Xbox 360 Owners Betrayed by Tales of Vesperia
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Apr 13, 2009 13:35 JST
- Tags: Marketing, Microsoft, Ports, PS3, Tales of Vesperia, Tales Series, Xbox 360
The much anticipated PS3 version of Tales of Vesperia was recently announced, and of the many extras included in it the most notable addition is pirate loli character Patty Fleur.
However, a 2ch denizen who just happened to be browsing the compiled code for the game with a hex editor (let us not enquire too deeply as to why) has discovered evidence that she was in fact in the game from the start, in the form of mentions of her name alongside those of other characters.
This plainly casts doubt on her “new” status, and possibly suggests that all this was planned from the start?
EST (Estelle), RIT (Rita)… and PAT (Patty)?
A variety of reasons seem plausible, such as development schedule, disc space, etc., but a marketing tactic on the part of Namco, for use after Microsoft’s bribe wore off, seems most plausible.
Once again, PS3 owners are thanking Xbox 360 owners for participating in the fee-paying beta test…
Via Ore-teki.
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Time for reverse engineering!
well.... FUCK
Ugly truth: Most "surprize" updates, add-ons and mods were all planned from start.
Seriously. Specially if the game is made by a big company.
But don't get pissed over this: when add-ons, extras and mods are not planned a long time before release, they have more chances of sucking or having bugs.
Also, if you analyze hex codes, most games will have tons of extra stuff there that might have been considered while the game was being made, but dropped due to deadlines and stuff.
Oh yay, another crossdressing Karol Capel picture for my collection.
I'd rather have a game a year early than an extra character. What kind of development will this character have anyway? They'll have to worm some extraneous content into the game to force some character growth in on her behalf.
Besides, the last time I remember a female pirate character in a Tales game, I was fawning over Meredy and Farah, so a pirate girl is nothing special as far as I'm concerned.
Also Flynn is playable or something. Meh.
It's not JUST that.
They're adding a shitload of other new stuff too, including alternate endings, apparently.
More voice acting, new cutscenes, 'dynamic' camera angles during existing ones...
It's a complete remake, effectively.
So in other words, expect DLC content for the 360 version in the near future.
Even if that holds true, I hardly think that will tempt people back to a game they would have been done and dusted with ages ago...
To be honest, I highly doubt any DLC will be available for ToV on the 360 after its PS3 release. Even I wouldn't bother upgrading my 360 version, I'd rather just re-buy the game for my PS3.
Oh god this is such bullshit. I feel so hurt.
'Once again, PS3 owners are thanking Xbox 360 owners for participating in the fee-paying beta test…'
I have had no particular interest in this... but that line bugs me =_=
That always happen. They always plan more things, all along. But they end up putting them on a newer version (see ps2's Tales of Symphonia, American Tales of the Abyss, etc).
Iv been a long time fan of the 360, but i really did need a reason to get a PS3, I beat tales on the 360 but id gladly get it again for the added hi-oagi, more story line and add character.
maybe they meant PAL
hmm
mispelled
Once again, PS3 owners are thanking Xbox 360 owners for participating in the "fee-paying beta test"…
Thank you very much XboX users. Again.
Like I said before, Bandai Namco has always been a dirty whore. And I am still waiting for a PS3 port of Ace Combat 6 from these whores.
Wow this hate between console owners is stupid. You guys really need to chill out. From all the years of flaming there are these reasons why you flame.
1)Regret what you bought
2)Never played it and just joined the band wagon
3)Picked one to hate and stuck with it
4)Learn stuff that isn't true and base your choice on that.
Now I have a friend who is a 2, and met a lot who are 2 or 1. But let me ask you this, are you guys who flame each other really happy with the console you have. If so shut up if not shut up cause this fighting is stupid.
thank you i agree 100% lol i meen i have my favret systom just like the next guy but there both good systoms in there own right but im still pissed with square enix for the star ocean thing becas that was just stupid it was a sony title for like ever and then bam 360 i was sad and that another reson why i was upset about tales jump to the 360 so im happy there doing this although they should have the add ons as DLC
As a 360 owner I'm pretty pissed about this. I literally JUST bought ToV about a week before the news hit that the "ultimate" version would be released on PS3. Until now I'd been loving the game, but since finding out that I'm playing the "gimp version I'm finding it hard to work up any enthusiasm to finish it. I'm really hoping that Namco/Bandai make the additional content playable on the 360 with DLC.
And for all of those who would mock me for having a 360, know that I didn't really have a choice in what console to get. Unless I wanted to go out and spend another $1,000+ on a new monitor/HDTV that supports HDCP (in addition to another $600 for the PS3 itself) I couldn't get a 1080p picture with a PS3 on my current display so I was pretty much stuck with the 360. I used to be a Sony fan (had a PS1 & PS2) but when they decided to buttfuck their fans by selling out to the MPAA with that HDCP crap I had no choice but to side with MS this gen...
i think your all kinda being stupid about this mostly cas i think its fucking funny as hell and to clear things up the ps3 isent that expecive anny more i meen news flash its 400$ and the 360 elite is 400 $ i realy dont see much of a difrence there do you
and i say elite cas its the only 360 worth geting
PS3 also got a component out just like the Xbox, and just like that it can output in full HD for games whenever it is available. Better find new excuses.
please don´t make laugh all the shit talk to microsoft is because very powerful company and the other have envy to them hahahah poor losers
this is why i hate xbox they want everything to them selves and find crappy excuses
So essentially, she was in the XBox, but they won't let her be seen.
I pirated it, so fuck them.
I lol'd at the "free beta test" comment. I lol'd HARD.
The way I look at it, what namco is doing makes a lot of sense.
I guess the porting to the PS3 is keeping (engine?) programmers occupied. Maybe enough of them that some of the remaining staff finds themselves twiddling their thumbs while they're waiting to get done. After all, all the music, art (well. I gues PS3 gamepad button bitmaps need to be done. :p), animation work, storywriting etc. is already done. But whoever is doing the port is still tied up.
Depending on how the studio is staffed, it might not make sense to put all of the people now twiddling their thumbs on another project. So you might as well use them to get the stuff done that didn't make it into the 360 release (maybe due to time constraints, as the presence of code snippets in the 360 version suggests).
Calling it 'unfair' to the 360 owners is somewhat nonsensical in this context, especially when there's a one year wait between releases. On the contrary, I'd call it unfair to the PS3 owners if a year passed WITHOUT anything getting added and/or fixed.
Just saw Keirnoth half-said the same stuff above. Woops.
Well, I really doubt that space-constraints were an issue, though. :p
Don't get why people are coming up with these types of conspiracy theories. The explanation's pretty simply - probably leftover code/data in the game they meant to implement but ran out of time/money/budget to do so. They probably meant to put the loli pirate in there, but couldn't do it because of the above constraints.
In comes PS3. Now they have a bit more time to develop, and they're not limited by space because of how much storage space is in the Blu-ray format. So guess what, they implement the stuff they didn't get to implement before.
Come on guys, is it really that hard to see that? Can we keep the whole DEY HAET US 360 PPL ;_; baaawing out of this article? :(
Constraints of space don't come into it. At no time is the entire 9.4GB of data on a DVD actually loaded into memory. If the game is 25GB in size, then I'd be prepared to buy a 3 disk set.In fact, it's probably cheaper to print multi-DVD games than it is to print one b-ray disk for the same game.
ps3 sucks balls :D
Thank God I decided to wait on buying this. Now will wait on the PS3 version to come out and then become cheaper.
This reminds me of how Tales of Symphonia was first on Nintendo Gamecube, but later a PS2 version full of more goodies came out.
Guess it was Microsoft's turn to be NamcoBandai's victim?
Now they need to make a Wii version. Nintendo FTW!
I guess 360 ppl kinda deserve this, since they get games like 1-2 years ahead of ps3 ppl, but the new content should be available for download or something :P
Grats to Namco for adding more hate fuel to the Console War fire :D
Wouldn't be surprised if on release day there is DLC for the 360 lol.
Still game was worth it and beat it a long time ago. So even if there was new DLC I wouldn't get it as I don't reply RPGs once beaten.
those Xbox otakus are in so much rage right now
Namco doesn't like Microsoft. 'nuff said.
*Edit* that's probably why they didn't get as many ougi as one would think.
That must have hurt for Japan. I like my 360, but Japanese gamers can live without one. Too bad they wanted vesperia so bad.
Japanese gamers just buy the 360, play the game and resell to Traders, Liberty or one of the many other used game stores. Makes no difference to them.
I bought this game 2 days ago on the 360 and now I find this... I used to really like Microsoft back in the days of the original Xbox but things just keep going down hill...
thats why you should keep a flashed 360, so that you can beta test for $2 a game.
Thank god I never bought this game nor ninja gaiden 2,other PS3 title get extra but never been jealous.
*Paying* beta test.
Not sure about wording this to be honest.
hey, not Sony's fault for Microsoft not going bluray
360 Vesperia has over 2gb of free disk space on the double-layer dvd. PAL version is actually coming out with BOTH japanese and english audio, still on one dvd. So guess what? The whole thing about lack of disk space is bullshit from Namco.
Every 360 game has 2gb of free space and is used for protection purposes.
I doubt that this wasn't included because of Blu-Ray. More than likely it is just to make people want to buy it again. Though, I am now glad I didn't buy this when it first came out, at least I am until I get the disappointment of not having the PS3 version coming to the states.
Like ToDR and ToD:DC as well as Eternia (non-European ver. for PSP) and Symphonia port and other good games they could've brought over. -.-''
I'm happy but also scared if they ever decide to bring it over despite the Americans will need to work this one over again. Just hope they aren't too stingy.
"a 2ch denizen who just happened to be browsing the compiled code for the game with a hex editor (let us not enquire too deeply as to why)"
hmm.... why indeed... =_='
Nah, it just so happened he accidentally run a hex editor, and accidentally opened the file in question, and accidentally browsed through that section in which he accidentally glanced upon and discovered the gem.
A cat is to be blame for all of the accidents
There are communities on the net dedicated to figuring out file formats for games, especially 3D games. That's how you can find model viewers for all 3D final fantasy games, for example.
Browsing the binaries is part of the process of figuring that stuff out.
XD
>XD
Cancerous shit.
LMFAO
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lol'd
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO indeed.
XD nice
Nice indeed, can't find a better example of that laugh ;3
if there just using the 360 to see what they did wrong they should at least offer an update for what they add to the PS3 version and a down load for that character
Exactly what he wrote. The 360 has proven that it's good on the DL department. I don't think that it's too much to ask that when the PS3 gets their version that the 360 get the content as a DL option, I'm even willing to pay for it (was done with Vader in SCIV) so long as the price isn't ludicrous (anything over 400 M$ points).
That would be nice, but I wouldn't mind since I'd get the PS3 version too anyways. Lol'ing at the news though. I'd be laughing if it was truly planned from the very start.
Anyways, since it was Microsoft I was expecting this so it's not too much of a problem since I like the Tales of game and some games on the Xbox (although the Xbox is now heavily used for Vesperia replays)
Anyways, would love to see what they'd do in the new additions. Saw the trailer and it looks great so far
Best comment here. There's really no need for the 360/PS3 hating every other idiot is spewing.
I'll probably end up getting the PS3 version as well. I highly enjoyed the "fee-paying" beta .. and it was definitely a low "fee" for the number of hours I got out of the game (150+ and counting).
I hope the PS3 version allows online play though... that would be totally awesome. But I highly doubt it.
But Europe is where the PS3 sells by far best, despite being even more expensive than the other markets. In short, Europe is an up market market. Then agin of course, that still wont mean that just anyone bum can afford one.
It is not like an essential for existence!
@Cokematic
There's plenty of reason for hate here if you don't have the money to own a PS3 and if you live in Europe so you haven't even played it yet and it's being ruined for you
Not that I will actually be hating because it is pointless, but there's plenty of reason for it
bah I wasnt interested in the 360 version anyway, so I probably wont be getting the ps3 version either... what DOES bother me a bit is the announcement of Ninja gaiden Sigma 2...
It's quite similar to what's going on with this game
What WOULD be a good tactic, is the namco people, after everyone has bought the ps3 version, SUDDENLY released a secret code/combination/patch/passward that unlocked the new content (new character) on the xbox360, which already had them on the CD, just kept in secret >.>
but that's really unlikely...
Tell that to PS3 owners who buy games like fallout 3. Microsoft does everything possible to screw Sony over.
That's not Sony's fault. It's just a poor 360 port by Bethesda.
Yes, I have F3 for the PS3 and yes, it freezes and stuff. But it's still fun.
PC Fallout 3 is glitchier than the both of the console versions. My computer exceeds the recommended requirements, yet it won't even make it past the start-up screen. I didn't even have CCCP installed yet. From what I've seen and heard, the patches that Bethesda released cause more problems than they solve.
M$ payed for exclusive DLC, which included a level cap adjustment that PS3 gamers don't have access to.
WHY???- They already know Xbox fans are dumb enough to keep buying one after how many 'red rings', Cardboard Coffins, and glitches - why should they offer anything more?
I never trusted Xbox 360. I've never had a problem with my PS3 and it's years old- hell, my PS2 still works like new and that's really old. I guess you really 'get what you pay for' in Japan.
My 360 has actually outlasted both my PS2 and my DS... it's kinda weird actually...
AMEN to that bro
what the heck are you talking about?? i bought my xbox secondhand and the original owner said he bought it on the release day, and mine only got the ring once. microsoft sent me a brand new one for free. they said they will send any person a new one if they got the red ring. i didnt even have a warranty on it. the only reason red rings even happen is from some glue holding a chip melting from overheating (the intercoolers increase rick of it)
Enjoy your $15-20 DLC extra, 360 owners.
But I have to sympathize with you, this is pretty fucked up. They give you the game first, which certainly warrants a little bragging, then later give it to the PS3 with seemingly everything included, and now they are likely going to make you pay more money just to be equal to the PS3 content.
I hope it becomes DLC, if it doesn't that'll just piss me off even more. Seeing as how Eternal Sonata's PS3 extra content is non-existent on the 360. >.>
You 360fags sure got told
360fags? What type of insult is that... seriously wtf?
Anyway its not about being a fanboy or fangirl Its just the system we prefer or could afford, theres no reason for you to be asses and make fun of or look down us because of the console we play.
See this is the whole fanboyism issue that goes on everywhere, its annoying as heck and needs to be taken care of. We are all gamers why cant we just get along, its not like we all didnt start out the same, so why the fuck treat eachother differently just because the console we play isnt the one you chose, doesnt that make you seem a bit immature???
Seriously gamers need to quit looking down on eachother just because of exclusive games and what system someone uses, its just immature and proves how much of a life someone doesnt have.
Butthurt xbox
Ahhhh, that would make sense I gues, and its nice to know that someone agrees with me for once. =3
I think he meant you were trolled.
Btw, I agree with your thinking.
Troll? Yea... right, I am not a troll I was just trying to get my point across, and if you cant see that then you are obviously blinder than a bat. <_<
Actually no I dont have a preference of system I buy the system for the games I want and if there is a system I dont have with a game I want I buy it, its not a matter of the system to me, its my preference in the games on the system.
I couldnt honestly give a shit if the PS3 has more to it than the 360, or if the 360 has a game the 360 doesnt, I just want these stupid console wars to end. The systems have been out for three fucking years now. You would think people would get over themselves and just enjoy what they have, but oh no people have to be asses to eachother just because of the damn console they play.
Seriously I am not a fanboy of anything realted to gaming, I play what I liek and dont give a shit what other say about it, I mean seriously why the hell should you even comment on the console I play or the games I play. And hell when a game comes out for the PS3 that I must play I will end up buying one not like I really give a shit.
Your not playing it so you honestly dont have a right to tell me I am in the wrong or make fun of me for the console I own, like I said its immature and proves how much of a life someone doesnt have.
So no I am not a "butthurt Xbox" I am just a gamer that is tired of seeing all the shit that goes on between fanboys!
Textbook trolling, right here. Two words = five paragraph rebuttal. Honestly, it brought a tear to my eye.
Butthurt consolefags...
Again with someone saying I am butthurt.... seriously. I never stated ONCE that I was pissed the Tales of Vesperia was going to the PS3, honestly I am happy that my friends that own a PS3 will get to experience the game, import or not.
I am happy with my 360 version thank you very much.
You need to chill out and ignore trolls >_>
I myself am an Xbox 360 owner, I couldn't care less if every single exclusive went to the PS3, I do care when the PS3 version gets more out of a game then the 360
Especially as ToV isn't even out where I live yet
Ok Artefact we get the point, can we move on? This got old awhile ago.
Naw, just let the PS3 owners gloat a bit more plz ^^
I dunno...Although I own a PS3, the "console war" makes me feel bad. I guess Artefact shouldn't tease so much, this will only further worsen the dispute between 360 and PS3 users.
Teasing Xbox 360 owners = massive hits. Just look at what Jin is doing on Ore-teki, and there aren't even any Japanese Xbox owners.
How could you compare yorself to him.
He teases both PS3 and XBOX360 users according to different situations for fun, and I think it's very enjoyable to watch because he doesn't mean anything serious.
However, you are just way too radical.
Not to mention jin115 owns both PS3 and 360!
Artefact, I don't want to say this, but you are start giving people bad impressions of you. As a regular visitor of your site, I don't want to see that :(
Nothing we can really do.....as long as there's different consoles, there will always be console wars.
Not to mention the amount of jealousy exclusive releases generate.......
There's a lot you can do.
Choosing not to gloat is a good start. Choosing not to partake in the demeaning of 360 owners is a second.
You may have been jealous of exclusives that the 360 had but there's no reason to behave like a deprived RPG fan.
But what's good for teasing back and forth? At least we could help by just stay back and watch, or rather have a discussion...Peacefully.
Considering how 360 fanboys love to rub ps3 owners in the face whenever they get an exclusive on the 360, I don't understand why it can't work the other way when ps3 gets a game with more content than 360.
You casually offend lots of other 360 owners who in no way did you any disservice by choosing to gloat and demean 360 owners in general.
There may be nasty 360 owners out there. But why do you want to be nasty to every 360 owner just because you felt slighted in the past?
Artefact you should really consider getting treatment for your obsession with 360 owners. Drawing pleasure from demeaning people because you felt deprived in the past is not good for your psyche.