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The Pope has told Africans not to bother with condoms, as they can’t help against Aids or HIV, and just make things worse. Instead he recommends abstinence and “spiritual awakening.”

He claimed in a recently commenced visit to Africa that distributing condoms can’t help control the spread of Aids, and even goes so far as to claim that “they can even increase the problem”.

Instead of worldly latex, the Pope advocates “spiritual and human awakening” to combat the spread of the disease. He did not cite any clinical trials to support this method. The elderly German also urges sexual abstinence.

Tens of millions of Africans are already infected with HIV, so it is fortunate his flock have his wise words to guide them.

This visit comes in the context of increasing numbers of Papists on the continent, having in thirty years apparently increased 5%, to 17% of the African population.

Assuming his followers breed faster than they die from the disease, and that Muslims do not multiply even faster, his advice will doubtless ensure Catholicism’s market share increases in the coming years.

He will also be haranguing regional leaders over their corrupt and ineffective governance, and urging the continent to unite (under Christ, presumably), though he saw fit to start his visit with the weighty matter of condom usage.

Via the BBC.

You may also recall the Church was recently involved in the excommunication of a number of particularly sinful doctors



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    Comment by Carrie
    16:15 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    For some reason, now all I can think about is someone following the Pope around when he goes to talk about this, holding a "[citation needed]" sign over his head.

    Also: In b4 religious debate.

    Comment by Shanyy
    20:25 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or holding a huge banner "Captain Pickard making facepalm" over his head...

    Reply to MaimeDaifuku: I wonder, when will religion finally understand the greater good of silence.

    Also: In during religious debate... This topic have the utmost comments, lol.

    Comment by MaimeDaifuku
    16:15 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    *sigh* when will religion finally understand the greater good of science.

    Comment by MaimeDaifuku
    16:16 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    also in b4 religious debate...

    Comment by VDZ
    00:55 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's people like the pope who give religion such a bad reputation...not every Christian is completely retarded, although since those kind of people are the loudest, you'd almost think so.

    02:13 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Pope is the POPE, though. So at the very least, he is speaking for the opinions of the entire Roman Catholicism. At some point, you have to stop claiming this to be the work of the minority, and accept the fact that the comment from the Pope is the popular opinion of his people.

    He is not the loudest; he is the most powerful, and can make others do what he says. That's the difference.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:11 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "not every Christian is completely retarded, although since those kind of people are the loudest, you’d almost think so."

    ILUSM

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:56 17/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    every christian is retarded... every last one of them.

    Comment by Amak
    05:19 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I mostly blame those who blindly follow the religion (which, sadly, is a majority).

    Like a bunch of rapists are gonna practice abstinence (lol) or "spiritual awakening" (LOL!). Please...this guy needs to get out more.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:53 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Like a bunch of rapists are gonna start using more condoms if only the pope told them to...

    Comment by TheAdmiral
    23:04 10/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If they want to protect themselves from catching a crippling and fatal disease they will.

    Comment by Tex_Arcana
    09:28 04/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Living in Africa is usually a crippling and fatal disease.

    Comment by Overlord Ablade
    14:09 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    about 4 years after they stop beliving in their religion.

    Comment by Echo
    16:16 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Myself to Pope: "Shaddapa yo mout"

    Comment by MaimeDaifuku
    16:18 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the answer is Tenga Eggs.. lots of them

    Comment by Detailoid
    23:12 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wonder if Tenga would be willing to fund some as PR stunt.

    Comment by vesper_nova
    06:06 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    only if there's a proft to be had. no money, no PR stunt

    Comment by SnooSnoo
    16:24 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Religion? What religion? Last I checked, anyone who believe in an omnipotent creator who neglects the world he/she created was shot by China.

    Comment by ManaYagami
    22:29 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Unfortunately, the Chinese did a bad job. There are some millions of those left around the world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:55 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Should fix this ASAP

    Comment by Lost
    01:03 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yea relly they need to finish what they started

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:01 31/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sounds pretty good to me. But try not to kill the smart ones and the non-whory males. But quite a bit of the females can stay. :D

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:27 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe the International Court in Den Haag should take a look at this. Instigation to genocide or something.

    Comment by Psyvariar
    16:28 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh Pope-san ~ you so crazy.
    We will fight AIDS and HIV with divine ignorance. Right.

    Comment by Julius
    18:56 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is obviously a sensationalist headline.

    You must have something against the Pope Artefact, because the article says nothing about the Pope stating "condoms do nothing to preventing AIDS/HIV" but rather it says the pope said "handing out condoms is not the answer in the fight against HIV/Aids."

    I mean cmon, it's right there at the top of the article!

    Obviously the pope is saying that condoms only encourage more sex, which constitutes more risk. He also states that the correct way to solve the problem is not with money (buying condoms for these people), but with "Spiritual and Human Awakening", that is basically teaching the people the benefits of abstinence.

    I dislike religion as much as the next atheist, but that is no reason to twist words to this extent.

    And kudos to all you commenters who did not even read the article, sheep.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:10 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, because more sex _with_ condoms is more risky than less sex _without_ condoms. Especially in a place where most people carry HIV. /sarcasm

    The pope is _against_ condoms - this is a fact. The Catholic Church is against the use of contraceptives in general. They would prefer total abstinence unless you're having sex with your lawfully wed partner to make babies. What they don't want to realize is that people don't work this way, have never worked this way, and no amount of "spiritual and human awakening" is going to change that.

    Comment by xatm092
    10:37 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I kinda disagree with this, I know many many people both athiests and religious that don't want to have sex before marriage. Of course this doesn't work for everyone.

    Im sure you'll agree that no sex is the best way to stop the spread of HIV, with using condoms coming a close second. If you ignore for a second for the fact that Catholics are against condoms and pre-marital sex, and just weigh up the pros and cons, obviously less sex would be good for Africa right now. But if you can't stop them having sex, then of course, give them condoms.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:04 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah right. Cut the pope some slack here, he's not advising people to have sex without condoms so it's not his fault that HIV and overpopulation ruin the country.

    You say it's his fault because people listen to him when it comes to condoms, but it's just as much not his fault because people don't listen to him when it comes to sex.

    It's clearly the people's fault for not realizing that you should either follow his advice completely or not at all. If they think they can make up for not practicing abstinence by not using condoms either, they are clearly too stupid to be helped either way.

    Comment by Vegio
    19:17 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Obviously the pope is saying that condoms only encourage more sex, which constitutes more risk"

    how, exactly ?
    they have sex anyway. better protected, right ?
    if it is true that condoms will encourage more sex, it won't constitute more risk, since it's safer :\

    also the way artefact wrote the article is fine; he clearly stated that condoms do nothing to prevent aids, which is wrong, and also that "it will increase the problem".

    seriously, it's exactly what he said: artefact did not twist anything, and i can assure you since i saw the proper news service even more than just 1 time. it's maybe a vice of translation or whatever, but even so, changing the words do not change the content of his speech.

    pope should really learn how condoms work, before talking.
    or he could just shut the fuck up.

    Comment by Julius
    20:05 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    just to say, I don't agree with the pope at all.

    But I still stand by that this is written sensationalized and inaccurate because the BBC article never said anything about the pope saying that using condoms was bad. He said distribution (like throwing condoms of trucks) is bad (one can only assume he means that it contributes to moral decay).

    While it does not explicitly say that the pope said that condoms are good or bad (just the distribution), it does say that distribution is not the best way to prevent aids. So I think a better title would be "Pope tells Africa abstinence is better than condoms". And in that sense, even the BBC article is slightly sensationalized.

    Comment by Vegio
    20:44 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    well..
    let's put it this way:

    pope says "condoms aren't the solution to aids"
    ok. i don't completely agree, but i can see the point. you may want to say that education, abstinence are needed to eradicate the problem, since you're catholic and blablabla.
    but then, he adds: "and condoms make thing worse". in my country the news reported it something like "pope says condoms are not a solution to aids spreading, but instead it'll help it spreading".

    i wasn't there, and they didn't let us see the whole video, so i cannot say for sure.
    but still...

    Comment by Artefact
    02:19 19/03/2009 # ! Hopeful

    BBC headline: "condoms wrong".

    Comment by kebrus
    04:48 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm with you Julius

    i even went to see the news in other places (BCC included) and while i still don't agree with it what he said isn't as bad as the idea of what this article transmits

    just as an example, the phrase "they can even increase the problem" looks like it's referring to condoms when in truth is actually referring to distribution, because in fact what he said was something like "it [the distribution] can even increase the problem"...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:08 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh come on, it's just that the Jewish media want to blame world's problems on the other religions again.

    Media tells you Islam is the cause for terrorism, Media tells you Christianity is the cause for overpopulation and spread of AIDS: same thing!

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:02 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, give an African guy a condom, and he's safe from the AIDS for a day. Teach him to whack off to Animu hentai instead of having intercourse, and he's safe for life.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:28 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^You sir, are a genius.

    Especially Otaku should be able to relate to the pope's demands. I mean, isn't religion some kind of obsession in itself?

    Otaku have long proposed that it would be better for the world if people got their kicks out of obsessing over anime girls complete with collecting figures, reading official manga and doujinshi, and lots of fapping, than out of laying people they met at bars or clubs or whatever was the common method at that time.

    Catholic Christianity has long proposed that it would be better for the world if people got their kicks out of obsessing over Jesus complete with collecting crucifes, reading the bible and related fanbooks, and lots of praying, than out of laying people they met at bars or clubs or whatever was the common method at that time.

    Otakism and Christianity have lots in common. Christianity is only one step more extreme than Otakism because it implies that obsessing over Jesus could replace the physical need for sexual stimulation, while Otakism stops at implying that obsessing over anime and games can replace the physical need for social activities including 3D humans.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:10 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^ what he said

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:31 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    We need a gallery of girls holding condom packages(mostly in their teeth). It's sexy but rare.

    Comment by Geerie
    16:45 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    theyre not that rare. ive seen alot of them actually.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:28 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'll believe it when I see it. Sankaku, don't let me down! It's gallery time!

    Comment by Bloody
    01:40 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    link please

    Comment by velvet
    00:32 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Go sankaku! go!

    Comment by azzu-kun
    16:32 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    will Mikee show up here?

    Comment by Geerie
    16:42 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    doesnt he only post on unrelated articles only to kill lulz and has nothing important to say. like the viper chalenges.

    Comment by azzu-kun
    17:31 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh, yeah, i forgot.
    he doesn't show up on these kinda things

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:35 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You need low sex/birth rate? start bombing africa with Games, anime, manga, dutch wives and etc. That's a surefire way right there

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:14 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    win post

    Comment by velvet
    00:22 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So true. They need to learn the beaty of 2d. wifes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:44 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    *coat penis with holy element magic*

    *immune to diseases*

    Magic can protect niggers from AIDS!

    Comment by H8gwb
    17:35 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ouch. Good thing you're more anon than me.
    ...like AOL commentors.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:35 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hmmmm, ironic racism. Die, neckbeard.

    Comment by Sabekuji Kaneda
    16:45 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have mix feelings about this.

    I seriously believe that the Pope is wrong to say that condoms won't help decrease the number of AIDS/HIV victims. I mean, it's already been proven that condoms helps in preventing AIDS during sex.

    But I also believe that condoms alone won't stop HIV from spreading and I guess this is what the Pope really meant. Africans should learn how to restrain themselves from sexual acts if possible. "Religious guidance", proper education, government programs (that is, if the country has a government): these should teach people how to restrain themselves.

    If they just rely on the condom, then nothing will change. AIDS will still spread.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:13 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    dude, it all comes down to SEX.

    Going to school more etc. isnt going to make you less horny.

    Comment by Sabekuji Kaneda
    17:38 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So, you're saying that sex education in schools doesn't work?

    School won't make anyone less horny but at least they'll know the consequences. If they know that, they can at least learn how to restrain themselves which can help in preventing the spread of AIDS.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:38 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dude. Education is important but education alone != protection. Condoms = protection.

    No matter how educated you are, if you have sex without a condom you put yourself in danger. (And your partner, too, if you've slept with at least one person without using a condom.)

    Comment by Sabekuji Kaneda
    18:44 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, education alone isn't enough. That's why I said "Condoms ALONE WON'T stop HIV blah blah blah" in my first post. Contraception + proper knowledge = No AIDS.

    Comment by Julius
    19:00 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    btw, contraception + proper knowledge != no AIDS, assuming sex is going to occur. Maybe you think contraceptives prevent AIDS? No known birth control prevents aids.

    You need something to catch the ejaculate to prevent AIDS/HIV- a condom.

    Comment by Sabekuji Kaneda
    19:17 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Looks like I'm not putting my whole thoughts on this.

    But you could at least see my point, right? You need both the help of contraceptives and proper education to lessen the spread of AIDS, if not totally eliminate it (or until we find a cure).

    What would be the point in distributing condoms if the people aren't educated? They'll just keep fucking each other, not knowing how to restrain themselves whenever they get horny. They'll put all their trust on the condom and when it isn't available, they'll risk having sex without protection. We are talking about Africa here. Most, if not all, of the continent is poor and I doubt they'll prioritize condoms first before food and water.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:24 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    But they're already fucking each other without protection. Hence the need for condoms. It's sort of like handing out clean needles to druggies. If they're already shooting themselves and don't want to stop then at least they won't put themselves and people around them in any more danger than they're already in.

    Only, having sex is not a crime and the purpose of condoms is that you can have sex without worrying about diseases like AIDS, _and_ getting the girl pregnant. Or are you saying people in Africa shouldn't have sex until we find the cure for AIDS?

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:28 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^continuing

    Yes, education is important but it doesn't eliminate the need for condoms. Education is a long-term process. It takes time. At the moment distributing condoms is pretty much the only short-term solution the problem.

    Comment by Sabekuji Kaneda
    20:54 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm not saying that Africans should stop having sex until we find a cure for AIDS. What I'm saying is that condoms alone won't stop the spread of AIDS if the people are not educated properly. Yes, distributing condoms would be a short-term solution but they should also start educating the people too.

    Also, yes education alone won't stop the spread of AIDS. But the two combined would be a very powerful weapon against it.

    Blah, I'll just stop. It looks like we're just talking "in circles" here. I do appreciate this little conversation with you anon. At least we agree with each other to an extent x_x

    Comment by Crimson Tears
    22:08 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Condoms are never useless, and Africans will still need them. But there's also a reason why they have a higher rate of HIV/AIDs than other countries, and that's the problem that requires a solution.

    Comment by Detailoid
    23:18 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Adults who spend most of their year away from their spouse, because one of them is working in a city to earn money so that they won't starve, are likely to be 100% celibate that time? Unlikely. Some use prostitutes, some have a second wife, but humans like having sex too much. Better to be safe than preach abstinence only. Condoms are efficient, even if not a cure nor 100% safe. It's better to rely on condoms as a temporary crutch and work on other things in the meanwhile, than to not and work on other things in the meanwhile.

    Comment by Anon
    16:47 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Pope is so going to Hell for telling those horny africans not to use condoms! xD

    Comment by Aoshi
    19:10 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pope's German... Obviously, he likes things In Ordnung.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:38 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So did the Polish Pope go ahead and recommended them to use condoms without worrying?

    I doubt he did because if he had and they had listened to him back then, why would they now bother listening to the current pope recommending them the opposite?

    Popes have always been for abstinence, especially outside of marriage. They don't even bother thinking any further because it is clear to them that if only people were abstinent, there would be no need for condoms. Not really a thought in their logic, it might just be that they have a far too positive image of the savage beast called mankind...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:39 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^'not really a fault in their logic' is what I meant to write...

    Comment by basilio
    16:49 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't use condoms! Use AIDS!

    Comment by Ershin
    16:56 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The headline may as well be "Pope commits murder on a global scale".

    Absolutely disgusting.

    Comment by Gunso
    11:38 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    actually that pope hidden agenda is... to reduce african population... so no need to worried about starvation in africa anymore... all africa people vanish already...

    if this AIDS virus not working teh pope maybe going to plan b... using Las Plagas parasites...

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:57 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    DUHHH wow ppl are dumb. Especially athiests. Rules suposedly enforced in christianity are damn common sense and also backup by society or laws.

    Comment by MaimeDaifuku
    17:01 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and here we go.

    Comment by Detailoid
    23:20 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Like the whole "eat shrimps and go to hell" bit?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:12 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Way to not do your homework, bro.

    Comment by Zelgadis4tw
    06:30 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not quite, as shrimp is an unclean animal according to the book of Leviticus. If you are Jewish or Muslim.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:08 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    im not saying christianity is bad, but MANY of its rules are against human logic, SOME of the rules do good however, and remember, THE BIBLE ISN'T WRITTEN BY JESUS/HIS FATHER, but his followers which is human, human can do wrong

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:39 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean like "let that little 9 year old slut die, it's her fault for getting raeped and now she has to take the consequences"?

    Comment by vesper_nova
    06:20 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    In some places they would say yes to that if they hadn't already tried to stone her to death. sigh if we folled all the rules writen by our forefathers do you know who backwards we would be. most of that stuff was write back when the oldest person was in their fiftes. when you need to have at lest five kids for one to make it to adulthood if your lucky. not to memetion the fact that your relegaion was also your state government too

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:11 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Know what else helps prevent AIDS?? Sex with young choir boys.

    Comment by vesper_nova
    06:23 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    no doesn't work. the choir boys can get it too. 2d now that's the way to go to prevent HIV/AIDs, STD and unwanted chirldren... damn I depressed myself
    (goes of to flap to 2d girlfriend)

    Comment by H8gwb
    17:34 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sigh. When will the pope realize he's worshipping the wrong god, who's not a fictional genki girl from Japan?

    Comment by H8gwb
    07:33 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    BTW, if you didn't see what I did there,
    WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?!

    Comment by Shuu
    07:59 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    My bet is on Tsuruya-san, but the god would be Haruhi...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:53 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ya see, THIS is why I'm an atheist. >.>

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:40 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is not about faith, this is about the head of the Catholic Church being an idiot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:13 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because ONE PERSON says something dumb. Cool story bro.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:35 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This one person is the motherf*cking HEAD OF YOUR RELIGION.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:20 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well then... if your president or whatever your leader is says something stupid (following your own logic) then you would be at fault...?

    LOL

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:20 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This one person is only the mother*cking head of the Roman Catholic Church.

    Christianity != Roman Catholic Church.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:22 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you can choose to be catholic. you can't choose what country you're born in (and you can move, so there)

    Comment by Shuu
    09:26 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    >Christianity != Roman Catholic Church

    Not if he (the pope) had his way...

    Comment by Yggr
    18:01 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Pope : Lawful/Evil

    Comment by Riot Gear
    18:25 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Since when he became a conscience to greater good while he doesn't know about his legion of priests commiting malicious mischiefs like being dumb and deaf during WWII?

    Comment by southbound395
    18:38 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I haven't really thought of the Catholic church as EVER being lawful evil- granted that's what they say they are (lawful) but their actions are more Neutral Evil from the church turning a blind eye to slavery , the nazi/jewish holocaust, and the excesses of their own child molesting priests.

    Yeah definitely Neutral Evil!

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:54 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Explain to me the dazling logic of how the pope is related to priests in WW2?

    Sure, the bible says that we must pay for the sins of our fathers, but even it doesn't go as far as saying we are responsible for them.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:11 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think he's talking about the pope letting holocaust deniers back into the church. A pretty sore subject since the pope was in the Hitler Youth.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:44 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    so you think nazism and christianity is contradicting each other? please prove that

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:30 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Shouldn't he be harming people out of malice in order to qualify for evil? Spreading "the word of god" is his job afik.

    Don't relate him to D&D or we will have another bunch of brain dead fundamentalist fanatics who claim it is somehow related to the devil and satanic b*** s***.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:26 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...why is the bull censored?? Isn't Bull s*** good enough....hell, BULL SHIT!! CHRISTIANITY IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

    Hey...is the "report" button a new feature?? I just noticed it yesterday...was it always there?

    Comment by XSportSeeker
    18:21 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yep.
    Thanks Pope for destroying in a few minutes the hard voluntary work of thousands of people.

    Fuck him. It's because of minds just like his one that the church gets a bad image.

    Because of actions like that we get to see new extremist actions and people getting one more reason to go all looney doing stupid stuff... like that case here in Brazil seen not long ago here in Sankaku.

    I'm an atheist myself, but I don't mind religion and religious people, as long as they don't suddenly decide to go dark ages on my face.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:57 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Even the priests in Africa said WTF to his statements.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:07 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sadly it's a fact that many priests in Africa tell prostitutes (!) not to use condoms for the sake of their "salvation".

    Comment by soloista
    01:39 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Priests in Africa and their flock are obliged to obey the pope because it's an "authoritative statement".

    The reason why Catholics don't like condoms and anything outside of ejaculating inside a woman is because it's against natural law, which is to let the sperm meet the egg.

    Also another "authoritative statement" is that man is not allowed dominion over his sexual faculties.

    Apparently it was a medieval concept that they want to carry into today.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:10 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    christianity is going down the road to mimic islam's way to extremism

    Comment by Zelgadis4tw
    06:39 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Catholicism*

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:45 20/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So who profits from them doing so? It's Judaism who's receiving the image boost they so desperately need after all those boys who died during circumcision...

    Comment by Palmtop Tiger
    18:54 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If by "spiritual and human awakening" he means genocide, then they're on the right track.

    Comment by JefLebowski
    19:27 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Man... our pope (I am german)...
    I really think spiritual awakening is not the way to fight against the desease.
    Africans should be provided with condoms, and more education about the topic.

    so please, Papa-Razzi, let it be, k?

    Comment by Risu
    20:37 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    We should start promoting (2D) loli fapping in Africa, by distributing large amounts of ero-manga and doujinshi.
    This is way more efficient to fight against STD's and overpopulation than condoms :)

    Comment by MikeeUSA
    21:05 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Using condoms all the time == No children == Africans die out.
    Not using condoms == Children == Africans continue to exist.

    If you're a racist you'll be infavor of condoms.
    If you believe it's better to live and die later without having any children than to live and potentially die sooner but have children you'll be infavor of condoms.
    If you believe that it would be nice for Africans to still exist once GRIDs is cured, then you won't be infavor of condoms used all the time.

    The German Pope (GERMAN) seems to be the only non-racist/eugenicist around.

    Also, Ethiopia pretty much follows deuteronomy 22 btw: 70 percent of marraiges are by unilateral action by the man upon a young female of childbearing age.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:17 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So you're in favor of AIDs infecting us all? Nice going faggot.

    Comment by MikeeUSA
    21:24 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's better to continue to exist than to die out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:32 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yes lets continue existing with a killer virus in all of us that will slowly kill many of us, and those of us infected who has kids will let their kids get it from birth killing them before they can give birth...THEN we can all die out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:17 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    god made AIDS, god is responsible for AIDS, who else created AIDS? some mad scientist? and god created SIN, so it's his fault that his people are SINNERS

    and god created human, so he is responsible for what happening in the earth today

    why you came to this site anyway? it's full of sin

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:43 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Annnnnnnd Mikee makes his appearance!

    Round of applause everyone!

    Woo! Woo!

    Comment by vesper_nova
    06:30 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    speak of the divil and the divil appears. Besies who says that you have to use condoms if you want to have kids.

    Comment by Tenno Seremel
    23:06 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You are spreading disturbing words, citizen. Please, come with us for a moment.

    Comment by Detailoid
    23:24 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hint: If they're all infected by aids, they won't survive for long. Children of infected parents dying before they ever hit puberty will not keep keep the various african populations alive.

    Comment by BuggyBY
    07:10 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    On the other hand, if they die before puberty, there will be plenty of loli/shota around who won't live long enough to tell on their rapists. I can see why both Catholics and Mikey-boy approve.

    Comment by Izu Taisa
    21:14 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hahaha.pope doesnt learn science,maybe?sorry to say,i never believe in Cristian

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:41 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, you know what?

    Fuck trying to save the lives of Africans, I'm with the Pope, "Don't use condoms!"

    Comment by MikeeUSA
    21:47 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It comes down to: you can save one life and allow whatever lineage that would come after to never exist or you can not condemn that person for trying to procreate (which cannot be done with a working condom) and allow the people as a whole to continue to exist.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:48 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yep, children with inborn AIDS are sure to contribute to the preservation of the people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:39 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Condoms break. If you give every African a million condoms, half the women will still get pregnant within a year. Your argument is assuming a scenario that is too clean cut. Also, I don't see the connection between condomns and rascism. There are far too many Africans to be wiped out regardless of whether or not aids is spread.
    I don't think the pope is stupid, but I do think his argument is, if for no other reason just because human nature goes against abstinence (not to say that no one practices, as I myself am celibate, but that most people wouldn't even consider it). Spirituality doesn't work.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:45 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    But this isn't a website about anime, manga, videogames and japan curiosities?
    Why there're post about big cancers, rapist and religion?
    Is this "4chan 2.0"?

    Also, the big problem of africa is denutrition, most of the aids cases in africa are false positive.
    Everybody is arguing about the pope but no one cares about africa. You're a bunch of hypocrites.

    Comment by MikeeUSA
    21:49 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is the lack of good food in africa due to Us dumping our excess food there for awhile, putting the local farmers out of business, etc.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:15 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Artifact will post whatever will get read the most, that's pretty much his biggest priority.

    Comment by Leon
    21:53 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So they won't be able to use Zange-chan's condoms...
    Or that may be the point, and the Pope is an Otaku.

    Comment by Suishieroll
    21:59 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Long as there are choirboys, there won't be “spiritual and human awakening”

    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    22:43 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh know a article that involves religion, everyones gonna start "debating" now XP

    Comment by Zelgadis4tw
    06:46 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A little late for that Icy-nee-san :/

    Comment by Tingle
    23:17 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    what does this have to do with japan? Seriously what is with all the off topic religion articles?

    Comment by Detailoid
    23:26 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    An excuse to post condom-using 2d girls?

    Comment by Artefact
    02:25 19/03/2009 # ! Perverse

    This is actually on-topic, but unfortunately I have not revealed what the topic is.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:35 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hmmm....christianity is the religion of some of the characters in the ANIME and MANGA Hellsing...this topic is centred around a religious retard saying safe sex is bad...hmmm.....it kinda connects if you think about it.

    Comment by Vegio
    05:41 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you forget an important anime/manga about christian religion: mariaholic.
    that's an awesome one!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:25 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    its completely bullshit the moment they try to put religion into the picture.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    23:31 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Less "Christian leaders messing up with Laws" (If it's really True..) news.

    More "Toddlercon Otaku caught stalking Kindergarten schoolgirls" articles.

    Comment by MaidNiac
    23:40 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anyway.., kinda wish someone can ressurect good ol' Pope John Paul back to life..

    Comment by Vegio
    00:19 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    just a sec, i'm finishing recovering mana.

    Comment by velvet
    00:31 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ressurecting %t ....2976 mana lost.

    Comment by Artefact
    02:27 19/03/2009 # ! Hopeful

    Those two types of story are closer than you realise.

    Comment by Azarien
    23:49 18/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is off-topic. And it happened again. I thought this H/ecchi site, not anti-catholic one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:09 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey Africa, die of AIDS!

    Comment by MMM
    00:10 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Last time I check, stupid people dont get a cold. Now it works for AIDS too. O.o

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:39 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuck the Pope in the ass. Use a condom to help stop to faggotry.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:43 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    In Africa...the pools always' open because of AIDS

    anybody watched a Katamari by HIV/AIDS in africa here's the link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtXaRE1Jz2M

    Comment by Doriinatrix
    00:55 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Silly pope, abstinence is for people without sex drives!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:14 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh come on... this is the 3rd time that we have a religious post on this site -.-

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:17 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I forgot to add... where's my idol galleries!! D:

    (I miss those posts ToT)

    Comment by Artefact
    02:28 19/03/2009 # ! Diabolical

    Go and read the other 2,000 posts then.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:52 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's what I'm doing ;D

    Comment by t//B
    01:50 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, he does have a point.

    Start handing out condoms to them, and they'll probably start doing it more. Not to mention probably using the condoms incorrectly.

    What the region really needs is a better education system.

    Comment by Zelretch
    02:03 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yep. We will beat AIDS with a lot of friendship power. He's watching too many animus.

    Comment by Riot Gear
    02:22 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
    -Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941

    yup,and he's German too.

    Comment by Watson Waterstone
    05:45 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    also Jewish.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:51 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    contradiction?

    Comment by Hangmen
    02:26 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    After watching several videos by TOKYO HOT, I agree that wearing condoms will only make things worse. Also, I'm glad the Pope does not command Space Marines.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:14 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Can we bring back Pope John Paul II please?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:29 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Masturbation saves !!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:35 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They will outbreed the condom users! Or kill each other off with extreme AIDS.

    The latter is sorta satisfying, in a Darwin Award way.

    Comment by Ashaz
    04:10 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Suddenly I understand why he needs that bulletproof popemobile -.-

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:24 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A lot of people here are displaying ignorance to the Catholic faith. This story makes a lot more sense if you know the background to these people.
    Basically the Catholic church views copulation as a 'sacrament' that is: a sacred ceremony with procreation, making babies, being the only point to it. So by using any form of contraception you are defiling the ceremony and committing a mortal sin which means you automatically go to hell forever. Since not going to hell is obviously more important than dying it's better to risk catching AIDS than risk tarnishing your immortal soul, so long as you're married and doing it solely for the purposes of procreation.

    I make no apologies for this incredibly fucked up logic.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:26 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    sarcasm?

    Comment by vesper_nova
    06:38 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    no worst, sad painful truth. some of the ideas the Catholic fath run on is outdated by today's standards. also Index said it best, Politics got mixed in with Religion.

    Comment by smooches
    06:01 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and this is one of the many many reasons the religious world was lucky to have Martin Luther.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:28 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol catholics
    lol religion in general

    Comment by De JaY
    04:30 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol religion

    Comment by Watson Waterstone
    05:46 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Man, I'm so glad I'm not Catholic...

    Comment by ZippyDSMlee
    06:24 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Draconian and antiquated views on women and sex are 2 main reasons to take religion figuratively because if you take it literally females and sex become evil and traps get shot on site.

    Think of the traps people!

    Comment by vesper_nova
    06:49 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'll lie down my take on this stright foward and honest.
    I don't think Condoms by themselves is going to work
    I don't think Abstance by themselves is going to work
    I don't think religion by themselves is going to work
    I don't think Edacation by themselves is going to work.
    To get results you must use all of the about, and also I don't think the pope can get away with saying use condoms when get the urge for a quicke. if he did his followers would tar and feather him. and if they don't have tar and feathers they'll use hot wax and packing popcorn.
    (has a vision of the pope hot waxed and popcorned)
    Hmmmm... coooool.
    Well that's my take. and to those who grip (that one unknamed person) if you want kids, condoms don't stop you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:56 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    he already got tared and feathered and waxed and popcorned after rehabilitating williamson, and not only by his followers

    sure is a bold one to state something like this shortly afterwards

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:53 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    From now on I shall avoid all articles related to religion as long as they aren't at least also related to East Asia. This comment was written for the sole purpose of encouraging fellow users who too are annoyed at the recent shift of subjects covered to do the same, as dropping hit numbers appear to be the only language Artefact is willing to understand.

    Comment by Stormy001
    09:04 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Does the Pope see the magnitude of human tragedy in Africa and now he asking them not to use condoms? What a motherfucker.

    He is selfish and unreasonable. How can he call himself compassionate?

    Comment by H8gwb
    14:55 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    When I first saw the new pope, I thought "that guy's definitely a pedophile. He absolutely is the spitting image if pedophilia incarnate. WTF was the church thinking if electing him as head of state?!"

    Therefore, not much was expected of him from me.

    Comment by ChocolateCrinkles
    10:50 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There's an increasing amount of Church problems/ scandals nowadays... I wonder why...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:57 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe because Jewish control of the Media tightens nowadays...

    Comment by poiuyt
    11:06 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    with reading Pope to Africa: “Don’t Use Condoms!” i thought it was gonna be lulz. like, they're all gonna get it anyway, why bother .

    "But they’re already fucking each other without protection. Hence the need for condoms. It’s sort of like handing out clean needles to druggies. If they’re already shooting themselves and don’t want to stop then at least they won’t put themselves and people around them in any more danger than they’re already in."

    and being a druggie is such a good thing ya need to encourage it and hand em clean needles...

    while the thought of 2d wives being sent there and having them get hooked on it is lulzy, its impossible. it costs too much. like computers, internet connection, not to mention other otaku stuff. only RICH countries have the luxury of 2d wives. that and its cheaper, easier and more fun to fuck your neighbor...

    unfortunately more prone to HIV as well.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:10 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i don't care what you guys think, catholic is win.

    kill someone = just say around 100 hail mary*
    raep = around 70
    steal = around 50

    i mean, its all good, just say a few hail marys and yer golden mwahahahaha. you can do anyhing. course if the law gets ya yer dead, so kill witnesses aight.

    *-the prayer

    Comment by LoliHat
    11:43 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't they believe that raping a virgin cures one of AIDS in many parts of Africa? Of course, with all the AIDS and rape, all the AIDS infected men have to turn to newborns.

    Comment by H8gwb
    14:51 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dispite the graveness of this article, whoever thought, then conviced entire societes of that FACT must be the most epic troll in history.

    Comment by jonaht
    12:58 19/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    >.< I hope all the comments here can solve the problem (more than arguing). LOL

    Comment by wertuiop
    10:56 20/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the pope is a fucking idiot. fuck isms, haven't done anything but enslave and numb the minds and hearts of innoncent people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:28 20/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can't believe how many posts are spawned everytime there's a news topic regarding about Christfaggotry, as well as MikeeUSA trolling.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:07 21/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mikee is a faggot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:25 24/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Africans can only be good at three things: running, killing themselves and having sex. Why tell them not to do the last two if only a handful marathonists can participate in the Olympics?

    Comment by Tex_Arcana
    09:37 04/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They've proven rather effective at overthrowing governments.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:12 04/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Educational institutions are removed from official Catholic lists when they invite Hillary Clinton to speak. But have sex with children and all you have to do is repent.

    Comment by Bronxdragon
    01:23 28/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Stay in your own damn country....those people have enough problems.....

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