Final Fantasy XIII Nightmare Looms for Xbox Owners

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The demo of long awaited RPG blockbuster Final Fantasy XIII has unveiled an unpleasant truth for Xbox 360 owners: the demo alone is 5GB, more than the capacity of a single layer DVD, and of course the full game will be many times larger.

The capacity of a Blu-ray disc is 25GB for a single layer, 50GB for two, whilst a single layer DVD is 4.7GB and a dual layer one 8.5GB. Unfortunately, the Xbox 360 only has a DVD drive.

2ch provides its impression of the situation facing Xbox 360 owners when the game finally finds its way onto the platform next year:

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This was what it was initially thought to be…

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Expectations have however increased…

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With the size of games ever increasing, suddenly the economy of including a standard DVD drive does not seem so wise. Much disc-swapping appears to be on the horizon…

Via Hachimaki.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    23:12 17/04/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    holly......time to get a ps3

    Comment by heyjey
    23:41 17/04/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    so you finally see the light?
    anyway I own the two of them, and I laugh at 360-only owners who'll deal with this utter crap.

    they want final fantasy? how about Infinite Disc Swap Fantasy?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:24 27/10/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I LOVE MULTIPLE CDs

    Only reason I liked 7/8/9 was because of the many CDs

    Lost Odyssey is godly for this same reason

    and if you tell my FF13 will be 40 cd package ima orgasm in my pants

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:28 29/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Im going to laugh when none of this japanese ps3 ass kissing bull shit comes true.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:57 17/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's the usual idiotic remark haters like to throw around. Disc swapping takes MUCH less time than installing.
    Oh no, I have to lose 10 seconds to get up and switch the disc!
    Besides, a case like the one in the second picture would beat the crap out of a single case with one Blu-ray disc.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:19 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    heh enjoy having to get up every damn hour to swap some damn discs, oh and not to mention swapping discs when you want to revisit locations Anon3... bet you didnt think about that now huh?...pathetic.

    And I much rather prefer let the game install for some 20-30 minutes initially than have to get up 50 damn times to change the discs. just go chill for those 20 mins and come back, no big deal.

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    Comment by Danielnoctis
    19:35 17/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    that's a joke right? it'll cost a fortune, anyone who has ever played a multi-disc game knows this. If this is true then even the PS3 version will have 3+ discs. I mean BD capacity is superior but not by that far. *I don't mind 3-4 discs('cos it means ahead of their time games) but fucking 20? that's taking it too far. Xbox's weakness is floating up.

    As far as scratches and stuff goes, BD has a superior durability compared to HDDVD, much like DVD vs CD. Google it. Even worse:if a single HDDVD can't be red it's farewell all discs coming after it(no saves and all), and also you've got to buy it from the top(none would sell disc 6 now,will he?)

    And as far as not being able to go to certain places for the sake of console equality, fret not.
    1st:equality doesn't mean identical,i.e in Ps3 version you could get to x place as soon as you got the means, but that would be suicide for your party.besides ex.points you'd need x magic and x & y weapons and armors.they only come when you're 20% through the game,then you're just strong enough to deal with it. But that would be disc 3 in 360 so it'll be the same result for both versions.
    2nd: i don't play my FF game just to get to a sub-quest,non-background history, non-plot based and complete it to get X weapon. FF7's sub-quests were great 'cos they were story based, and 7 did came on 3 discs. How it worked: it didn't make much sense to get to Wutai and complete the quest if you hadn't met Yuffie yet. So in disc 2,after you'd encountered her, they made Wutai accessible.easy and gets the job done.

    Comment by FoolyDooly
    20:51 21/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Instead, wait for the real picture to laugh at. lol.

    Though all disc technology DOES have flaws, it did have been proved that Blu-ray can handle more scratch-possible environment and handle far more size. Installing is not the problem here. The fact that games increase size and the chance of 360 becoming more hassle to own adds up together eventually.

    I wouldn't even touch that RROD. I don't touch my PC for a while when it hits BSOD. In fact, I rather have BSOD. PCs are recoverable. 360? Not so much...

    you can argue my argument is shitty, but as you add on further, 360 becomes worse environment for game to grow in now, especially on DVD. If you also take in few games has been dropped for support of PS3's capability, weather it be hardware or disc capability, that difference becomes immense.

    IM@S, Halo series, and Orange Box/L4D is only worth game for 360 (Vesperia is a joke issue, so I won't go into it). And I don't even touch Halo, IM@S is being remade into PSP (and perhaps PS3), and since Orange Box/L4D combo has PC counterpart that's immeasurably better... (Even Gabe Newell of Valve, who supports 360, said it's hassle to program on 360, due to it's memory limitation.)

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:29 19/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Are you people actually arguing about DVD capacity? This is a joke article, guys.

    Comment by Dorian Cornelius Jasper
    06:48 21/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Reply threads like these remind me not to bother with the console hubbub.

    People: Stop imagining that these joke pics are real ammo for your console war.

    Comment by Terriblelie
    00:37 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Man i would feel like such a baller walking out of the store with a case that big

    Comment by MARl0
    00:58 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Besides, a case like the one in the second picture would beat the crap out of a single case with one Blu-ray disc."

    Umm...no, no it wouldn't. It'd be ridiculous.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:58 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lets not forget if one dvd bites the dust then the whole set bites the dust hahaha, much better to have on BD

    Comment by Shyster
    03:15 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ITT:my console is better than yours.

    Comment by K
    02:36 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the whole console war is stupid :-\

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:26 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Would you be happy if developers went back to CDs? Would you mind the disc swapping then?"

    That's an awful analogy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:13 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    My console has idolmaster!

    And a red glowing button....

    Comment by Gar
    03:58 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well I read someone post in a forum that SE better make it so that the entire game can stream load off the BD instead of having to install onto hd. That person stated that other high-profile games can do stream loads nowadays instead of installing straight to hd, and would be an insult to SE's programming abilities considering they've been developing FF13 for quite some years now.

    Guys, it was fine disc swapping back in the old days because of limitations in media space. It's why we upgraded from CD to DVD right? And then single layer dvd's were too limited. That's why we upgraded to dl-dvd's right? Now that dl-dvd's are limited, the industry is looking into bd right?
    In all honesty I don't think developers should be going retro. Would you be happy if developers went back to CDs? Would you mind the disc swapping then?

    If a game requires installations while another game that looks & plays the same (or better) doesn't, then that's just sloppy. They should've thought into it more instead of relying on installs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:31 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A video of just how much damage a blu ray disc can take.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEbZt6AIQ

    :D

    Comment by Sadron
    01:22 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Owned by Anonymous number 3.

    Comment by WondrousWizard
    01:30 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Changing dvds is not a big deal, but owning a case like this would be troublesome. Take a lot of place, can easily scrap the thing and not really appealing. And I wonder how long you have to on a dvd before changing. More GB doesn't mean more playtime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:01 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If a BD bites the dust, the entire game bites the dust.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:39 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lets not forget the cost involved in buying all those dics + cases.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:07 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Except you made up those odds and didn't even take into account failure rates and BD being quite more recent technology. The odds don't quadruple, it's not as if there are no variables at all and it's just deduced.
    And I know why I made that remark. The only idiotic remark that haters can come up with is regarding DL DVD vs BD. How would you lose this game? Do you want to carry it yourself while walking down the street? Are you going to lose it in your bedroom? Are you going to take it to parties? Use it for foreplay?
    If you lost the PS3's BD, it's lost, that's it. Same with any DVD for the 360.
    Damaged the disc? Same for both.
    You people are so out of words that you even bring defective hardware into account. It just keeps getting more and more stupid.

    Comment by MARl0
    01:58 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "If a BD bites the dust, the entire game bites the dust."

    lol, that's just stupid. If the 360 version ends up being like 4 disks for instance. You're odds of having a defective disk has effectively quadrupled. And just one defective disk is really the same thing as having the entire game bite the dust.

    Having a multi disk game greatly increases your odds of having a defective game, compared to a single disk game. And that's just common sense.

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    Comment by Narcissist
    01:54 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lets not forget the space all the damn discs will take on the X360 HDD, since it is made so unoptimized. Lost Odyssey with its four discs installed on my X360 HDD takes like 30gb alone.

    I sure hope the stupid people who only own an X360 will have to pay more too. Since Microsoft takes out a licensing fee PER DISC.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT_bajS3K-I

    ^ Me laughing.

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    Comment by kebrus
    00:02 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i wouldn't be that happy, even if SE said they are doing the ps3 version first concentration solely on it, thats completely PR crap talk...

    the games are supposed to be exactly the same for both versions, that means if they need to cut something out to fit into a DVD they will do it on the ps3 too, for example, in a certain part of the story, lets say, disc 3, you might only be allowed to visit X amount of places and do Y amount of side quests simply because there isn't more space available on disc, if it was a ps3 exclusive they it might not have that restriction, but since it is multi platform they will nerf down the ps3 version to meet the 360 version...

    lower common denominator...

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:28 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Seriously people, arguing isn't going to change anything. If they cut it, they cut it. If they don't, they don't. That's it.

    Also I don't see why people need to compare consoles, they are all fun, some are just made to suit different types of games/gamers.

    For reference, I own both, but much prefer ps3, and if they drop the magnificent quality of Final Fantasy, I'm gonna be pissed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:31 01/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ITT: Poorfags that can't afford to have both consoles.

    Stop this useless penis envy and get decent jobs, so that you can afford both 360 and PS3, you losers.

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    Comment by Robocop
    07:51 19/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    this shit is funny... you're all fighting over which version of the game is "going to be best". newsflash- it's not out yet, so all you can really do is speculate.

    way back when i played ps exclusively i loved the ff games, viii is still one of my all time favorite games, my best mate prefers vii, but neither of us focus on the fact that they are different games at all. it's personal choice and interests that drive what a person like to play. se have decided to release this game on 360 due to a lack of Japanese owners of the 360. i read on this site just last week that sales are down on M$ baby in Japan. if both companies have signed a deal to make games that will boost sales in this region, then that can only be a good thing.

    as a 360 owner, i don't think i will mind if there are any differences between the platforms. when gta 3 and vice city finally got released on the original xbox, the picture quality was better than that on the ps2. however the gameplay was much of a muchness. the aiming while driving was a pain in the arse, but that has been much improved with the button locations on the 360. i also remember that when silent hill 2 came out on the 2 consoles it had it's differences, xbox had an entire mini game tagged onto the end that ps2 didn't. is anyone still pissed about this? god i hope not...

    i bought my 360 because of one game, halo. i love the series. can't wait for odst to come out. i'm sure there are other people out there in the same boat as me, they bought for a specific game that wasn't released on another console. i love the fact that something i love from my past is coming to something i love now. i really don't think multiple discs for my console of choice will be a problem, if the gameplay is good, then what is there to really worry about...

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    Comment by kebrus
    03:10 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah right, because a company lying, or better yet, not telling you the whole thing, to obtain their own purposes is something that only exists in fantasy right?

    welcome to the real world...

    ignorance sure is bliss...

    Comment by Hynad
    02:36 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You jump to conclusions really quick.

    The official words are that they are focusing on the PS3 version as of now.

    You believe what you want, but since there has been so words from them to confirm your blatering, I'll say everything you said is coming out of your ass. ;)

    Comment by WondrousWizard
    01:38 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry, I can't just accept what you said Kebrus. That would be really a mistake to do that for multiple reason. First, Final Fantasy has been on playstation only from the start (exception of some title who started on nes and snes). Being on Xbox360 was like a way for them to get more money and make happy a lot more of people. So Xbox360 owner should be grateful of what they would got. Second, cutting to fit on Xbox360 and doing the same for Ps3 would be stupid. Already, a lot of game are really to short to play, not enough secret and others elements who make a great game. If they cut into FF13, I'm afraid that the quality of FF13 would go down. More, I believe microsoft should find a solution for this problem instead of SquareEnix cutting every version to please Xbox360, because that's not gonna please ps3 owner.

    It's a choice between Xbox360 and PS3 owner for now. But maybe they will find a solution sooner or later. The game is not on market yet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:08 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The thing that fills PS3 blu ray discs up is uncompressed audio, and multiple versions of the game to aid loading speeds. Cutting that excess flab will work wonders for putting in on DVD I imagine.

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    Comment by kebrus
    02:12 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @WondrousWizard

    dude, try to think outside the box please... do you really think they will tell anyone if they cut something? at best they say it was a design choice, seriously... think about it, when they said the two versions would be the same but they were only caring for the ps3 version at the moment, that was only PR talk to please everyone, imagine that one of the versions has some kind of a nerfed down graphic, like... like bad eyes texture resolution, meaning something that a normal guy would notice, do you think they tell everyone, "PS3 version is better than 360 version" (or vice-versa), can you imagine the hate? that would be like shooting your own foot...

    seriously, SE is a company like all the others, some try to trick you into convincing their product is good, others try to make the best product that they can and hope people will like it and sales will respond to that (this is SE way) do you really think they care if tons of their final fantasy are on the playstation consoles? they care about cash income not you or me... M$ offers them money to release the game on 360 and now they have more than twice the consumers available to buy their product, it's obvious they would accept the deal...

    do you really think that if they really need to cut something because of some console limitation they will only cut it in that version? seriously? do you? it's not a matter of pleasing someone, it's a matter of not getting hatred of half of their consumers...

    thats why i hated FFXIII going to 360, not because i hate M$ or the 360, simply because the game wont get any better for being on multiple platforms, it can only get worse, and the sad thing is, you will never know how better would the game be if it was an exclusive...

    Comment by count-up-sukka
    02:32 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    well, having both roks now that I have them, but if I only had the 360, facing the reality, it wil only use from 2 to 3 DL dvds...so, it will be something like playing FF7 for the first time...

    how many of us have actually yelled at using 3 or 4 cds for a FF in the psx?

    totally off topic...its a mere mather of taste...

    or if someone is young enough, maybe tat psx case is something that they could be unaware off...like my nephews who droll at FF13 but didn't knew FF 'till advent children...

    Comment by Shadow
    05:33 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So what?
    PC gamers still install disks that can take quite some time, so what's the problem with just changing the disk every once in a while? I've never had any problems with it in all the years that I've been gaming using multiple disks (or installing expansions that were four, five, six disks on my PC... or patching MMORPGs, that can take equally forever). I'm still not paying for a PS3, since there really aren't many games on there that I'd play (and my friend has one, so I use his sometimes for the few games I AM interested in).

    So really, it's either waste my money in buying a completely new console, or have a few disks to change out. I much prefer the latter.

    Comment by kiaish

    Ill get the 360 version altho i have all 3 next gen consoles for 3 simple reasons, XBOX controller, 1080p, I dont mind swapping disks. Seems most PS3 titles dont come with 1080p suport wich is why (besides feeling the 360 controller is beter) I buy my games on the xbox while my ps3 gathers dust.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:28 13/10/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    then y the hell u got the ps3 for to make fun of it shitloed

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:46 11/02/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    SIMPLE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM MAKE A COMPATIBLE BLUE RAY PLAYER FOR THE XBOX 360. IF THE GAME DOESN"T COME OUT TILL NEXT YEAR SHOULD BE ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE ONE THEN MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR A REASONABLE PRICE THEN THERE WILL BE NO NEED TO SHORTEN THE XBOX VERSION DOWN TO 18GB

    Comment by Gamer
    17:05 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    PS3 FTW!!!!

    Comment by bill gates

    ps3 has no games fuck off fags

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:02 20/04/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    lol.

    http://anchan.an.ohost.de/goodps3exclusives(retail).jpg

    As compared to

    http://anchan.an.ohost.de/good360.jpg

    The nogames joke only worked in 2007. I'm afraid the 360 has lagged far behind the PS3 and Wii.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:47 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL! +1 ps3 time

    Comment by Chen
    01:29 19/04/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    OMG, what long of a 2D Game you could get for that capacity. 10 000 hours? Damn, they should have sticked with good old 2D RPG's. That would have been awesome. Less dick-graphics and more gameplay.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:59 19/04/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    i kind of agree.

    meawhile XBOX SUCKS

    Comment by cyric
    10:18 22/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    im a ps3 owner and i can honestly say the xbox does not suck it serves its purpose which is to play games and it does have some good ones to

    Comment by kosko
    12:21 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    really.....everyone....just play the game. if my BD takes a poop then I'll go return it, if my dvds take a poop then I'll go return it. it's just a game. half of us wont finish it anyway

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:20 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    games are serious business... ehhh right

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    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    12:57 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There is no fucking way a 360-fanboy could make this seem even remotely good for them...unless XIII is 9001x worse than XII, which was only really bad with the story...

    Anyways this time im aloud to say it...LOLZ IN DA 360 USERS FACE~ LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!11!1

    PC is still better :P

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    Comment by Rinfinite
    16:23 18/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    FF XIII for PC?

    Comment by Dorian Cornelius Jasper
    07:05 21/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wouldn't buy it.









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