A pair of ladies, apparently a mother and her daughter, thought they would take a commemorative photo under the blooming sakura at a Chinese park whilst tastefully attired in kimono, but were soon thronged by a jeering crowd who ordered them out.
The unhappy crowd formed about the would-be hanami-goers, who were both Chinese, patriotically shouted “Get out, Japanese!” and “Stop taking photographs wearing those!”
Cowed, the pair quickly moved off, changed to some less outrageous costume, and left the place.
A reporter caught up with them, and asked why they would do such an unpatriotic thing; “We just wanted to take a photo in the clothes, because they’re quite beautiful, that was all” replied the humbled pair.
A young lady who witnessed the ruckus remarked “Japanese clothing certainly is beautiful, but it’s Japanese isn’t it, so people who see it are naturally going to be offended. Those two were a bit strange, weren’t they?”
Via Heaven.
Taking one’s pet daughter for a walk, beating one’s errant wife in the street, or skinning and eating people’s cats may pass without confrontation in China, but clearly an act as foul as wearing Japanese clothing cannot be tolerated.
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The two ladies are Chinese, and the people who hate the two knew the fact.
I think that this is the reason why there exist racism in China.
They hate not only Japanese military but also all of Japanese things even if those are purely cultural things.
gosh imagine how it would be for different cultures to wear their clothes in america >.<
they could have just worn a qui-pao those are cute too
Jesus there's a lot of comments...
A lot of Japanese deny what Japan did in China in WW2. Most Japanese still enshrine those war criminals in Yasukuni Shrine as "heroes": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasukuni_Shrine#Enshrinement_of_war_criminals
That's why we still can't forgive Japanese. Don't tell me the German and European crap. If you were a Jew, tell me how would you feel if German still enshrined Adolf Hitler as "a hero of Germany"?
Yeah it is rather distasteful. Though, to be honest, I think the Japanese have too much ultra-nationalism due to the restrictive nature of the McArthur era constitution. But anyways, It seems neither China nor Japan wants to move on , so Id say let them continue their quarrel with each other. If they dont want to act like mature nations, then let them wallow in their own filth, figuratively speaking.
Thread is over. Next -> LOLI. Don't miss the shoot, Artefact.
can't ppl forget about what happan in the past and move on to a better furture
shalala there start rascit first
ZOMG:
to all the people who want to explain the history or the actual attitude of japan: IT´S COMPLETE SENSELESS!
Japanophile weaboos won´t listen to you. So just save your time and watch some porn.
In addition to the chinafags: This forum is on the same level as 4 chan, so do not get offended by such shit.
This isn't a forum. Your credibility ends there.
It has nothing to do with credibility, but only the facts that you people are complete RETARDS to talk about political issues when some retarded scumbags pretend to be patrots, while they just want to bully someone.
I find it funny how a country like America can white wash all its war atrocities just because it won the war. But when it comes to Japan, who lost the war, apologies are mandatory.
To the victor, the spoils.
History is written by the victors.
Ever heard of those two phrases before? If America lost the War for Independence, we would have been nothing more than traitors to the British Empire, and would probably be as royally fucked (pun not really intended but I like) as the other former colonies Australia and Canada.
Though I am not quite sure what you mean about our war atrocities.
Now how did I know this place would be a shitstorm.
And Japan not being the only place in Asia with racism, who would have thought?
Heck yes for the Weeaboo West?
thx for the bawww guys, i've learned many new phrases to use vs my opponents, keep 'em coming!
Fucking naggers.
FUCK I HATE WEEABOOS SO FUCKIN MUCH YOU MOTHERFUCKERS
why are you here then?
fuck off back to your /b faggotry.
cancer, aids, die in a fire etc...
Well its kinda like how you can't dress up as adolf hitler in a jewish school.
Yes, like wearing the uniform of ONE German leader is the same as parting in one traditional aspect of another country that has origins in the clothing of YOUR country.
I'm sure there are plenty of Yiddish Ashkenazi Jews who are still fond somehow of German clothing, and would wear it.
Japan did what it did up through World War II because it was pretty much a facist and imperialist country that would harshly silence dissent from its own citizens. It isn't now. Things got better.
Mainland China is now a nation that acts pretty much facist and imperialist up to a point, only they claim not to be on account of being "Communist" and a "Peoples Republic". It never was a true "Peoples Republic" and stopped trying to be Communist in the 1980s.
PS: It is true that mainland chinese are way to comfortable with shitting in public or hocking fat loogies in fancy department store elevators while wearing Prada or Christian Dior. I know American born Chinese who've been to China and witnessed the horror.
How about this: Japan makes a formal apology to China for its actions in WW2 and puts Nanking in the history books and China stops bringing it up. There's nothing productive that can possibly come out of all this bickering. There are no major territorial disputes between the two countries (aside from some over a few islands and fishing/natural resource rights) and they do a lot of trade together. Same with Korea.
The only reason people are like this is because it's easier to spit venom at foreigners and outsiders than to look to your own nation's problems and try to solve them. We Americans do it, the Chinese do it, the Russians, so on. It's one of the reasons the world is a shitty place to live.
i have to ingeminate.
few people like those university men’s action.
You can check it in any Chinese bbs!
we just argue against your stupid comment about China and WW2.
Screw it im bombing china!!
Do it and die, asshole.
As a Chinese American who lost many during ww2 at the hands of the Japanese, I can forgive. It was hard at first because I was fed this and that from my relatives but the reality of it is. That this hate gets you no where. The only thing I hate is those who hurt there own people. In the last few years Japan has done very little to hurt its own people while China continues to do so. From the abuse of the Tibetan Monks to what Mao did to his own people. Even if Japan did apologies to me I doubt I would care. Its been so long since it happen and all China has to go on is it's false pride and its over controlling Government.
Uhm it's not as if ALL china people don't like Japanese. Like what some people say above "you shouldnt generalise the entire population", same applies to the China Chinese.
It's more of the older generations, afterall, they DID experience the war. The rape of Nanking / NanJing was beyond words (not to mention murder too). It was just plain horrible.
In fact in China you get some of the most awesome cosplays ever. OKAY i know it's not exactly related but it does show the love for Japan some China chinese have.
Oh yes and another reason why some China Chinese still hate the Japanese so much is also their refusal to include their war deeds into their history textbooks. So basically the younger generations all do not know about the rape of nanjing etc
Then again, the china chinese only teaches the good about their country too lol.
Very balanced points. +1
stupid brainwashed chinese. mao killed somewhere between 40-100 million people, but the chinese government use nanjing to stoke nationalist fires, thereby distracting the people.
Look!
who was brainwashed!
and who is evil!!!
an evil rumormonger!
our grandpas are still alive.
THX!
So what, a Chinese person can't hate Mao AND the Japanese people?
the chinese still pissed because they used to bully, invade and enslave the rest of aisa for thousands of years. But the japan became stronger than them and treat them like how they treat their neighbors, so their fucking pride would not let them swallow it.
China never invade any country.
"But the japan became stronger than them and treat them like how they treat their neighbors, so their fucking pride would not let them swallow it."
did u read any history books?
You'd better check these picture from Yasukuni Shrine.
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/a0909/pic/item/b7b84d16ae49235020a4e9ad.jpg
Kids!!!!!!
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/a0909/pic/item/0db95f3d9bfc35f43d6d97ad.jpg
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/a0909/pic/item/774d02f31ba217d10a46e0a2.jpg
http://hiphotos.baidu.com/a0909/pic/item/7eaf5ae73abd4334b93820ad.jpeg
That just "Ancestor reverence"!?
you are naive or evil?
"the chinese still pissed because they used to bully, invade and enslave the rest of aisa for thousands of years. "
haha, go read a book, idiot. you spend too much time on anime
obvious troll is obvious
Let this simply be a reminder to most of us of the danger of radical nationalism everywhere in the world. Each nation has their own sob stories, some go back thousands of years and some happened just yesterday, there is no end to conflicts if we want to count them all. If those mother and daughter were really Japanese, couldn't one also reason that they'd then "naturally" think that "the Chinese are racist and barbaric"? Are they not "justified" in thinking so after receiving such treatment? What would happen to this world if even more of us conveniently and "naturally" reciprocate such hatred? It's too easy to just conveniently and "naturally" give in to our simple, impulsive cognitive bias, to just impose our ideologies onto others in the most unrestrained ways. It's too easy to just be a Chinese, a Japanese, a Korean, an American, whatever, and take on the burden of histories, but too coward to be a good PERSON.
I think this topic is more into political affairs but all i can say is, "Welcome to the virtual world where the educated and uneducated PC users clashed on their beliefs and make other people's lives more miserably chaotic and orderly alike." So there.Ignorance and knowing too much of the culture and beliefs are truly worth entertaining than watching insane celebrities talk about their boring lives on reality TV.Maybe I'm more of the leftist side but i respect everybody's voices.It always made my day.Now can't we just get along and start condemning prejudices?
haha if I must compare I'd choose insane celebrities over this. Insane celebrities would remain insane celebrities but this kind of contagious hatred can easily spiral into National Socialism or the like, which is not a very entertaining thought. Madness takes hold of people before we even realize.
Those comments with hatred and grudge just scare me.
I don't know if they are the reflection of patriotism or nationalism, but they seem to be abnormally aggressive.
Agreed. Sometimes it seems that people are just using incidents like these as excuses for them to vent their own racial hatred. As if it could ever be justified.
don't pretend Chinese.
“abuse of the Tibetan Monks”!?
do you know what status they have in China!?
don't think everything with your own world view.
about the truth of tibetan, you'd better check more articles. you didn't know anything about it.
Chinese oppose you because Tibetan are our family.
and you cheer for slave owner!
riot in 3.14 not noly killed Han Chinese, they killed Tibetan also.
every our han people meet Tibetan people every day, and none of them support riot.
you can see many Tibetan singer stars.
We are Chinese.
Tibetan civilians love Mao, and slave owners hate gov.
you just cheer for the descendants of slave owner in your country and ignore Tibetan civilians in mainland China.
sad...
The only thing I hear from Chinese mainlanders about Tibet is basically "We civilized those ungrateful savages by taking over their country!" White imperialists from America, France, and England said the same bullshit a hundred years ago. It was bullshit then, and bullshit now no matter who says it. Only China claims to not do anything in the name of Empire like the white people a hundred years ago. China is imperialist too. Like a gay man in the closet.
Yeah, I'd better go read more Chinese state-sponsored media and histories to get to the truth.
Look, I'm not one of these FREE TIBET people - though I do think the Tibetans should have cultural freedoms, as should all ethnic/religious minorities. The Chinese government hasn't been willing to safeguard those freedoms. If they were willing to give the Tibetans (and the Uighurs, etc.) more autonomy, the government would be able to undermine the separatist groups in those regions and maintain China's territorial integrity. How can anyone argue with that?
无耻。
你不是也在胡扯你自己的世界观么？“truth"? 别滥用这些词。
"Tibetan civilians love Mao" 你能代表所有Tibetans的观点么？荒谬。你又知道多少？你亲身体验过么？你明白汉人和少数民族之间的冲突么？别以为在这虚伪的“社会主义”旗帜下，中华人民共和国只有“中国人”。
你亲身体验过吗？我生活的周围有那么多藏人，为什么我就不知道？
你明明是一个什么都没经历过的人却对一个有诸多经历的人进行怀疑，实在可笑。
为什么汉人被打杀的视频那么多，而你们连一个藏人被害的图片都没有？
你能说出哪怕一个中国政府对少数民族不好的地方吗？
你根本就没有一点证据，而是事实你只要查看哪怕一点证据就可以知道努力主们在西藏干了什么。
为什么我身边那么多藏人平民的后代没人支持３１４，而你们这些人却跟着奴隶主的后代叫嚣！？
而你们的新闻机构为什么却需要用大量虚假的图片与信息来拨弄民意？
你们情愿相信那些拙劣的作假，却不愿哪怕一秒倾听那些普通中国人的声音。
你们情愿相信奴隶主的话，却对平民恶语相向。
承认吧，你根本就不愿相信在＂罪恶的中国＂不可能对民众有一丝善行。
你看看在海外无数上街抗议你们Free Tibet的留学生，有几个盲目支持政府的？他们大多在BLOG里对时政，政府进行批驳，但为什么在这件事情上如此统一！？
如果你愿意，请去搜索中国关于西藏更多的内容，那些“有真凭实据”的内容。
如果你只是希望给你心目中“罪恶的中国”寻找注脚，那么请继续。
当然不能代表所有西藏人,因为还有被打到被赶跑的奴隶主和他们的狗崽子们!
The japan always stay inside he country never get out that why thier people dont know what is racsit make people feel !!!! there so stupid never learn much only talk japanaise go learn some orther langugue stupid jap
Also, another thing..
I notice something, it seems like this site is a bit biased..against the chinese.
yeah sure it's japan focused site anyway. Great site for japan-cultures and stuff
People say it's non-intended, infact most people don't even realize, since we all just here to chilax, no body cares...
Is it really just non-intended? lol.....
The person that runs this site has a paranoid hatred of China AND Korea.
The people that cheer him on are just little kids that don't know any better.
Is Artefact japanese then? Cos I don't understand why someone would hate those two races so much unless they had some sort of nationalistic history.
What I don't understand is that there are so many guys here that are not even in china, not related to it, or been to the damn place.Yet they comment like they know the contry for so long...WTF?
I bet you these are the guys that still questions:"Do chinese eat dogs?"
ROFLMAO
Yeah yeah...for a guy outside of this, it's damn easy to leave a whole bunch of bullshit and walk away.
just wanna to say, don't put all your anti-chinese anger here with some sort of disguise as"They are all racist",or "Chinese are evil"
You hate chinese, you say it out loud and clear. There isn't really a need to hide your god damn opinion about it. We all know the western propaganda and their world hated chinese for a long time..
Ask yourself a question before you hate Chinese.
What have they done to you to make you dislike them so much? Just because the way you think they are? the way media told you about them?
back to this cosplayer matter.
They're just bunch of jap-influenced girls with passion in japanese culture- nothing wrong with that.
It's the place, the time they choose to express their compassion about the culture that's wrong.
To the non-chinese groups here.
Why those Chinese hates japanese, and won't let past go.Is because they are simply the victim of propaganda. I don't mean the government is doing something like totally harming against them. A country needs spirit, we all do.
People say we must let the past go.
But the people who won't let the past go isn't just chinese. Look at Japanese, don't just be blinded by their all fancy sub-cultures. They also remembers what happened in WWII,infact some of the left-wing party are still promoting emperilism amongst Japan's society. They'll never forget, coz they are japanese. When a japanese loses his fight, he'll have that hatred hidden well.
Things that are minior causes major impact, like changing history books. Sure that's stupid, since we can't change the past. But at least they are attempting..
No one steps down on this matter. Therefore hatred continues to grow, and won't stop untill one side is gone.
It's good to let things "GO". But you can't hide the truth, you can't change the truth.And when you trys to twist truth, shit happens. That's the reason why japanese pissed off chinese so bad recently.
One last thing. Please just don't brag about western's "Freedom of human right", and emphisis on the idea that China has" no human right, no freedom"
If there is no human right, no freedom, how do those poor bastard live? Do a crime rate comparsion and you'll know why the Chinese government are "Brutal".
Human Right?What a complete bunch of rubbish. On this planet, and I mean every single contry ever existed in history - there is not a single contry that allowed total freedom in terms of democratic standard.
what? death sentence is violation of human right?
how about everyone becomes criminial and just do what ever they want? because this is"oh no, you are violating my human right for arrest me!" kind of situation?
Come on, that's not even a funny joke. No matter which contry, the propaganda is always the top priority for governments to deal with in media.
Don't think China is the only f***** contry in the world with "Total Media Control".
And please, stop using western standard for everything in this world. Fitting onto that stupid image just isn't working.
It's like, when alien comes to earth, you gonna expect them to speak english and no other language?
lol
Wake up from the dream that the planet is dominated by the western world....we all the same in the end.
So just enjoy the anime news and stuff...no need for discuss this kind of dump topic.
在这里发中文的....你只会被人耻笑。（我也包括在内）
这些外国人当然不会明白，也不想去明白。只是抱有着西方长久以来的“优越感”来发表观点。
你如果是那种一定要争得，我只能告诉你，放弃吧。
您说得对!而且原先的仇恨是可以消失的,如果不是日本人不承认事实的话,我们都会原谅日本,但是可恶的是,他们篡改历史课本,而且还不尊重历史,让自己对中国的私仇一代代传承下去,真是可恶!
你们说够了吗?说够了就滚回你们的国家去向你们的政府发牢骚吧,你们骂吧,只有白种人才来歧视我们中国人?我们一样看不起你们这些用民族主义来说事的人,你们说我们是种族主义,那你们何尝不是呢?是,我不用英文,那又怎样,打出来就是我的事情,与你们无关,你们现在不就是借此来骂中国么?而且,这是我们的分内事,容不得你们这些蠢蛋来说!你们说我们中国人野蛮,那你们呢?你们有反省嘛?像你们现在的样子就很对很了不起?嘴巴很厉害啊,那我也只好以牙还牙了,这里有华人吧,那些看不起人的美国人,欧洲人,你们很了不起是吧,你们从来没有这些事情?真是太有才了!欧洲人,你们就文明的拿着枪,跑到中南美去"优待"土著人吧!看看到底谁才是野蛮人!
一个中国人
first of all, not all commentors here are europeans, second, don't think because you are writting chinese means no one can read it, third, speaking those nonsense without proper evidence or proves only disgrace you as a chinese from mainland, there is freedom of speech on the net, people can say whatever they want, perhaps you want to use your chinese dictator-ship on the net to block this site as well?
by the way, 无风不起浪，事出必有因，try to think the reason behind people giving such comment, not shouting or scolding others base on your rage, thats the only thing uncivilized people would do.
谢谢你的提醒
我并不是说这里没人看得懂中文
但是我不想那些人对着我的祖国说脏话,歧视我们的祖国,总之真是非常的感谢你,我相信你是个明白事理的人,如果要给意见,当然可以,但是我不想他们用难听的话来说,我很受不了,您也可以理解我的心情了吧,总之大家就不要说了,这件事暂停下来,过去的就让它过去吧
Meh?
For fuck's sake, why the hell was this thing even posted? All we've got now is a ten-page long argument between pro-Chinese/Korean people and pro Japanese people.
Just because the Japanese Government apparently apologized, doesn't mean that people are going to forgive them.
Sure, maybe telling people that wear kimonos to get out of the part was overboard. But who the hell in that park gave a rat's ass about fairness?
Things will NEVER be (completely) buddy-buddy between the people of Japan and the people of China, and the Japanese people in general suck when it comes to the topic of WWII.
I mean, come on! The Japanese government at that time wanted to get land for the purpose of feeding its citizens. Looking at Manchuria (a peice of China's land), the government thought to itself that Manchuria would be an excellent peice of land to use for Japanese purposes.
And then they invaded it. And some other parts of China. Whose people got raped, killed, and tortured for funsies (Nanjing Massacre).
And all the Chinese people get is an apology.
By the way, to the people who say that the Chinese people are racist, look at the fucking Japanese army at that time. They were taught that Chinese people were not human, so it was okay to slaughter them like animals.
It is not 'time for Chinese people to get over what the Japanese did to them', and since when did netizens and selected members of the general populace get to decide when it was 'time'?
And to all those people who are saying the the Chinese government is blinding the people: guys, people can READ. There's a link, for goodness's sake.
HERE HERE, but I, being Chinese I do hope that we can forget and try to forgive. The problem is Chinese ppl just don't forget so soon, we have the longest written history in the world for one reason, cause we don't forget. The sad thing is, we don't forgive easily too, when u tick u off, believe it our children will go after yours. That's just the way, and I'm proud, cause our will is left to the younger generations. To keep the hate is in a way to show that we care about those who came before us, that's the way we see it.
Besides, people here should visit a history museum in Japan, they claim Pearl Harbor was not a sneak attack. SERIOUSLY, they rewrote WW2, and that's the main fuel that piss us off.
Actually Japanese re-wrote history in their textbooks. They claimed Nanking was a fabrication made up by the Chinese.
read this article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/223038.stm
pathetic humans
What? Booing Kimonos and cherry blossoms?
China, I don't think we can be friends.
Comment by Narcissist
23:07 22/03/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)
Apparently Nanking needs to be raped some more for those peons to understand which country is the superior one.
Reply this Idiot Narcissist
This is probably why the Japanese are still occupied by the Americans and their many American bases in Japan,Japanese are superior in only one aspect and that is their cruelty their sexual depravity to their women,girls,children,school students upper and lower school,Japanese are just animals and will always be so,also you are a dying race with an ageing population,many of these would be the persons responsible for many of the cruel acts mentioned in these comments,The very next time that Japan steps out of line with its inhuman and cruel acts of genocide or other indiscretions,you will be totally crushed like the filthy cockroaches that you are.Qunli
Look I'm like reading the comments and some people need more empathy on the situation. The ones in the article making the jeering are probably the older generation who have went through hell. Before I read any more crap that "they should get over it" you must first understand what the Japanese did that was so atrocious and how they have shamelessly ignored what they did and rewritten history in their history books. The apologetic statements were made by politicians- but if you actually read a Japanese history textbook they omit alot of things that happened in WW2. The Rape of Nanking. . . the streets were red with blood. It was genocide. http://www.cnd.org/njmassacre/
and WARNING! gruesome pics: http://www.cnd.org/njmassacre/page1.html
The Japanese made the chinese digs holes of their own graves and bury them alive. Made fathers have sex with their daughters in front of the family and then kill them afterwards. Acts like these can cause hatred for generations that is hard to forget for the older generation.
It is the younger generation who is highly influenced by the western cultures and not tied down by the past that are open. Bother older generation of Japanese and Chinese are racist to each other.
I can't believe I actually read through most of the comments. Well, as the old saying goes, "forgive but never forget." In the case of Japan and China, it's a matter of "forgetting" for the Japanese and "not forgiving" for the Chinese. Herein lies the problem.
Those of you who think all Chinese are as blatantly racist as the individuals in this article are just as ignorant as those of you who think the said racism is justified. Then again, this is the internets. Well, fuck.
Sooo we are not allowed to wear what we want anymore??(BTW I am not japanese)
well, i do understand it, but they don't have to shoo them away. Then again, the two could have gone at a different time...
You're all fucking stupid
It should not be tolerated. Japan is inferior.
It's comments like this that fuel the flames of hate. I'm not taking sides here, but I think both countries should just learn to get along.
i believe the muslim have the same treatment if they are in america or any parts in western
people do have different mind set
muslim having beard = terorist
chinese wearing kimono = unpatriotic
japanese wearing a dark veil = taliban
japanese wearing burqha = ZOMG! Ninja cosplay!!
As a Chinese person myself, I find it ridiculous that the Chinese people mentioned in the article would react so angrily at something as trivial as wearing bad cosplay-like kimono.
However, as many pointed out, WII is something many people have yet to forget. Had Japan owned up like Germany did and taken the necessary actions, I'm quite sure the reactions to those two ladies would be significantly different. My grandfather gripes about the lack of respect Japan has for the Chinese a lot, mostly because he was directly involved with the war and went through a lot of shit.
Those who were actually involved in the war, such as my grandfather, usually say they'd like to see just a few things: 1) That the Japanese teach that part of history to their children properly, and 2) that the heads of government would stop visiting Yasukuni shrine.
Asian countries are more sensitive to symbolism in the actions of others, therefore they think that the visiting of Yasukuni symbolizes the Japanese "spitting on the Chinese". This is kind of a big deal over in China, with the pride stuff and what not.
Anyway, stop mouthing off at Japan and China and act more like adults. Both countries have done wrong and both countries have been hurt. There is no absolute when it comes to discussions like these, so stop acting like racist bigots. It's ironic that racists are criticizing others for being racist, but they just can't see that they're doing the exact same thing themselves!
Also, I find Artefact's comments disconcerting. You say that China is full of propaganda, but doesn't the fact that you are posting these articles to make a point about how much you think China sucks make you the same as them?
Are journalists/article writers/etc typically supposed to be so blatantly biased? (Well, this place has the credibility of 4chan, so I suppose this argument wouldn't really fly...)
By WII I meant WWII.
Another tedious Chinese complaint? Your ranting has no weight whatsoever - go and look at the articles about Japan published here and tell me if they put Japan in a favourable light. Such news is what interests people, I don't post it to try to make a point about China.
Critical reporting is not the same thing as bias...
1.Have you ever been to China, for actually ONCE perhaps, in your whole life? Or is that place too much of a murdering slaughterhouse for you to contend visiting?
2.Have you ever talked to a Chinese, from CHINA, and asked him for his thoughts on Japan, racism or anything for that matter?
3.Do you realize that talking SHIT (which you claim you do not, lol) without 1 and 2 is, actually, being utterly rude and ignorant?
4.You are a pathetic, attention-begging VIRGIN fag dissing people who can't even argue due to not having proper English skills, and whose value will most likely be proven as a cumbag for the male of all species.
And oh yeah,"I don’t post it to try to make a point about YOU.
Critical reporting is not the same thing as bias…")
I doubt you even read the bulk of my comment, which states that the attitudes taken by any of the people here are insignificant compared to people involved in the war, and that those people who were actually alive during the war are less senselessly racist (at least after the war was over) than the people commenting here.
Unfortunately, you do try to make a point about China being fucked up and/or a shitty country with your comments and your replies to comments, which turns what was initially "critical reporting" into something entirely different.
In other words, go ahead and post these articles (which are quite amusing in of themselves), but either scrap the heavily biased commenting or stop pretending that you're neutral in regards to these topics.
I would have to say I agree with Anonynonymous on this one. You run a wonderful site Artefact, but I too feel that sometimes your comments on these china-related articles are a little one-sided.
The above comment was fairly balanced and stated that both Japan and China were in the wrong, yet it seems that just because Anonynonymous is ethnically Chinese that meant you had to chastise his comment outright. What if I was chinese? Would that make all my comments automatically defunct? It just doesn't make any sense.
What a war zone here from Chinese extremist's comments...
Why they react everything so adnormally angry?
Why they are so sensitive?
They can only accept compliment?
Just like their government control channel CCTV, always good news just like paradise....
Artefact: you are so wrong because you expected their mind wide like other civilized countrys..but you learn from all this reaction......
Their mind set is :
" IF YOU LOVE YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR RACE...THEN NEVER SAY ANY NEGATIVE ABOUT YOUR GOVERNMENT & COUNTRY "
" IF SOMEONE SAY...AGAINST THEM BY ANY MEAN "
I love this site because we all just want to relax...but those peoples really disturbing my mood indeed...
I'm sorry to disturbing your mood also...
you are rigth the japan have more prone !! then china isaw every manga have pron inside !!
Wonderful how articles about China quickly degenerates into a contest to see who can talk the most shit about each other's countries.
Yeah guys, complaining how crappy the other country is doesn't negate the faults of your own country. Especially when most of you just talk out from your limited knowledge of the whole situation.
Agreed. I didn't even know that the Japanese government issued an apology.
"hey you! your great-great-greatx100 grandfather killed my great-great-greatx100 grandfather's dog! now you're gonna pay for it! knee down now and pay me bazillions of $$$ now lolz!!!"
50 years later....
"hey you! your great-great-greatx101 grandfather killed my great-great-greatx101 grandfather's dog! now you're gonna pay for it! knee down now and pay me bazillions of $$$ now lolz!!!"
I am full Chinese and I am not racis-erk! Fuck the Japs! Some of them, at a period of time, killed and mistreated some Chinese, and now I so freaking hate all Japs!
Jap hate is rather common in China, just hope the old die, and the new forget.
later alot chinese will invasion in japanaise you gonna see !!!!
Not if Chinese manufacturers and government keeps on poisoning their own citizens. Unless you mean an invasion of Chinese immigrants or refugees.
i guess there is still hate within asian countries. chinese hating on japanese and whatnot.
man they got problems. so would it be ok for a chinese girl to wear a chinese outfit and prance around in japan's streets and not get yelled at?
Japanese people aren't animals.
I think everybody on this planet is an animal, and as why it be more okay for Chinese outfit in Japan. Well the Chinese didn't do a damn thing to them in WW2. Not much an army can do when you're so out class. Kind of like America vs Vietnam.
If you're somehow implying that China is some sort of peace-loving country you really should stop taking the crap the Chinese government gives you at face value.
sorry i mean season III
Ah religion and national pride...they call them idiotisims for nothing...
they don't.....
gaaaa I think I just managed to fail twice with that one ><
I really really hate the word patriotic/patriot/patriotism...this is one of the reason why...
Don't hate the word, only the concept. And who says that patriotism is bad? It's not, blind patriotism is bad though. I would say this is blind patriotism at it's nitpicking finest.
some people need to differentiate between racial mocking and non-political products....
There are a lot of people still angry with the Japanese invasion of China, particularly people who might have had relatives slaughtered like dogs. There's a reason why people still have anger towards them. When they hear about war memorials that still glorify massacres, it's not hard to understand why this might have happened.
Such propaganda certainly dissuades them from questioning the atrocities and territorial aggression their own government has been involved in.
what?
so you mean the civilians there at that time should be massacred and their relatives should just feel wonderfully pleasant to see the massacre being honored even today ,just because their goverment had once done the same/or had once killed(tho i doubt very much if its true,even if there's death its never the innocent civilians and never the quantity of people,never the way ja had fun with)?
your ridiculous idea and the so-called unbiased,never-racist mind once again amused me.
tho i never thought the movement here in the news is anything worth praising,but,hey,plz take a look at the number of ja doing travel to china annually you'll find how this thing is,
i mean, you cant expect 1.3 billion to be as perfect people as some of the guys writing comments of "forget past,move,etc" here ,right?
By setting others as a potential enemy, a group can obtain at least four advantages:
1)generate solidarity among the members of the group
2)give vent to public criticism and frustration
3)justify the group's authority and its domination
>japa is actually one of the most important importers >of the “made in china” goods as well as a good >cooperative partner in many areas for china
Yes, indeed in `commercial` sense (not in political or strategic sense).
You do have a point I feel. I think it's ridiculous for others to comment "forget and move on". That's just being retarded - if you forget it, then it may and will happen again.
then in the same way it's not ok to blame the two guys there booing the 2 kimono-wearers off, especially given the attitude japan is now taking towards the killing.
to move on dose not mean to forget or unconditionally forgive
which in my opinion is just cowardice
"Past holds important lessons for us all. To move on would be to invite repetition."
Yes, because getting stuck in the past and clinging to old grudges, instead of dealing with them (which doesn't mean forgetting them) and moving on doesn't invite repetition. *sarcasm*
you dont read what people write do you?
dont reply to me if you didnt read what i wrote.
something to think about:
Well its common for politicians to transfer the hate on innocent people, we learned this in WW2. Its sad that chinese fall for the same trap.
No one says "forget and move on," simply "move on." There's a difference. Or what, should Europe still ostracize Germany, Italy, Russia, etc? It's been sixty years. It's already the past.
well its ok to blame the dead japanese soldiers and never forget what they did.
its not ok to blame 3-4 generations after that, or your own people for wearing a piece of cloth.
Past holds important lessons for us all. To move on would be to invite repetition.
>co
then what good is there for the chinese politicians to "transfer the hate" on their people?
japa is actually one of the most important importers of the "made in china" goods as well as a good cooperative partner in many areas for china
I doubt there is even _one_ ethnic community that fully realizes their own hypocrisy.
So I'm supposed to pretend people in my family weren't killed brutally and needlessly and hold hands with Yasakuni-visiting Japs?
I know what you are saying, but what gets me is the Japanese attitude towards it. There is no remorse.
It is incredibly offensive for those of us who had family affected by Japanese militarism, when many prominent Japanese and places like the Yasakuni Shrine OPENLY claiming that the only reason that Japan invaded most of Asia in WW2 was to 'liberate' and 'modernise' Asia.
Sick and disgusting.
And thus the racism propagates. Yay! You know, you should come over to the US and spend some time with the KKK, skinheads, and those who still think the "war of northern aggression" is still not over. You'll sure gain a lot of skills for what appears to be your goal in life.
Just a question, though. Should all Vietnamese hate all Americans for My Lai, Agent Orange, etc.? THOSE atrocities were committed only 30 years ago. Should all of Western Europe hate all Germans for the rest of time? I bet you say "no" to all those, but hypocritically think you are still in the right.
It's just amusing, that's all. But I'm serious about the skinhead thing. I think their way of thinking can be of real help to you.
Question,
Will you forgive someone if they deny their wrongdoings?