China Pirates Train

Remember what a simple chinese chair can do? I wonder what a chinese train is capable of...

I'm from germany and my uncle is or better yet was employed at Siemens. He has even been one of the leading managers in a Siemens project to build a single track and equip the chinese with a number of trains to run it. unfortunatly i cant recall where exactly in china that was. But what i'm trying to say is that this project was finally finished in 2007 after some problems with what both parties thought to be the duties of the other one according to the contract.
with that in mind it seems like quite a coincidence that they are introducing "their" newest technology right now. But at least in germany this is no big news. for years we've been hearing stories of ripped off technology and patents coming from china and the rather dubious ways the intellectual property got into chinese hands. there are even some rumors that every single case was encouraged or arranged by the chinese government.
Although i wouldnt wanna go as far as to make such accusations without any solid evidence.

not surprising if it comes from China

At least, China is better than Indonesia which even can't realize anything about transportation quality...

O!! it's not that bad. I bet all the parts that the Germans used to build the train were made in China.

Anyway we know that anything highly technological the Chinese built usually brakes up, so if you want some technological big project built perfectly there are two kind of people you can call. The Germans because they are perfectionists and the Japanese because they are really smart little bastards that never rest. The French are there because they have good trains also in this case.
The Chinese really hate Japanese so they called the Germans. Love there thinking.

That's like taking a screenshot from an anime, saying you drew it, and then trying to copyright it.

"which they proudly claim “utilises 100% Chinese owned intellectual property”, is actually designed by German and French companies (Siemens and Alstom)."

I find that a rather odd statement; during the media coverage of the Olympics, it was mentioned numerous times (on Australian TV at least) that the trains were of German design... I suppose the "proudly Chinese" part is just what they were saying domestically.

paper first show up in China. bomb first show in China.etc. whithout pirate these, u guys r still at the stone age.

oh good grief china *facepalm*

made in china = high possibility of phail =P

Unlimited Copy Works, at full strength, coming straight at you.
what's next? space shuttle?

Awesome, IP are stupid anyway, lets all copy stuff from each other so it is all fair.

Will we hear an occuring accident with this kind of train more later in China? Even if there's deaths their government won't give a damn...

fuckin chinese

thats going to derail then it comes to the corners

sheesh china really sucks mow, i'm chinese by blood by the way they keep pirating then saying we made it, china's gonna feel very sorry next time when no one wants to sell them stuffs.

sheesh china really sucks bad now they keep pirating from other countries and saying thye amd it by the way i'm chinese also by grandfather's blood. there gonna feel sorry later on when no one wants to sell them there new stuff.

funny how people believe 100% of what they read on sankaku. that is what you call ignorance or stupidity.

well to be honest, if technology is out there and is not being pushed because of greed and money then fair play to china, atleast they are evolving as a nation, the more they evolve their technology, the safer and cleaner they become, but at the same time you have companies which makes nescafe coffee and you have walmart coffee that taste the same, that doesnt make it piracy it makes it competative

Actually, aside from French, Japanese, & German company, even the Russian government are frustrated with China due to China reverse-engineering the fighter jets without their permission & then sold it to the other countries. It start off with purchases of jets, ten after halfway the Chinese gov stops the purchase saying that the jets doesn't met their requirements. Turns out they clone it, & when confronted, said that the're making readjustment to the jets.

You can find this info in Russia Today / English Russia, & thought the webs contains a bit of propaganda, I believe the Russian more than the Chinese. I just can't stand materealistic culture, you know. Disgust me.

when it's gonna explode?

"which they proudly claim 'utilises 100% Chinese owned intellectual property'"

Saying, 'this train uses 100% Chinese owned IP' is not the same as saying, '100% of this train is Chinese owned IP.' For example, Mitsubishi has provided CPU components to Dodge vehicles. It's not incorrect for them to state that a Jeep Cherokee uses 100% Japanese IP. It would be incorrect for them to state that 100% of the Jeep Cherokee is Japanese IP.

I haven't seen China make a claim suggesting that the trains are exclusively their design and their IP. The wording is tricky and likely deliberate. I'm sure that the CEO of Alstom is enraged. It's more than a bit ungracious for China to position themselves to take all of the credit for something that was a joint effort; however, it's not patently false, at least from what I've seen so far.

I thought this was talking about the Shanghai Maglev train. That was explicitly designed by the Germans..

For those wondering about the trains in question, they are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Pendolino

And the Chinese clone:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Railways_CRH5

HAH
I just knew frenc htechnologies were superior XD

You wouldn't download a train

Well well well. For those who claim that Chinese hi-tech goods are easy to break: what if I tell you that almost all nokia phones, including the most high-end smartphones, are made in China.
Stop making unjustified claims people.

Sure, the IP protection have gone to an extreme with DRM, various lawsuit tactics (threaten to sue, injunctions and etc.) and etc. etc. It's a result of of corporate greed, and one should pause for reflection on the damage done when rapacity dominates.

Nevertheless, the basic principle of IP should still stand - that one should be rewarded for their labour - the idea should be learned, otherwise, let us just wait until PRC come up with some nice gear, then we copy it and they can't say shitz about it because it's just exactly what they have done.

Ah yes, another form of piracy, this time, the Chinese decides to copy a train..I wonder, what's next...airplane?

ive never seen so many ignorant racist assholes posts in my life. some of you are fucking racist assholes. ppl like you are fucked up and a waste of life on this world.

I hope you all die for your racists behavior. fucking supremacists. Pretty sure the host of this website is racist too, specially to chinese it would seem.

Isn't this a good chance for Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft to sue China for pirating their consoles and "invented" the Chintendo Vii, Polystation 3 and the X-box362? Kinda wonder why they didn't do the same thing like how these Germans did..

What is it with the Chinese and pirating evvvveeeeeerrrrryyyy thing

their laws are so slack for a country that could do wonders

swiping some shit and calling it yours IS the greatest form of flattery

That's imprissive, stealing a whole train.

Orientals are really good at copying.

Japan copied everything from the US after WW2
Korea followed suit in the 90s-2000
Now it's china's turn on a massive scale.

Bad for the original owners but China won't mind cause this just accelerates the closing of their technological gap with most competitors.

Siemens is not known to be making smart decisions, rather the management decides whatever earns them the most money until their contract expires.

Tourist: "I wanna ride that thing! Then again.. it's china made, 100%, was it? never mind.. I'd feel SO much safer if the technology at least is imported, from german, for example.."

I wonder if the chinese knew that their stuff means "cheap crap" on global scale?