Otaku have greeted the latest in the Atelier series of alchemy RPGs, Atelier Rorona, with disgust upon learning that the loli protagonist Rorona is in fact “second-hand” goods, apparently having something of a connection with a male character in the game.
Clear parallels seem apparent between this and the second-hand Nagi-sama fiasco…
They soon populated an entire thread with their disgust at the prospect of having to play through so soiled an RPG, the highlights of which you can see below:
A second-hand heroine? What kind of punishment is this?
This sucks, it’s finished. Change the damn name to “Bitch’s Atelier”!
Die. Who the hell would enjoy this kind of game.
Second-hand? Don’t sell this kind of trash…
The people who don’t say “Then I’ll make her mine!”, and just call her a bitch, really are life’s losers.
You’ve got to be kidding me! I bought a PS3 for this game!
I’ve been betrayed…
But isn’t this series aimed at women anyway?
People who look at one screenshot with a guy in it and then claim to have their wife stolen are really something…
What’s there to look forward to in this game now?
The guy is cute too so who’s complaining?
It could just be an arranged marriage and she’s really into yuri!!!!1
Rorona betrayed me – I won’t buy this.
The girl with the big ones on the right is real nice.
What am I to do now, I’ve already bought the PS3?
You guys are real sensitive.
Just when I thought it was worth getting a PS3…
I bet you lot would really flip out if a male character appeared in K-ON!
Looking at this I can see why K-ON! is so popular…
You can see the rest of the thread (in Japanese) preserved here.
More of the same follows, with it becoming apparent most have not bothered to check the actual site, which suggests Rorona (who is 14) is actually just being hit upon by a lady’s man in the shot in question.
This is still not good enough for the thread’s inhabitants however, who seem outraged that she would even speak to a male character…
You can see a wealth of screenshots and details, and some very appealing art, at the freshly updated official homepage. More on the lolified character designs in the previous article on the matter.
The game is due for release on June 25th, and is available for pre-order now.
With the game looking excellent, the ravings of a few virgin hunting otaku seem unlikely to dent sales unduly…
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Wow... over-react much?
from the looks of it yes its over reacting i mean... by the looks on how they reacted on a single screen shot... yay 2ch?
yeah what do u expect from pathetic (hardcore)otakus anyway... they act like all characters are real and belong to them. Any sane person should know that all of that is false.
Well, i guess the mind of one of those ill-minded Otaku is:
When i buy the game, those girls belong to me, no one else.
Pretty poor human beings, i guess.
When I buy the game those girls DO belong to me, NOBODY ELSE.
"my precious"
you need help...
Duh, there has never been a moment when Anon DIDN'T need help...
was that a cry for help?
Hey can I get Lionela's phone #?...I mean she's real right?....you mean these are 'Fictional Characters'?...I wonder what Mio thinks about this?
If you ever think you're hardcore otaku, all you need is one look at Japan to remind you that you are, indeed, not. Their hardcore will run circles around your hardcore.
Are we sure these comments are not a tongue-in-cheek joke that everybody just goes along with?
This is the internet...there's really no way to tell if somebody is saying something tongue-in-cheek or not...it's even harder if you're not a native speaker, granted, I'd lean towards Artefact being a native...but w/e...entertaining nonetheless...
Their Hardcore is OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAND!!!
MechaTama31> Sadly, that's the reality of the cream of the crap over there...
To them, nipples and vaginas of any color other than pink or light red, does not exist.
Who has the scratch to buy a PS3 for ONE GAME? Japanese Otaku are... Impressive... In so many ways. O_O
Yeah i find otaku over somewhat retarded. Hell it's just a game!!
WAT USED GOODS!?!?!?!??!? OMFG QQ INTERNET RAGE I I WANT REFUND NAO!!!!
I know you need clicks but its not nice to make up stories. I refuse to believe that something like this can possibly be true.
Don't make wretchedly baseless accusations of fabrication.
You can see the thread in the link provided (as the 2ch thread is probably expired).
> I know you need clicks but its not nice to make up stories. I refuse to believe that something like this can possibly be true.
Read: In denial.
sometimes its really hard to belive that this stuff could be true,
and its even harder to believe that you still find the time to tell us about this stuff ^^
so keep it up Artefact ;-)
And the others aswell, ofcourse ^^
It's 2ch. The fact that such a thread was created is probably true. That it's actual evidence that any otaku were truly, legitimately "enraged" by this is, at best, suspect (as it was last time). Maybe we should call this "trollcasting"? Regardless, I'm sure the headline was more attention-grabbing than "Atelier Rorona homepage updates with new images".
(Wait, what? Did I actually just defend Artefact here? LOL at "wretchedly baseless accusations of fabrication". ^^; )
I suspect a few were genuinely put out, but of course soon everyone piled in for the fun of the "matsuri"...
On 2ch, it is very tempting to join in and roleplay as a crazy person for fun.
Tsk tsk tsk, anon... Did you forget? To prove a point, you need either evidence or testimony! That's how it works here in court.
this place is practically 2ch's offshoot anyways, you mean you haven't seen similar cases of this here?
What?
Lol. JRPG's = SRSBSNS
Dont you mean...
"Second-hand loli" is SRSBSNS?
Fucking Nips overreacting again.
Three little words
GO FUCK Themselves
They buy the game just to see loli characters/?
Go play some real loli-eroge then, and stop bitchin!!!!
These type of no-life persons just deserve to roll on the fire
Figures they'd want a virgin, considering they'll be a virgin forever themselves, the fatasses.
"OH NOOO HER ANIMATED VIRGINITY HAS BEEN TAKEN AHHH"
"Fine, fine! Don't have a shitfit. I'll redraw the fucking hymen."
What type of fool wouldn't want a virgin?
^ more like what type of fool ONLY wants a virgin.
THIS fool only wants a virgin. When/If I ever lose me virginity, I would like it to be with another virgin, not someone who's had another dick in her before.
The kind of a fool who has had sex, duh?
Virgins are annoying.
Virgins are often more loose than experienced women. Muscles, baby, it's all about them.
Virgins think they have the right to use you as they wish just because you get to break a freaking hymen and hear their screams of pain.
Not quite worth it.
I can see why some like the idea of someone being as little experienced as they are, especially when it's otakus tend to have poor social skills. But usually, a virgin girlfriend is actually a pain in the ass.
The man speaks the truth.
oh ya. oh fuck yeah. virgin girls are great, but after you shagged her and poped her cherry your fucked.
Well frankly I'm pretty fucking furious that I'll probably never know what it is like to take a girl's virginity. I know that I'm missing out on something worthwhile.
Said by a true virgin.
Anyway, yeah you'd be out of your fucking mind NOT to want a virgin. That's like saying "Oh yeah this half-eaten sandwich I found is great! Sure am glad I found this perfectly good sandwich in that dumpster. In fact, I'm probably sure these bitten-off areas make it taste even better than it did originally."
Enjoy always settling and always having seconds or thirds or fourths etc.
>The kind of a fool who has had sex, duh?
Oh lawl.
What's wrong virgins too hard to get?
Having a virgin is pretty much a pipe dream, however, since ALMOST every female is pretty much a slut at her core.
We can dream ;_;
I think you might be lost; normalfag imitators usually don't come around here.
True story, man.
its not whether the girl's a virgin or not
but its the thought that she screws around or had screwed before with another guy that is what's making this people upset... although i agree its too much of a fuss for an animated character
> Anyway, yeah you’d be out of your fucking mind NOT to want a virgin. That’s like saying “Oh yeah this half-eaten sandwich I found is great! Sure am glad I found this perfectly good sandwich in that dumpster. In fact, I’m probably sure these bitten-off areas make it taste even better than it did originally.”
Might be shocking, but in fact, penises don't eat vaginas.
Moron.
>Might be shocking, but in fact, penises don’t eat vaginas.
Moron.
Nice argument.
Moron.
A nice argument is fine too.
But really. There are 2 types of men who only want virgins:
1) The extreme party boys that have shagged tens of teenwhores and want a virgin because they are jerks and think they - despite actually being pretty much whores themselves - deserve it
2) The socially restricted, uninformed virgins that are afraid of any girl who is in any way superior to him.
But my opinion is that either virginity or the lack of it shouldn't be a major factor in one's choice of partner... Who cares about a hymen if the girl is nice?
>Who cares about a hymen if the girl is nice?
This, srsly.
> Having a virgin is pretty much a pipe dream, however, since ALMOST every female is pretty much a slut at her core.
Oh, because males aren't driven by sex ...
Heh, what's the use of re-drawing the hymen... you couldn't see it b/c of the pixellation anyway lol
Is this true with most 2-D characters?...or just Loli game types? I mean it's obvious Haruhi's has atleast 1 abortion in her life. Future Mikuru'a had sex and I'm sure Nagato has 'detailed special data' symulations. Fiction characters have sex all the time 'Out of Frame'- what else are they gonna do?
Wait, how'd you get that idea? o.O I'll agree with future Mikuru having had sex (and hardcore sex at that) but why has Haruhi had an abortion? Also, considering how Nagato was programmed and basically lacks a personality and/or any social skills, I highly doubt she was given a 'detailed special data' simulation, as you put it.
But what of Sailor Moon?! She had sex before the series ended!!!!! (She was pregnant at the very end.)
All I can say is....Looooosers.
Fucking giafags.
This is pretty fucking disgusting to say the least.
I don't want a loli slut in my games.
You're way more loser, stupid faggot
NO U
They should join UNICEF if they are really adamant about protecting the lolis.
lol, nice counter...when does this game come out? looks good
Did you read the article?
I see this is becoming your catch phrase, sadly.
Well then maybe if you'd read the article he wouldn't say it as often!
Just a thought. :)
Those otakus is disgusting. Bunch of losers.
AMEN! Not to mention twisted. I mean I like anime and games but not to the point I should be as shallow as the one who said the rantings in this article.
The people who take these news seriously are about the same who take 4chan seriously.
For me, the most sad part is the "bishounenness" of the guy. I know it's a cultural trait, but it's kinda depressing that the "good looking" guys are always bishounen (or some bidanshi).
There is also a shota character (Hom are loli-shota twins).
So? Think about how women look in video games or anime.
Always skinny with gorgeous/pretty/cute features, and usually wear something revealing and provide fanservice.
We get to have our unrealistic men if men get their unrealistic women.
For the majority of Japanese girls, and hell, women in general, bishounen will always be better than bara. Not many people want a man's man.
You are implying that the lack bishounen has to result in some ultra-muscular manly man. That's not what I was complaining about.
Anyway, not really (about your comment of girls in J-games or animes). Try playing an eroge (lol). Male-centered ones have a great variety of archetypes, while female-centered (fujoshi) ones don't go much beyond the dominator bidanshi/bishounen, some bishounen and shota archetypes.
You can find more variation of females in popular games (in Japan) as well. Take the "Tales of" series, for example. All men characters are pretty much bishounen, while there is generally the loli, the big-breasted and the bishoujo archetype.
Uh, lol, I don't think big-breasted types count. That's like saying there's bishounen archtypes judging by hair lengths.
As far as Tales, it's usually a loli and a cute girl and a mature woman, yes, and with Tales there's generally the shota, the bishounen, and the more handsome man, so it's really the same.
I just think there is more variation on female characters, generally speaking. Just my opinion, of course.
Then again, it all depends on how you look at it. We could even divide the characters in further archetypes such as pettanko, and similar.
"I just think there is more variation on female characters, generally speaking. Just my opinion, of course."
Perhaps it seems that way because most games are aimed at guys, bigger market, more room for the best to rise to the top and the worst to be buried? I know in bishounen animes there are a lot of personality types, ways of dressing, etc. I think both genres appeal to the sexual interest of the fans, and suggesting that women's is somehow shallower in variety isn't really fair.
That's just what it looks like from my perspective though, I can't claim to be from any position of objectivity, being a yaoi fan since puberty.
I can only imagine what their reaction would be, if some 2ch English-speaker user discovered Sankaku Complex, and made a thread with our comments (translated into Japanese), lol.
It's funny you should mention that...
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=699#post-12836
You couldn't have timed that better.
i lol'ed
Btw, these are my favorite type of posts in Sankaku Complex. You could also post other threads with interesting responses/themes, not necessarily having to be with otaku's overreactions over something trivial. Not that these aren't amusing, of course.
These ronery Japs never cease to amaze me.
Just when you think your life is bad, sankakucomplex comes to remind us that there are way more pathetic people out there
It has nothing to do with being Japanese and everything to do with being otaku.
cocaine is a helluva drug...
Oh, my god... This is so pathetic.
No wonder japanese people detest otakus so much.
Funny how all those weeaboos consider themselves as "otakus".
wat?
detest?
otakus are attractions!
I've heard of some weird fetishes but an otaku fetish?
Wow, just wow.
You know the thread's in Japanese, right?
So they're otakus, not weeaboos, otherwise it'd be "OMG! -_- THOSE BAKA CREATORS MADE HER NON-VIRGIN! SHE WAS SO KAWAII DESU BEFORE THIS T_T I'M GONNA GO PLAY TOUHOU JA NE"
Err, I wasn't refering to otakus. I meant that the term "otaku" happens to be quite insulting if you think about all these outrages etc.
I lol'd.
Touhou is not a weeaboo thing. You should say Naruto.
Touhou is still pretty big with "true" otakus, anyway.
Oh lol... where's their sense of reality? Wait, do they even have a sense of reality?
And logic, sorry. Logic.
Game developers should be sorry they gave otakus(and a minor group of the gaming community at that) second-hand love.
over-react too much.. OVER NINE THOUSAND!!
I DONT MIND IF RORONA IS SECOND HAND WIFES!!
*gangbang anyone? LOL*
Anyone who thinks those people are being serious needs to spend more time on the internet.
You don't know the Japanese very well.
He's actually right.. It's just a meme that everyone plays along with.
you don't know otaku's very well do you?
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/15/cuckolded-otaku-desecrates-kannagi-over-virginity-issue/
At least the game looks good
anyone knows if it's gonna be released in america
Exactly what I thought.
The most recent PS2 installments were released in US (or will be), so I guess there's a good chance we'll be seeing a release of this one too.
de ja vu all over again
I can understand appreciating purity, but jesus.. one guy having this reaction is hilarious, more than one is just sad and depressing.
The day when Mio is revealed to be "used goods" is the day the internet explodes.
LOL so true. Too bad that's probably not going to happen.
If it does, it will most likely be with another girl. And the internet will be happy. Very, very happy.
Should have the computers at NASA calculate the odds and formulae for that occurrence.
To try preventing it, of course. ^_-
Mio will never have sex because she would be too scared about the pain.
If they do this that show would actually be funny!
Not that I don't like it though, Yui and Mio are pretty ;)
By their logic isn't she used goods as soon as another otaku gets their hands on the game?
Nah, I think they're living in their own little world.
¡Its like instanced dungeons in MMORPGs! :D
Shouldn't they want their characters to have more experience?
I completely agree
Maybe, except if she levels up 10 levels... grinding. :D
while me...
"i want a ps3 T____T"
I bet you lot would really flip out if a male character appeared in K-ON!
Oh crap; This already happened in the manga...
LOL at the Otaku's.....Over-reacting over this matter. It's just a game after all.
They'll strike with the slightest provocation, this is what makes them scary.....The past two articles of over-reacting otaku's are already enough to freak me out and now this ?
you haven't seen nothing mate...read once a dude committed suicide because of this kind of rumors. sometimes i think the majority of the j-otakus are crystal meth bunny's.
Is this how they think real life works? Absolutely everybody is just waiting to be their first? Goodness knows how infamous these types are for successfully making the first strike.
Lolifag rage is quite entertaining.
I feel his pain.
Its just like what they did to megaman zero , makes me sad
They can just shove tit down their ass.
I couldn't care less. If otaku don't have better things to do, other than making these kind of criticism, then they seriously need to get a new hobby. >_>
SO RONERY,etc
whats this game about anyways?
Non-virginity
i lol'd IRL
We need more games like this if I'm going to be enticed into a PS3.
lol slut
Always the virgin issue...jeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
that´s stupid
its a proof that many of those men never had contact with real women and for this they need to dream with unreal women
Rorona... Bewbs... Loli...
...
...
...
Doesn't compute
I could use less boobs m'self.
The only "second handed" thing is their brain ,which never cease to malfuntion.
they need to chill the fuck out... damn
They really do...
I LOL'd at all the RAGE on 2ch. An Atelier game heroine without a boyfriend? Is there even something like that or was it only on the old DC and PSX games?
Lack of sex with real women is really dangerous for your health.
trash of society
i hope these people were not serious and they have done it in satire
they dont need PS3..
they need a psychatrist
WoW
I
damn lol
Reminds me a lot of how several squeeling yaoi fangirls started to b*tch when they found that Ciel (KuroShitSuji) is engaged to Elizabeth,lol.
to me its the ppl here that are overacting
this may be more a way like you ppl react to the pantsu maths post,vowing to study maths harder or to take part in that class or whatever than some real ronery thing
ppl are just having fun
At some point they just have to be joking. Right? They can't keep overreacting like this every time some moé idol turns out to have a backstory. Right? Someone tell me there aren't this many idiots in the world.
I should kill them. The entire boatload of them.
Whats the reaction been to Final Fantasy games, almost every girl has a old boyfriend, who has usually died before the game starts but not always, one's even a widow
I still haz my Cuderia ^o^
Wow. That's just miserable
i totally by this game! english localization now!!!
This particular example of an addition to the PS3's library proves to be extremely promising, but obviously not enough for 2ch to forgive the previous expertise of some of the characters.
Although It seems to be strong both story wise and art style wise, one has little choice but to think that the development team should have gotten a point out of previous misconducts.
Its also interesting to speculate what made them come up with such a turn for the story. Do they not know the preferences of potential Loli JRPG players?
This will most likely not affect sales in a drastic way, but will surely continue to be a topic to flame.
*headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*
Ewwww, hymens are gross.
"I bet you lot would really flip out if a male character appeared in K-ON!"
Was just talking to my friend about this, lol.
I wanna see what happens then.
If a male character appeared on K-ON, the internets would explode...
because the chances of that happening is as slim as news surfacing that mio is (as the otakus say) "used goods"
i'd probably LOL is that happens
When I read the thread title I thought this was about them reusing a character from another game, which would still make this an overreaction
But man this is ridiculous
Silly otaku,in loled so much.
Who's in?
artefact> just screenshot the 2chan thread and include the screenshot in the end of article post.
A extra 10sec work but no one can flame you afterward.
Whoaw....I salute you and your diligence.
You're an otaku that's beyond hopeless....
Obviously most of it is just people being silly, but I do feel sorry for otaku who have the real-life idol-fan mindset, fantasizing a direct connection between their beloved character and their real-life otaku self. This causes all sorts of problems.
If instead you project yourself onto whatever male character is the partner for the girl, this solves everything. Forget your real-life self; become the cool 2D guy!
If you refine the erogamer mentality, you have the potential to be the happiest moe-ota. (You can go ahead and keep the idol mindset on standby for stuff like Strike Witches and K-ON.)
I agree and applaud you *claps*
Lol, this so so sad....
Honestly, I don't understand this 2nd hand nonsense. So what if the characters have had relations with other characters? Goddamnit, stupid otaku don't know anything about anything.
you're so insightful
I think the real issue is that otaku think they can have a relationship with said characters
what do you mean? all otaku's do that
Jesus....
This article reminds me of a song done by Sting and the Police once upon a time....
And, NO, it's not 'Roxanne'.
'Someone told me yesterday,
about how you sold your love away....'
This.
Great, I forgot to end the blockquote HTML tag - again.
*FACEPALM*
lolW00T?
I know they are hardcore otakus... but damn... Roneriness to the highest lvl... may as well slowly evolve to a different species from humans
they're just joking.
and apparentely the writer didnt get 2channeller's tone of voice.
I heard these otakus try to legalize marriage with an anime character...
But if one character married to so many people, how to legalize the husband or wife lol.
They want virgin or not depends on their own values, right?
Western is free, some Asian is still traditional.
Hey, virgins is not only for girls. We can also call a man virgin when he never have sex. True?
Some virgin guys want virgin girls. Non-virgin guys want virgin. Non virgin girls want virgin guys or virgin girls want virgin guys or many more combination. You choose your preference.
Whatever.
is this game going to be translated to english or what? would love to play this. :)
I feel sad for Japan... Is the gaming populace really that pathetic in Japan? Well considering how they took it up the @ss and liked it when it came to censoring eroge and bleaming "the world", I guess they really are fags...
Otaku are worthless.
Maybe this girl is not FOR them.
Overreaction much?
nice boa- i mean game.
Hey, what do you know. Hardcore otaku are lifeless parasites who need to be exterminated like all other vermin.
*yawns* Anything unsurprising?