Feminist Group: “Japan Must Ban Adult Games”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: May 8, 2009 22:53 JST
- Tags: Amazon, Censorship, Eroge, Feminism, Lolicon, Mass Media, Rape, USA
A US-based international feminist “human rights” group, Equality Now, is demanding the Japanese government ban adult games (and manga and anime by extension) which “promote violence against women,” and violate the human rights of women.
They demand Japan institute a ban on material “promoting” rape and “Loli-Con” sex:
“Japanese companies are making massive profits from an industry based on violence towards women and girls, and ‘lolicon’ child pornography is becoming a huge market.
Why doesn’t the Japanese government step in to ban the distribution of products promoting rape?”
The group’s outrage stems from finding out about the recent Amazon Rapelay fiasco, where UK politicians and mass media with nothing better to do found out about the game being sold in the UK and US.
The game itself, a 3D chikan simulator released in 2006, features a fantasy scenario in which the player can sexually enslave a mother and her daughter, impregnating them and forcing them to have abortions if desired. A free demo is available here.
The game did not attract much attention in Japan, being fairly staid, but several distributors exported the game (in its original Japanese domestic version), and it became available in such bastions of tolerance and liberty as the UK and USA.
Amazon quickly ceased distribution of the title in all its regional operations, including Japan. Amazon.co.jp continues to stock other “rape simulators.”
Not content with seeing the west rid of this insidious plague, the group now wishes to force its views on what should be publishable onto Japan.
The group cites the dubious “research” produced by Japan’s tellingly named “Anti Pornography and Prostitution Research Group” to support its slanderous claims that Japan is nation where women live in abject subjugation under the power of male perverts.
The group is attempting to mobilise its global membership of some 30,000 to pressure the Japanese government into introducing strict censorship, and in the process abrogate its constitutional guarantee of free speech.
Equality Now describes itself as a group which “works to end violence and discrimination against women and girls around the world through the mobilization of public pressure,” an indirect way of saying they have their members bombard public officials and private individuals with angry letters. It appears actually assisting such women directly is not something they care to involve themselves with.
It usually concerns itself with “discrimination against women”, legalising abortion, reducing domestic violence and female genital mutilation; pressuring sovereign states into curbing freedom of expression appears to be a new sideline.
You can read their lengthy screed against the evils of Japanese pornography here. It starts with a breathless review of the perversions offered by the game, and then goes on to make a circuitous argument that Japan has an obligation to ban such material based on UN anti-discrimination conventions to which it is a party.
They go so far as to provide pre-written letters of objection (in English) with which to harass the game developers, distributors and Japanese politicians.
The publisher of Rapelay tells the interfering group to mind their own business in no uncertain terms: “This product is intended for domestic distribution and was approved by Japanese regulators. We won’t accept this sort of criticism from overseas groups.”
Via Yomiuri.
With violence towards women and girls far less common in Japan than in the USA or Europe, it would appear it is they who should be following the example of Japan…
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I despise rape and loli games but if this feminist group succeeds in this action, other adult games will follow suit.
This is one of the things I hate about the pro-this and that groups of the USA.
Wow, despise, really? I can understand it not being your cup of tea, but to hate so easily?
I despise rape and loli in adult games but if these feminist fucks succeeds in this pro-shit action then other adult games will follow suit until we get to pure long skirted anime chicks.
This is one of the shit I despise in the US. Sure the US is the greatest country on this fucking planet but it's feminist and other proactive groups that smears the country with crap.
Also. I'm not sure if I, Jesus was the one who said it but Women belong to Men according to the Bible. God (My Father) and I, Jesus despises those who transgress His laws. So if these feminists are remotely Christian or Catholic or whatever Christian cult they may belong to then they should just shut the fuck up and suck my God-given cock.
JESUS SAVES!!!
And the bi7c#y feminists withdraw.
It's cool that you are trying to make a point. But you are using the Lord's name in vain...Do you think this is really necessary and appropriate?
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SAUCE ON PIC?????
It's a conspiracy I tell ya, because Japan is making all the money on adult games and the people in the us who put the feminists in this crazy position is sticking them out like a sore dildo that japanese companies are profiting from the global recession because of Otaku
I am sure the next wave of such games would offer us a juicy raep of some feminist b..s.
Rallies for banning fiction again huh? HA.
Minds like these wont go away until they build the Orwellian kingdom they're ultimately after.
As puerile as they are intellectually, their acts are frequently motivated by a desire to protect the ones they love.
And as misplaced as it is, that motivation is practically unstoppable, and makes up the core of the most resilient type of fanatical mentality.
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This wacky femi-Nazi group (as opposed to real feminists, which obviously these loons are not), UNICEF, the creeping excessive power granted to the UN, the people behind these elements will continue gaining control and breeding faster than they know how to think.
Such is human weakness towards irrational beliefs and actions.
It's moments like these that I'm reminded of why the healthiest thing a person can do for intellectual progress is create artificial intelligences greater than their own limits.
Make them. Make them incapable of the militaristic prejudiced tendencies depicted in news articles like these. Make them able to breed faster than any slow thinking politically motivated control-infatuated zealot could ever hope to contend with.
It's unfortunate that there exists no other effective solution against human kind's inevitable desire to force their beliefs on their neighbors regardless of the costs.
Why cant women accept porn?
Because they refuses to accept the fact that they belong to us.
After all~
Genesis : God causes the man to sleep, and makes a woman from one of his ribs, and the man awakes and names his companion Woman, "because she was taken out of Man."
Well, they do belong to us...
Except we're not all Christians, making us exempt from this~
Hell, I'm an atheist christian, so I don't follow stuff in the bible like 'god said' BS.
An atheist christian? So you follow Jesus's teachings while asserting that there is no such thing as the divine? How do you reconcile the many contradictions there?
I would assume that they follow the teachings and wisdom of Christ, yet do not accept him as god. Just a great philosopher.
I was raised Catholic, but I follow my own moral pole star now.
There's nothing wrong with God.... it's the rest of His/Her 'Good Children' who give me a fucking migraine when they pull shit like this. ><
Sounds like a nice mixed drink right thar. :3
I don't label myself anything, other than anonymous, as it lets me have a lot more freedom than subscribe to one that has a set list of rules and regulations.
Or you could say I'm 1 part budhist, 1 part athiest, 1 part humanist, 1 part confucist, 1 part tarmic, 1 part ...ah, you get the point. Just call me anon.
Well then they DO belong to us, and if dangerous to Man as a cancer, can be cut off and removed as a part of him.
In like manner 2D Hentai/Loli belong to Man as being a product of a man's mind & hand... and no woman has a right to interfere with something that exudes from man & is a product of his thoughts.
Let them instead just occupy themselves with something that may belong to them, such as a pet.. Alsatian, Great Dane, tomcat or whatever.
I think the more legitimate feminist groups should get off their ass and protest moralfaggotry like this Equality Now group.
Also, nobody abbreviate them as EN, since this belongs to Exploitation Now, a cool webcomic, who deserve it.
Of course, we know they won't, because they're pussies.
see what happens when you let women vote.
They're just a bunch of people who've failed at their sex lives - or maybe don't even have one at all. Heck they may not have yet experienced masturbation in their whole pathetic lives.
This "equality" thing that we speak of: I believe it refers only to the fundamental equality. Equal access to resources, equal chances to opportunities, equal rights and privileges, etc. A woman can become president of the United States, should she apply for candidacy and win the election. But that doesn't necessarily mean that men have to start pissing sitting down, nor do women have to do it while standing up.
I believe that everything has their own roles to play. These adult games exist to satisfy the desires of those who want it. In the same manner, men and women, though both equal, have their own roles to play. The current feminist movement exists to add more conflict to the world. And no matter what they say, men can never conceive a child (through natural means, of course)
30,000 women constantly whining at you? Boy the government will fold faaaaaaaaast...
I wonder what would happen if 30,000+ obasans were to tackle the job of driving this group of idiots into the sea? Would it improve the situation? Consider that many of the previous generations were raised from the cradle to the grave as living Yamato Nadeshikos.
Next up on Sankaku Complex: 'Adult Software Producers Association: "US Must Ban Feminist Groups"'
Now that I could get behind.
"Feminism -The radical notion that women are people too."
I've always agreed with that sentiment and would call myself one as long as the definition stayed within those terms. I cannot abide by this radical crusade to ban a whole category of video games just because a few involve sex crimes. You're no better than douches like the Taliban who should be the real targets of feminist rage. Those so-called pious assholes are commiting real rapes I'm sure.
Sometimes these activist groups just go too damn far. Seriously people, this is a fantasy medium. A place for people to explore their fantasies without having to actually act upon them. And on top of that, if you don't like what's being portrayed in the product, don't endorse it or give it any media coverage. The biggest killer to any medium is a lack of exposure and demand.
The Equality Now idiots have effectively made the medium that much more popular by rallying against it. Too bad they just don't get the law of 'Against the Grain.'
People will always want to do something considered taboo. Let them do it in a virtual world where there are no repercussions besides less of a social life for the person partaking of the product.
They are just saying ban the violent-sex ones. I don't really care about those that much.
There is a study that when shown violent sex guys will be more aggressive or something. However, nice-sex erotica (Probably Da Capo, Air, To Heart 2) would make guys more sensitive and caring.
If they cross the line, there will be much rage.
You simply don't see the big picture here.
This is like if they were to ban rap music. "Oh, well I don't really care much about rap music." That's not the fucking point. The point is that it sets a precident, it's a slippery slope.
All they need to do is say Megadeth is rap, and suddenly metal is banned.
You all think this is starting with hentai, but it's not. I actually started with banning CP, and the slip is that now they're calling fictional hentai and stuff that, and they're also calling written works that as well.
Unless they got some other study to reference, they can only use the study stated with all it's flaws.
If they were to try to ban ALL hentai games then another feminist group will start to fight them for being ignorant. Probably the 3rd wave feminists.
Feminist groups disagree and sometimes fight with each other a lot and have several different factions.
Changed my mind. If you tried to hide then it becomes that more desirable. That's what pornography really is.
This feminist action is counterproductive even if I don't care about about those kinds of games.
Yo feminists! I know you do a lot of good things but this with backfire no matter how you look at it.
yeah, lets have rapits raping real, 3D lolis outside in daylight rather than keeping them in their dens all day fapping as they virtually rape fake lolis. very smart.
I don't like violent, raep mangas and stuff, but taking those away is not only counterproductive but a first step towards taking away something you DO like.
I'd very much doubt they'd stop at the violent ones only. After all, around 80% (my guesstimate) of the more "vanilla" games out there include e.g. a harem ending - something sure to annoy any rabid feminist. Those would be the next to go if they got their way (which, mind you, is about as likely as PETA convincing all of Japan to go vegan).
A quote from Neil Gaiman's blog [http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html], where he wrote about defending the freedom of a kind of speech you don't even personally like (he was specifically talking about lolicon manga), seems very relevant here:
"The Law is a blunt instrument. It's not a scalpel. It's a club. If there is something you consider indefensible, and there is something you consider defensible, and the same laws can take them both out, you are going to find yourself defending the indefensible."
no wonder america has a higher rate of abuse towards women; let the angry, lonely women speak out and lead the women of your country to try and pick fights that aren't even there and you're bound to rape and beat the rest, who at least look like women.
oh btw, usa stop prying your shit in where it doesn't belong. If you want to uphold women rights, go save N Korean or African women, they need the saving more than a lot of Japanese women.
It's so stupid, Women have their own unique place in the world, so do men, it's just how we were made for >.>
We need more loli's rights activist and big breasted woman's rights activists.
SCREW THIS! Just because there's "violence" in sex doesn't mean people have to emulate them! Also, there's a LOT of women out there with a masochist fetish! Finally, WHAT THE HELL AM I GONNA FAP TO NOW HUH?!?!?
Yes, and I'm sure someday that all the pacifists will come and say, "Hey, why not ban all games that promote violence and killing?"
They already do this, it's two faces of the same coin, they just approach sex and violence independantly.
It's just like, when the KKK goes after the blacks and jews, they try to do it separately, they don't want them to find out about a mutual enemy and hook up.
If they truly wanted equality they should have gone to Russia and joined with a group of domineering women to create a game where you're a woman (with customizable features and outfits, because from my experience many girls love that part of games if they have them, like various fighters do) and you can enslave customizable boys and men to be your sexual toys. Even judo-chop robbers and tie them in a basement setting to do SM things on them. Hell, i'd even play that, if you could make the woman really hot.
Since the feminist group didn't think of it, the rapelay people should make it and say "hah!".
human rights activists > feminist
caring for everyone is better than caring for a single group.
doesn't it feel weird? they want to ban "hentai" and "lolicon" but lets shotacon roam free? damn feminists.
Lol, you got a good point there :)
I see no implication that Shotacon will roam free.
Basically there's no implication that it won't, they ignore it, because they don't give a shit about males.
the first mistake the US made was letting women vote, it was all down hill from there
We should send them some man rape games. They call that femdom or something.
And you don't see men complaining about the BL games.
Okay, time for a seriously long, thought out girl's eye view on this.
I'm not a feminist. I don't believe one gender is superior to the other, just as I don't believe one religion or race or sexuality or anything is superior to the others. I believe all things should be treated equal and no more than that. Give everyone and everything a chance to experience both the wonders and horrors of life.
I do not agree at all with what these women are doing, either. If it was real life rape and such, yes, I would be against it, but I would be against guys raping women, women raping guys, gays raping each other, and straights/gays raping the opposite sexuality. NOBODY should have to experience the horror of rape.
But this is fiction. A fucking videya gaem. Nothing is being hurt, except for maybe pixels, and you don't see any pixel rights groups out there, which is because they're not fucking real and nobody is getting hurt at all. You play it, you jack off, everybody wins.
If you don't like the content, nobody is forcing you to play it. Same with any book or show or any form of media; if it's not real, then there's no reason to raise a fuss about it. You don't have to enjoy it. You don't even have to breathe near it.
Not everybody agrees on everything and likes everything, but if you don't like it, don't take it from others. America has stuff like freedom of speech for many reasons, this being one of them. If I don't like something, I'm not going to pry it out of the hands of anyone who does. I encourage everyone to love the shit out of what they do, even if it rubs me the wrong way.
These women are just moralfags, plain and simple, giving women like me a bad name. Being gay and a woman I honestly cannot see what they're talking about and wish they'd stop, but they're not going to. They're the anti-fun establishment.
The classic feminist just wanted equal rights; now she's twisted into this feminazi I can no longer agree with. It's a shame that not everyone can just agree that people are cool no matter what their background, story, gender, whatever is, but that's human nature. We'll never be completely rid of them, as nice as it would be to have that.
At least I can direct my attention and energy to things that actually matter.
Everyone should go and play a porny game right now and enjoy themselves to counter this and feel better.
This is true. Nobel Prize-worthy.
I think I am in love or something, shit.
took the words out of my keyboard, good job, woman.
i dont understand why they have to pry and fight to eradicate... a porn game. Being a country that puts out real porn with gang-bang themes, if there's anyone they want be a hypocrite against, it should first be their media.
I love these periods of sanity you bring to the articles. Thanks for the other half's point of view, hun. <3
You're welcome! And thank you for taking the time to read it and not just dismiss it as tl;dr or get back to kitchen, etc. Makes it worth the time it took to type out.
So true on so many levels. Love your post, Atma.
*throws many accolades*
*breaks a window*
*flees*
(I know this is too late but oh well...)
Atma, I hope you don't mind if I take a reference out of your words. You state the ideas I believe in with startling accuracy in a way I couldn't dream of doing.
good comment, but these guys... lol. Hey everyone! listen to the lesbian woman! *o* c'mon guys, we're all equally special here :D