feel weird? they want to ban "hentai" and "lolicon" but lets shotacon roam free? damn feminists.
Lol, you got a good point there :)
I see no implication that Shotacon will roam free.
Basically there's no implication that it won't, they ignore it, because they don't give a shit about males.
the first mistake the US made was letting women vote, it was all down hill from there
ATTENTION FELLOW US CITIZENS:
I am afraid there is a tsunami in the horizon. Those extremist whales are gonna present their case to some dumb senator who feeds on taxpayers' money. Then the "lawmakers" are gonna pass some stupid bill to ban eroge on US soil, just like what they did to booze in Prohibition Era. This might be a good time to stock up on eroges.
I'll be damned if that happens. Quick, we must get all dumb congressmen out NAO! Oh wait, then we wouldn't have a Congress (lol). An even better reason to get rid of them. We get to keep out eroge and get a smarter circuit of Congress.
lol I ranted about this same topic a while ago... sigh, men just don't understand.
This reminds me of that song, "Women are only good for three things cooking, cleaning.........and vagina".
WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY FUCKING TALK ABOUT BANNING ANIME AND MANGA. ANIME AND MANGA ARE MY LIFE SUPPORT AND THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE IT AWAY? THAT IS PURE BULLSHIT. I LOVE ANIME AND MANGA FOREVER. WHAT RIGHT DO THEY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE ERO GAMES. U.S. PRODUCES PORN TOO AND HOW THE FUCK IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM ANIME. TO BE EXACT, IT IS EVEN WORSE THAN ANIME. U.S.PRON HAVE 2-3 GUYS STICKING THEIR YOU KNOW WHAT INSIDE OF A TEEN. WORSE THAT, ALL OF THEM PUSH IT IN A SINGLE HOLE. CAN YOU SAY THAT ANIME IS EVEN WORSE. ALSO, ERO GAMES DOES NOT HAVE THE EXACT SAME LOOK AS A REAL GIRL'S PRIVATE SO THEY SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. THERE IS A REASON WHY THERE IS A WARNING SIGN FOR MINOR TO NOT WATCH IT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, SHUT YOUR TRAP AND LEAVE. IF YOU PLAY IT OR SEE IT, THEN IT IS YOUR FAULT FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO IT. MOST OF ALL, THE U.S. PRODUCE MOST OF THE TRASH IN THE WORLD. THEY MAKE THE MOST WASTE AND POLLUTION. WHAT IF THE JAPANESE TELLS THE U.S. TO STOP ALL THAT, DO YOU THINK THAT THEY CAN DO IT? NO, I BET YOU ANYTHING. MOST OF ALL, IT IS NOT LIKE THE JAPANESE IFS FORCING THE AMERICAN TO BUY THEIR PRODUCTS, IT IS THE AMERICAN'S FAULT FOR BUYING IT. SO THERE SHOULDN'T OF WROTE THIS BULLSHIT LETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please..enough with the cruise control @_@ it makes my auditory system bleed
THIS BAN IS THE MOST STUPID SHIT I EVER HEARD IN MY WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE. AMERICAN'S FORCING THE JAPANESE TO STOP THEIR MOST PROSPEROUS SALES. HOW WILL THE AMERICAN LIKE IT IF THE JAPANESE SHUT THE AMERICAN BACK WITH THE SAME. HOW WILL THAT FEEL IF YOU THINK IT LIKE THAT?
Half those feminist are lesbians wishing they had dicks...
Lesbians do not wish they had dicks. You don't seem to understand what a lesbian is. This myth of a woman turning to sex with other women being unable to get a man is stupid. You firstly would not call that a lesbian, it would be a heterosexual bisexual having a circumstantial relationship.
Furthermore, there's no shortage of ugly desperate men, they will always be easier to land than a woman, even a really ugly one, so it's a silly myth.
feminists are just like many other groups of people in the world who are confused, biased, and feel they should fight for a cause they don't fully understand.
wait banning adult games would also mean banning adult yaoi/yuri games.... /me ponders the thought....
uhhh then yes all comes to a conclusion that the world must ban sex there in, inturn leads to global decline of human population which inturn defeats such purpose of having human desire for sex..... sooo uhh.... wheres the homosexual stand in here supposed this could be the case or with anyone pertaining to the fetishes themselves even
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT!?!?!?! These god damn feminist should go get ran over by a Semi with 3 trailors attached , then crashed into by an airplane
I wish these fucking hoes die a very very gruesome and bloody death....if they ban anything ILL FUCKING KILL THEM!
Ogods, this article has spawned several pages of comments. Good game.
And you don't see men complaining about the BL games.
We should send them some man rape games. They call that femdom or something.
Okay, time for a seriously long, thought out girl's eye view on this.
I'm not a feminist. I don't believe one gender is superior to the other, just as I don't believe one religion or race or sexuality or anything is superior to the others. I believe all things should be treated equal and no more than that. Give everyone and everything a chance to experience both the wonders and horrors of life.
I do not agree at all with what these women are doing, either. If it was real life rape and such, yes, I would be against it, but I would be against guys raping women, women raping guys, gays raping each other, and straights/gays raping the opposite sexuality. NOBODY should have to experience the horror of rape.
But this is fiction. A fucking videya gaem. Nothing is being hurt, except for maybe pixels, and you don't see any pixel rights groups out there, which is because they're not fucking real and nobody is getting hurt at all. You play it, you jack off, everybody wins.
If you don't like the content, nobody is forcing you to play it. Same with any book or show or any form of media; if it's not real, then there's no reason to raise a fuss about it. You don't have to enjoy it. You don't even have to breathe near it.
Not everybody agrees on everything and likes everything, but if you don't like it, don't take it from others. America has stuff like freedom of speech for many reasons, this being one of them. If I don't like something, I'm not going to pry it out of the hands of anyone who does. I encourage everyone to love the shit out of what they do, even if it rubs me the wrong way.
These women are just moralfags, plain and simple, giving women like me a bad name. Being gay and a woman I honestly cannot see what they're talking about and wish they'd stop, but they're not going to. They're the anti-fun establishment.
The classic feminist just wanted equal rights; now she's twisted into this feminazi I can no longer agree with. It's a shame that not everyone can just agree that people are cool no matter what their background, story, gender, whatever is, but that's human nature. We'll never be completely rid of them, as nice as it would be to have that.
At least I can direct my attention and energy to things that actually matter.
Everyone should go and play a porny game right now and enjoy themselves to counter this and feel better.
I love these periods of sanity you bring to the articles. Thanks for the other half's point of view, hun. <3
You're welcome! And thank you for taking the time to read it and not just dismiss it as tl;dr or get back to kitchen, etc. Makes it worth the time it took to type out.
This is true. Nobel Prize-worthy.
took the words out of my keyboard, good job, woman.
i dont understand why they have to pry and fight to eradicate... a porn game. Being a country that puts out real porn with gang-bang themes, if there's anyone they want be a hypocrite against, it should first be their media.
I think I am in love or something, shit.
good comment, but these guys... lol. Hey everyone! listen to the lesbian woman! *o* c'mon guys, we're all equally special here :D
So true on so many levels. Love your post, Atma.
*throws many accolades*
*breaks a window*
*flees*
(I know this is too late but oh well...)
Atma, I hope you don't mind if I take a reference out of your words. You state the ideas I believe in with startling accuracy in a way I couldn't dream of doing.
It's a conspiracy I tell ya, because Japan is making all the money on adult games and the people in the us who put the feminists in this crazy position is sticking them out like a sore dildo that japanese companies are profiting from the global recession because of Otaku
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SAUCE ON PIC?????
I am sure the next wave of such games would offer us a juicy raep of some feminist b..s.
Rallies for banning fiction again huh? HA.
Minds like these wont go away until they build the Orwellian kingdom they're ultimately after.
As puerile as they are intellectually, their acts are frequently motivated by a desire to protect the ones they love.
And as misplaced as it is, that motivation is practically unstoppable, and makes up the core of the most resilient type of fanatical mentality.
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This wacky femi-Nazi group (as opposed to real feminists, which obviously these loons are not), UNICEF, the creeping excessive power granted to the UN, the people behind these elements will continue gaining control and breeding faster than they know how to think.
Such is human weakness towards irrational beliefs and actions.
It's moments like these that I'm reminded of why the healthiest thing a person can do for intellectual progress is create artificial intelligences greater than their own limits.
Make them. Make them incapable of the militaristic prejudiced tendencies depicted in news articles like these. Make them able to breed faster than any slow thinking politically motivated control-infatuated zealot could ever hope to contend with.
It's unfortunate that there exists no other effective solution against human kind's inevitable desire to force their beliefs on their neighbors regardless of the costs.
They're just a bunch of people who've failed at their sex lives - or maybe don't even have one at all. Heck they may not have yet experienced masturbation in their whole pathetic lives.
This "equality" thing that we speak of: I believe it refers only to the fundamental equality. Equal access to resources, equal chances to opportunities, equal rights and privileges, etc. A woman can become president of the United States, should she apply for candidacy and win the election. But that doesn't necessarily mean that men have to start pissing sitting down, nor do women have to do it while standing up.
I believe that everything has their own roles to play. These adult games exist to satisfy the desires of those who want it. In the same manner, men and women, though both equal, have their own roles to play. The current feminist movement exists to add more conflict to the world. And no matter what they say, men can never conceive a child (through natural means, of course)
see what happens when you let women vote.
I think the more legitimate feminist groups should get off their ass and protest moralfaggotry like this Equality Now group.
Also, nobody abbreviate them as EN, since this belongs to Exploitation Now, a cool webcomic, who deserve it.
Of course, we know they won't, because they're pussies.
Why cant women accept porn?
Because they refuses to accept the fact that they belong to us.
After all~
Genesis : God causes the man to sleep, and makes a woman from one of his ribs, and the man awakes and names his companion Woman, "because she was taken out of Man."
Well, they do belong to us...
Except we're not all Christians, making us exempt from this~
Hell, I'm an atheist christian, so I don't follow stuff in the bible like 'god said' BS.
An atheist christian? So you follow Jesus's teachings while asserting that there is no such thing as the divine? How do you reconcile the many contradictions there?
I was raised Catholic, but I follow my own moral pole star now.
There's nothing wrong with God.... it's the rest of His/Her 'Good Children' who give me a fucking migraine when they pull shit like this. ><
I don't label myself anything, other than anonymous, as it lets me have a lot more freedom than subscribe to one that has a set list of rules and regulations.
Or you could say I'm 1 part budhist, 1 part athiest, 1 part humanist, 1 part confucist, 1 part tarmic, 1 part ...ah, you get the point. Just call me anon.
Sounds like a nice mixed drink right thar. :3
I despise rape and loli games but if this feminist group succeeds in this action, other adult games will follow suit.
This is one of the things I hate about the pro-this and that groups of the USA.
Wow, despise, really? I can understand it not being your cup of tea, but to hate so easily?
I despise rape and loli in adult games but if these feminist fucks succeeds in this pro-shit action then other adult games will follow suit until we get to pure long skirted anime chicks.
This is one of the shit I despise in the US. Sure the US is the greatest country on this fucking planet but it's feminist and other proactive groups that smears the country with crap.
Also. I'm not sure if I, Jesus was the one who said it but Women belong to Men according to the Bible. God (My Father) and I, Jesus despises those who transgress His laws. So if these feminists are remotely Christian or Catholic or whatever Christian cult they may belong to then they should just shut the fuck up and suck my God-given cock.
JESUS SAVES!!!
And the bi7c#y feminists withdraw.
It's cool that you are trying to make a point. But you are using the Lord's name in vain...Do you think this is really necessary and appropriate?
30,000 women constantly whining at you? Boy the government will fold faaaaaaaaast...
I wonder what would happen if 30,000+ obasans were to tackle the job of driving this group of idiots into the sea? Would it improve the situation? Consider that many of the previous generations were raised from the cradle to the grave as living Yamato Nadeshikos.
no wonder america has a higher rate of abuse towards women; let the angry, lonely women speak out and lead the women of your country to try and pick fights that aren't even there and you're bound to rape and beat the rest, who at least look like women.
oh btw, usa stop prying your shit in where it doesn't belong. If you want to uphold women rights, go save N Korean or African women, they need the saving more than a lot of Japanese women.
It's so stupid, Women have their own unique place in the world, so do men, it's just how we were made for >.>
They are just saying ban the violent-sex ones. I don't really care about those that much.
There is a study that when shown violent sex guys will be more aggressive or something. However, nice-sex erotica (Probably Da Capo, Air, To Heart 2) would make guys more sensitive and caring.
If they cross the line, there will be much rage.
You simply don't see the big picture here.
This is like if they were to ban rap music. "Oh, well I don't really care much about rap music." That's not the fucking point. The point is that it sets a precident, it's a slippery slope.
All they need to do is say Megadeth is rap, and suddenly metal is banned.
You all think this is starting with hentai, but it's not. I actually started with banning CP, and the slip is that now they're calling fictional hentai and stuff that, and they're also calling written works that as well.
Unless they got some other study to reference, they can only use the study stated with all it's flaws.
If they were to try to ban ALL hentai games then another feminist group will start to fight them for being ignorant. Probably the 3rd wave feminists.
Feminist groups disagree and sometimes fight with each other a lot and have several different factions.
Changed my mind. If you tried to hide then it becomes that more desirable. That's what pornography really is.
This feminist action is counterproductive even if I don't care about about those kinds of games.
Yo feminists! I know you do a lot of good things but this with backfire no matter how you look at it.
yeah, lets have rapits raping real, 3D lolis outside in daylight rather than keeping them in their dens all day fapping as they virtually rape fake lolis. very smart.
I don't like violent, raep mangas and stuff, but taking those away is not only counterproductive but a first step towards taking away something you DO like.
I'd very much doubt they'd stop at the violent ones only. After all, around 80% (my guesstimate) of the more "vanilla" games out there include e.g. a harem ending - something sure to annoy any rabid feminist. Those would be the next to go if they got their way (which, mind you, is about as likely as PETA convincing all of Japan to go vegan).
A quote from Neil Gaiman's blog [http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html], where he wrote about defending the freedom of a kind of speech you don't even personally like (he was specifically talking about lolicon manga), seems very relevant here:
"The Law is a blunt instrument. It's not a scalpel. It's a club. If there is something you consider indefensible, and there is something you consider defensible, and the same laws can take them both out, you are going to find yourself defending the indefensible."
Next up on Sankaku Complex: 'Adult Software Producers Association: "US Must Ban Feminist Groups"'
Now that I could get behind.
Sometimes these activist groups just go too damn far. Seriously people, this is a fantasy medium. A place for people to explore their fantasies without having to actually act upon them. And on top of that, if you don't like what's being portrayed in the product, don't endorse it or give it any media coverage. The biggest killer to any medium is a lack of exposure and demand.
The Equality Now idiots have effectively made the medium that much more popular by rallying against it. Too bad they just don't get the law of 'Against the Grain.'
People will always want to do something considered taboo. Let them do it in a virtual world where there are no repercussions besides less of a social life for the person partaking of the product.
"Feminism -The radical notion that women are people too."
I've always agreed with that sentiment and would call myself one as long as the definition stayed within those terms. I cannot abide by this radical crusade to ban a whole category of video games just because a few involve sex crimes. You're no better than douches like the Taliban who should be the real targets of feminist rage. Those so-called pious assholes are commiting real rapes I'm sure.
This proposed ban could hit the yaoi games as well. That'd make a lot of female yaoi raep fans mad. (Those fangirls scare me, but I support their right to to that stuff.)
Oh shit and i fucking know some yaoi hardcore fangirls.
The horror i can think of.
Every day, cars manufactured in the United States killed hundreds of people around the world. American cars should be prohibited.
Also, it is necessary to ban McDonald's for their crappy food.
That's just plain dumb. Really. If they can stop at least ONE Japanese company from publishing their games then they have my vote. Or maybe not. Coz it's just plain freakin' impossible, idiots!
I hate the world.
Well, they should at least look for the idiot that imported that game and posted it on Amazon. It was supposed to be domestically distributed not internationally. Silly protestors, Rapelay is for otakus.
rapelay is a pretty good game. no sarcasm intended. actually, all of illusion's games are good. maybe they should try making a man-rape game to please the female fans. then they'll shut up.
_|_ to them. Feminist are the worst.
"The group is attempting to mobilise its global membership of some 30,000 to pressure the Japanese government into introducing strict censorship, and in the process abrogate its constitutional guarantee of free speech."
wow! 30,000 of angry women
"This product is intended for domestic distribution and was approved by Japanese regulators. We won’t accept this sort of criticism from overseas groups.”
TAKE THAT!!!
Sounded more like an OBJECTION! to me...
>30,000 angry 3D pig disgusting ugly bitches
Fixed
Equality Now, eh? They should just make a game where you're a girl and rape a man and his son and call it equal.
This is bullshit...if they said its violence and exploitation of women then the US shouid ban Playboy and their porno and UK's Page 3 stop publishing nude model,,,,
LOL WTF? WHat part of being 2-D and hand drawn do they not understand? “Japanese companies are making massive profits from an industry based on violence towards women and girls, and ‘lolicon’ child pornography is becoming a huge market.
Why doesn’t the Japanese government step in to ban the distribution of products promoting rape?”Pffft... Yeah right. Only ignorant fools can fail to understand something like that. I'm not against the feminists but how I loath them when something so stupid as this actually happens. I mean what the hell!? Stupidity has its limits. Promotion of rape? Hah! Why won't you ban RL (real life) Porn before you say something about something that ain't real in the beginning. Unless they're stupid enough to say that someone that doesn't exist is a victim then I just pity the fools...
a good ol' falcon punch would be a great answer amirite
Why are the complaining about content that is not REAL?!!??!?! Sheesh!!
It's animated! Not real!
This 'Equality Now' organization seems to have some extremely skewed beliefs. While I can sympathize with the idea of eliminating discrimination against females, there is no justification for their discrimination against males. Instead of targeting a bunch of harmless porn viewers, how about making efforts towards catching actual rapists.
i think they right they shoud just mind there own fucking business, they have there own business and they making money out of it
i hope Obama will change it or he could just die like other president, to say the truth i'm shock that obama is still alive D=
Glad this article didn't spur any arguments...
THIS.... AGAIN!!!!
MORAL FAGS!!
Maybe they should just go and ban all sexually related things in some country. Every single thing, including playboy and then even put clothing on the venus de milo. It'd be interesting to see how the shit hits the fan after that. Public daylight rapings in the street would probably happen as some sad fellows snap from the impeding repression.
I'm a feminist and I love loli and moe animes. I find efforts like this embarrassing. Equal rights for everyone means free speech, I wish they'd pull their heads out of their asses.
honestly these people are the reson ther are no more good western tv shows and over my dead body will they get rid of the eastern outaku franchises i love
After reading these comments for a while I realize most of you people are right. There are still games, shows, cartoons etc. of basically the same things happening to men, and feminists are only focusing on these things happening to women.
As lots of people said before this is nothing but sexualized fiction which is not hurting anyone. Its just a release of pentup feelings in the confines of your room. They must separate fiction from reality.The ones who are determined to do it IRL will do it regardless as raep for them is not just about sex.
These feminazi fools don't realise that they are attacking the very idea that was instrumental in giving them the freedoms and power they have now , i.e.,Freedom of Expression .
Now taking their banning idea to its logical conclusion , why don't they live under the Taliban. Afterall everything is banned , so they should be happy no?? Aha, but it comes with a tiny rider that THEY MUST STAY IN THE KITCHEN .Oh , and also they will be married off at a very young age. Sounds pleasant doesn't it.
Ban all you want , but one day it will bite you in the ass, everything will be banned including you and YOU WILL END UP IN THE KITCHEN.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
Seriously, these feminazi bitches must stay away from my eroge .
Equality Now STFU and GTFO . Go help some real women who really need it.
Couldn't agree more. The last sentence was really to the point!
this conjures the image of an obese, vaguely female blob shouting at a crowd of enraged otaku with bludgeoning weapons...
why can't those US Bitches mind there own problems at there at there own country? look at there country hunreds an thousands of people die in america WHY?? because its a violent place out there pimps an gangsters an wannabes think its cool to treat women like sults i respect women alright men and women are equaliy the same. what about Obama? you dont see him changeing ANYTHING!!! after he became the prez he said change will happen.... yeah right every body said theyll change this an that all a buch of LIES!!!. i'm sorry if this offended any one out there i'm just giveing my opinions so dont take this to heart
Gods, groups like these make me wish I weren't female.
And don't they know that UNICEF tried doing almost the same exact thing and failed?
You have to consider the fact that feminists have nothing better to do.
You can contact Equality Now here:
http://www.equalitynow.org/english/contact/contact_en.html
Also, here's a sample message you can send to them:
I support the protection of free speech and the open exchange of ideas and I wanted to contact you today and urge you to eschew the practice of demanding the banning and censorship of erotic media which your organization finds offensive to its ideals. I feel that censorship has the potential to cause great harm to the expression of ideas of worth and is inherently counter intuitive to the processes of free expression and open debate. I choose instead to effect real change on the erotic arts by supporting and creating erotic content which better fulfills my ideals than those materials that do not appeal to me.
just send them "F*** You" :D har5
Porn is a gold rice field u know :D
Imagine the money they harvest there
They do that, one country's crumbled
I feel sorry for the girls gotten tricked into that though :'(
>US-based
I am so very sorry guys ;_;
Swine. Oh no, that would be insulting the animal
All feminists are doing is disrespecting and subjugating men.
Title should be...
"The World Must BAN Equality Now!"
Seriously, I personally feel that such games in fact reduce rape cases since gamers actually get to live in that fantasy for a while and thus satisfying their desire to actually commit rape.
But that's just my opinion.
And if they wanna ban rape games, START WITH YOUR OWN LOCAL RAPE PORN YOU NOOBS!!!!!
That would be all, thank you.
By the way
"The group is attempting to mobilise its global membership of some 30,000 to pressure the Japanese government into introducing strict censorship, and in the process abrogate its constitutional guarantee of free speech."
What the hell, they have 30,000 members and they can pressure the government?
We otakus number in the millions, why can't we pressure a measly 30,000 non-government body.
Am I right guys?!?!?!?!
What about the rights of men getting violated and being beaten up by anime and eroge women?
But men can't get violated.
only women can get violated.
As you all might know... the world is entering a "Child Friendly Phase" that's why they're trying to rid the world from impurities which is already here since God's time.
Since "Equality Now" is US-based, let me ask you this question:
Why are so Americans so puritnical, so uptight that it reaches levels beyond lawful stupid levels? This doesn't make any sense! As if we weren't prude and sexually hung up enough to outdo the Pope, and now we gotta drag the whole world into our sexually repressive ways.
The USA is already repressive in sexuality enough without getting others elsewhere around involved, especially a US-based group of feminists wanting to bring a new Victorian Era that makes Britain's era look like a playground.
If anything else, I gotta say that Equality Now should take a laissez-fare approach to their ideals. In other words...
"HANDS OFF OF OTHER COUNTRIES' PORN!"
Sheesh! This can't get any worse.
Americans are all puritanical and uptight...and from a firsthand source, too! YAYAMERICA!
If nothing else, the schizophrenic duality of unsexualized and hypersexualized elements in our culture says you're over-generalizing as it is.
Bush Admini's out, we can finally chuck abstinence-only from our schools...it can only get better from there?
Japan must ban feminism ^_^
They seem to forget that rape was around long before Japan and all its "rape simulators"
I think that it's the anime style of art that makes rape and violence towards women look so appealing - female faces are drawn incapable of expressing pain, disgust, or hatred, and therefore the male viewer feels this to be a mutually erotic act by the participants.
I mean, whenever I watch Japanese porn, I'm always surprised at how goddamn ugly these Asian women's faces look all scrunched up in 'pleasure', dead fish or statues that they are... I'm sure it's the desire of the Japanese artist to remove the real pain aspect from the experience entirely...
...because I'll bet none of you sorry fags have a fucking clue what it's like to have known women who have actually been raped or sexually abused.
i just read about review on rapeplay by equility now
it was in detail
i bet they must have had loads of fun playing it
That last sentence is really a overkill!
Kenji was right, damn feminazis
“This product is intended for domestic distribution and was approved by Japanese regulators. We won’t accept this sort of criticism from overseas groups.”
Heh for once the Japanese 'better-than-thou' attitude has a positive twist to it.
Oh and damn you feminists, damn you all to hell! When will your wacky ways end?
feminists are lesbians? wtf happen with that frigid women eroge its only eroge used for entertainment to adults if somebody pass of fantasy to reality its really sick! at least i played some eroges and i still dont rape to somebody
yeah...ban eroge...ban sex...just let the world end when the last human being dies when reproduction stops...remember people...NO SEX IS ALLOWED!!! it goes against human morals!! don't reproduce!!
that said, i think the members of equality now and any other supporting group of people obviously don't know anything about sex other than the missionary position, either that or they're too afraid to try it out, which explains why they're lashing out at anything 'foreign' & 'offensive' to them. get real bit*hes!! go get yourselves screwed and maybe it'll take the bitterness outta your lives!
The game isn't promoting violence against women...."Equality Now" is by making me want to CHOKE them >__<#
lol Feminazi's are a funny bunch.
Deminazi's are just attention deprived pricks who enjoys double standards and butting into other people's lives. Suck it up princess, and don't spill any.
I find it ironic that this group is based in America, since America is the second most lenient country on these things. Plus, if they tried to do it here, they would get Cock Blocked by the Constitution.
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
its stupid. for thousand of years the fact that male dominate's over women is proven all over the worlds history. gender equality just came up recently, i cant see any kind of action equality now can do to change the culture of the japanese people who even today still believes male domination. its a futile act. rather than making a fuss about other, why not amend for your own mistakes first.
I'm female. I don't have a problem with feminism. I have a problem with frigid feminazis that have nothing better to do than crusade against the slightest offensive thing. It's just a game. It's not hurting anyone. If you play this game then go out and commit violent sexual acts, you probably had major problems to begin with. The same goes for blaming Doom because some kids shot up a school.
If they were so interested in protecting women against violence they'd turn their attention to... Real women being treated violently! Not pixels and polygons being digitally diddled.