A recent article provides us with 16 patterns that women consider “unmanly”, and are the subject of much loathing.
These are the qualities Japanese women are thought to despise:
1. He has no opinion, is just carried along by others.
2. He always has someone to blame.
3. He can never be decisive at the moment of truth.
4. He’s always giving up (never puts in the work).
5. He’s always relying on his parents somehow.
6. He keeps quiet on the train even when he’s bunched up against some weirdo.
7. Though he’s timid around other people, he only acts firm in front of me.
8. He flip-flops around with what foods he likes and dislikes.
9. He splits the cost of meals (with me) exactly, even in increments of ¥10.
10. He asks to be treated.
11. He always whines about his work.
12. His mails are too long.
13. He does nothing but complain.
14. He checks his appearance in front of the mirror too much.
15. He uses hygiene products too much.
16. His body is frail and weak.
Via Itai News.
As we heard previously, collecting figures or being an anime otaku are also sure ways to eliminate yourself from the gene pool.
2ch shoots back with the 16 patterns possessed by a woman who men actually like:
1. Her opinion is tsundere.
2. She blames everything on the petty.
3. She’s audacious at the moment of truth.
4. She’s always bathing (likes to keep clean and tidy).
5. She relies on tools one way or another.
6. She cries on the train when she’s bunched up against some weirdo.
7. Though she’s timid around her boyfriend, she only acts firm in front of her teddy bear.
8. She doesn’t care about food.
9. She pesters (me) for money exactly, even in increments of ¥10.
10. She asks to be “done”.
11. She always whines about her breasts.
12. Her letters are long.
13. She does nothing but ero.
14. She checks the lower half of her body in front of the mirror a lot.
15. She spends too much time on her breasts.
16. She is tsurupeta (flat and smooth).
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"16 patterns possessed by a woman who men actually like?"
according to whom? people with 2d complexes, who probably never had a relationship with a woman?
how can you assume that this is a woman you might actually like? was it based on some new or recent anime they have recently watched?
pathetic...
You can say the same about the first list.
Someone is taking things way~ too seariously...~~
I'm inclined to believe this is a joke, or the opinion of a single stupid person, but I wouldn't put it past Japanese culture to be so repulsively patriarchal that they would complain about ridiculous things like this.
"9. He splits the cost of meals (with me) exactly, even in increments of ¥10."
Good thing these women enjoy being treated as children I suppose.
Some of these are just ludicrous. I mean, like #6. "He keeps quiet on the train even when he’s bunched up against some weirdo."
What the fuck is he exactly suppose to do? Yell at him? Mouth off at him? I mean if he's a weirdo minding his own business I think it's best let it be. A lot of those questions make no sense. If anything, it's like those guys with books on "how to date women" who are like the only ones who end up without a date.
I feet in none of those 16, yet i have no women...
Screw men, women, and all social interaction, all I need is anime, manga, ero-games, video games, my figures and the sweet sweet voice of Rie to masturbate to ;3
The Japanese women are simply disgusted at the many unmanly traits that are now commonly found in men, and, with the exception of 15(which I don't really understand, because why would being hygienic be considered unmanly...?), I agree with them.
Pathetic, really. A man who would choose fantasy over reality to escape the inevitability of their worthlessness, inferiority and lack of defining characteristics. I suppose, if the laws of evolution prove to be true, that all unmanly otaku amoeba will assume extinction and only the strong/desirable men will survive...unfortunately evolution is so damn slow, that I'll never live to see that glorious day.
The concept of manliness is extremely sexist and patriarchal and if we are to move towards a better society for both men and women we need to remove the word from our lexicon entirely. People like you and whoever came up with that list are only helping to ruin the world.
The concept of manliness is there to ensure our survival as a species. So, if you're all for the eradication of humanity, go right ahead with that.
FUCK EVOLUTION YOU JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE YOU THAT BELIEVES IN YOU!!!!!!!
Nice job 2ch to fight back the 16 patterns who women wants.
This is like the third or so ridiculous poll this week. In this case, I think I'll blame whatever incompetent Japanese "journalist" decided to make this shit up. Don't believe everything you read, kidlets.
I know the list of what men like is awesome after readin the first one.
my first time posting in here.
just to thank you all for your answers, you made my day happy, and believing i'm not the only one like you all.
ONE OF US
ONE OF US
SC ni Youkoso! :3
I love how the "womens dislikes" list reads exactly like... well, a list of things women do.
Can't wait until someone begin inventing Chobbits.
It'll be a glorious day for "Man"-kind.
I'd choose Chii over 99% of the female population.
and you can always get a "Sumomo Model" for the lulz
that explain why i saw so many girls buying flower for themself at valentine days when i went to shopping lol.
have fun waiting for your prince^^
tl;dr
Doesn't matter, an article is just an article and not all women are the same so...... =D
lol 2 chan.So i stand pretty good in the women views but still didn't find one.
zOMG!
you win the internet 2ch XDDD
these are true
1. He has no opinion, is just carried along by others.
2. He always has someone to blame.
3. He can never be decisive at the moment of truth.
4. He’s always giving up (never puts in the work).
5. He’s always relying on his parents somehow.
ok we just dont want to be stalked and raped...? you would prolly cry, and who needs life to be harder then it already is bitch dont make a scene?
6. He keeps quiet on the train even when he’s bunched up against some weirdo.
be glad you get the best of him
7. Though he’s timid around other people, he only acts firm in front of me.
who cares?
8. He flip-flops around with what foods he likes and dislikes.
you gotta show your worth too even if its just ¥10
9. He splits the cost of meals (with me) exactly, even in increments of ¥10.
10. He asks to be treated.
who else are we gonna talk to?
11. He always whines about his work.
12. His mails are too long.
13. He does nothing but complain.
wtf you ask us to look good and this is how you repay us?
14. He checks his appearance in front of the mirror too much.
15. He uses hygiene products too much.
16. His body is frail and weak.
last thing i wanna say
Who the fuck are you?
Days like this , I bask in my badassery =)
LOL OWNAGE. NICE BURN!!!
LOLOLOLOL
Well then, I hope you stay CLEAR away from me. Cuz if you find hygiene products such as shampoo, conditioner, deodorant, tooth paste, soap, cleansers, and so on to be disgusting, you must be one smelly, disgusting creep.
Sorry.
I must be a dinosaur then cause I think most of the list is CRAP!! 99% of women I have encountered in western society (and I include Japan there) are like those women. They want fictional males who don't exist!!!
Oh 2chan... fucking lol
1. He has no opinion, is just carried along by others.
Real answer: You talk over everything and ignore what I say regardless.
2. He always has someone to blame.
Real Answer: because bitch I didn't do I was home beating off!
3. He can never be decisive at the moment of truth.
Real Answer once again you don't listen to me.
4. He’s always giving up (never puts in the work).
Real Answer: Did you not see the other 20 times I've done this...lets see you do better.
5. He’s always relying on his parents somehow.
Real Answer: GTFO of my house then lets see how far you go with how much shit cost now and days.
6. He keeps quiet on the train even when he’s bunched up against some weirdo.
Real Answer: Its crowded and its rude to just be like that you stupid bitch.
7. Though he’s timid around other people, he only acts firm in front of me.
Real Answer: Cause you are my girl and I really don't give a damn about those other people thus I just say what needs to be said and let thos fers go on about their business.
8. He flip-flops around with what foods he likes and dislikes.
Real Answer: Like your any better bitch.
9. He splits the cost of meals (with me) exactly, even in increments of ¥10.
Real Answer: Its fuckin mcdonalds not a fucking resturant.
10. He asks to be treated.
Real Answer: Ok this I have never done so...yeah.
11. He always whines about his work.
Real Answer: I never do this so yeah.
12. His mails are too long.
Real Answer: Ok you got mad at me when they were to small now to long.....bitch we over....I'm throwing your shit out!
13. He does nothing but complain.
Real Answer: I don't bother with this, so I wouldn't know.
14. He checks his appearance in front of the mirror too much.
Real Answer: I gotta look pretty for my fans too...or do you want me to go out looking like a bum.
15. He uses hygiene products too much.
Real Answer: So using some cologne is to much? When were going to a fancy place?
16. His body is frail and weak.
Real Answer: You don't say that when I have you up against that wall now do you?
1. Her opinion is tsundere.
hell yes
this is godwin my email adress is g.okeh@yahoo.com this is intresting of you all and i want a friend from your cloube which i will love with all my heartand which i can marry asmy wife for ever and ever am expecting some one to send me me a text of empresion thank from godwin
And they can thank the female revolution for instigating a system which teaches males to act in this kind of manner.
More men need to see the light.
You all should give up your hopes and dreams of getting a Japanese waifu. :3
you meen all japanese womens arent Mio and Yui clones!!!! q.q NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Than I will keep my 2D waifu.
NEVEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Wow. Well, according to the 'desirable traits in a guy' list, I'd have Japanese girls swarming all over me. I fit into alot of those categories.
The question is though, would I be able to tolerate Japanese girls? I don't know how I'd cope with someone who expects to be treated all the time and complains and indecisive. Well as long as she puts out...
japanese men hand over their bank accounts to their wives. have fun with that one. i imagine most of the weaboos obsessed with jchicks wouldn't last a day with a real one, they're so demanding.
This types of would women would die as bachelors...Well good luck finding a perfect guy
*spinster
and i agree
Why does it look like society is just DYING to head towards their own extinction? (pun intended)
Women, they want equality, yet they don't want to be drafted. It means that they want the privilege without the responsibilities that come the privileges.
the world, why not end it?
Number 16 on the list what guys want is so true.
DO WANT.
Well, as a woman I do agree with some of the above.
13. He does nothing but complain. --> I dun think they should complain but they should share their troubles with his love ones?
14. He checks his appearance in front of the mirror too much. --> I seen this cases a lot of time. Guys who kept looking into the mirror and worrying about his looks. If I'm not worried, why are you -.-;;;
9. He splits the cost of meals (with me) exactly, even in increments of ¥10. --> This kinda makes me think the guys are ungentlemanly. Do treat the girls at times but not all the time =/
15. He uses hygiene products too much. --> This only applies to japanese guys. Not for any other guys in the world i presumed.
Lastly I do not agree with the 2chn comments about woman. [#1 is pretty true in my country though. -.-'']
there are no girls on the internet STOP LYING q.q
Those qualities are qualities most women have, that's why they're unmanly.
Live with some defects or live alone. PERIOD!
You are completely right, God. If we will not tolerate each other, we can all go gay or lesbian immediately! I tolerate my girls bad habits or complains and etc (of course it has some limits too- if she complains me, ill tell her - Fuck off bitch, if u dont need me, i dont need u too) and she tolerates me too. So whats wrong with y'all?
Live with some defects or go commit a suicide!
(idea of thousands men and women jumping from highest skyscrapers in Tokyo is quite... )
yeah, that list sounds a lot like white guys who are into japan and why they're so gross. except the hygiene part. they need to embrace it rather than tone it down.
The 2nd list makes sense. Hm, I should post the first one on my wall as a reminder. I will not stop otaku though.
1.He has no opinion, is just carried along by others.
if it's something i like i stand up to it
2.He always has someone to blame.
if it's my fault it's my fault i don't blame others unless they did it
3.He can never be decisive at the moment of truth.
i'm decisive
4.He’s always giving up (never puts in the work).
depends on how desperate it is
5.He’s always relying on his parents somehow.
have a hover parent, i try not to
6.He keeps quiet on the train even when he’s bunched up against some weirdo.
depends on the wierdo
7.Though he’s timid around other people, he only acts firm in front of me.
???
8.He flip-flops around with what foods he likes and dislikes.
i don't have that problem so i'm straight
9.He splits the cost of meals (with me) exactly, even in increments of ¥10.
if i liked the girl i'll pay for it whole
10.He asks to be treated.
understandable
11.He always whines about his work.
sounds unavoidable
12.His mails are too long.
i thought girls don't like short mails
13.He does nothing but complain.
understandable
14.He checks his appearance in front of the mirror too much.
what's wrong with looking nice?
15.He uses hygiene products too much.
what's wrong with smelling nice?
16.His body is frail and weak.
understandable
what a load of bs
On the being treated thing, the girls iv gone out with outright refused to let me pay for them, i insisted a fair bit but had to back down in the end less anger them. no matter how i try i cant understand women ... they want to be treated but wont let you treat them ...
Maybe it's the thought that counts; knowing the person is willing to go that extra step further than you need them to.
that's because you cant treat someone you are stalking
Hmm maby, still some of the 'unmanly' behaviors are a bit much, do they want there guys to be unclean and smelly? Do they want them to be assholes who just shout out what ever they like? And the mails to long ... what the hell, from what iv experienced most girls like to talk alot.... so confusing ....
You hit a number 1 on the 2ch list there.
Gene pool? Never heard of it.
oh, 2ch. We wish all women are like that...
As an American (half Korean) I have to agree with the female list. All of that stuff would piss me off too. However, I fit the bill somewhat when it comes to #7.
7. Though he’s timid around other people, he only acts firm in front of me.
The problem though is not that I'm timid, I just don't hate people in general, and so do not socialize unless absolutely necessary. Most people assume it's shyness until I tell them to f*ck off.
*EDIT* I hate people in general.
Sorry im tired right now and can't type XD
lolz, for me its be the decicive part. I tend to hold no opinion about anything because once I do have an opinion, nobody else's opinion matters to me anymore XD
That also happens with me. I'm always considering all the factors until I have an opinion, then people can argue with me for 1/2 hours straight that I won't change it.
Same, I'm slow making an opinion, because once I make one, it's impossible to make me change my mind.
more haste, less speed
Wow....welcome to world of the "Pussified Male" compliments of Political Correctness! No honestly- Think about it! Us Otaku's are waaaay more confident with ourselves, likes, dislikes, entertainment/recreational 'Tastes'. And above all don't care what others think!- We are "living the dream!" that only Metro-sexual Pussified Males can only dream about!
I think I'll masterbate to Brea Grant's (Daphne from "Heroes") geekness- listen to her explain why she likes "Fringe":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWMHYEoa-xk
LOLOL...Who cares what Women think!
My mind went numb.
I think I know why men would want to keep mail's short.
Here's my take on the "short e-mails" thing:
Naturally for us americans, most of us would come across women who like to talk alot, but to their girlfriends of course, the gossip, the guys they think are hot, what clothes they bought (probably without our money) and so forth...
So #1: probably to them, a guy that talks a lot screams a type of "femininity" that is exclusive to women and a trait they don;t want us to have.
Sure they know deep down we dont shut up when it's "a group of the guys watching 'the game' downing some beers" and whatnot, but they dont want us talking that much to THEM.
Second, Looking at their list, they type of man that cam come from that list almost speaks of the dark and silent type, mysterious and cool, yup, you guessed it, anime type of guy that they can only dream of in their (probably korean) drama shows they watch while doing nothing all day.
They want to keep and hold on to that mystery, hence the need for shorter e-mails, because the more we talk about the things we like, ourselves, our dreams, goals, etc. we lose our sense of 'mystery.' We become "that guy i know everything about, he's not that interesting after all..."
I mean hell, they give US sh*t about living in a fantasy world full of 2D women and loli's and "women they can't compete with..." but DAMN IT at least we ADMIT TO IT, we LOVE our anime and japan products and our UCC Coffee runs, and our uncensored anime, and our DFC's and our reverse-trap-card-swords-of-revealing Shimapan!
THEY'RE the ones flat out denying it!
Why worry about any of this? I tell you, women in general don't care about anything like this unless you're looking to be their boyfriend. And who the hell wants that? Approach her and act like a fucking jerk, that's what I do. If you get the chance to embarrass weaker males while doing it, go for it. Works every time.
That'll work well right up until you discover that one of those weaker males is your doctor. Have fun future or lack thereof (^. ^)
You Mister know the trick! I also do the same thing and works everytime. The girls just love dicks as us!
15. She spends too much time on her breasts.
How is that a bad thing? 0.0
Or do they mean they just obsess about their size?
Most likely bitching about the size/shape or whatever.
The list is of things we like.
The title art is from http://mmsent.deviantart.com/art/Toradora-108623593 in case someone is curious.
Thanks - good to have sources.
Why all the posts about what Japanese women hate? Why not posts about what Japanese women like?
Oh wait, I can sum that up in one word: money.
All women like money. If you have money, you have womens.
If you dont have money, you better be either good looking and/or have 0 bad things.
They definetly want love. Who wants money nowdays? Only a bi..es.
What's this woman (did I spell that right?) thing you are all talking about?
It's a 3D parody of all the drawings you see on the Channel.
The 2ch pattern of woman only exists in animes, mangas and ero-games.
If they expect to get a woman like the pattern, they're going to die alone against the computer or watching television. In the worst and more pathetic case, will be a fap accident xD
I've always thought that one of the biggest reason that otaku's can't find a girlfriend is that they have way too high of expectation. The woman's list were at least agreeable, but the list for 2ch is just.......
ah... I think declining birth and marriage rates in Japan are due to both sides having too high expectations... they just push each other away!
No. It's not like fewer people have significant others/spouses in Japan these days. It's that women don't want to be forced to choose between working and having a child, and that having children (especially more than one) is so expensive.
Sounds like a good way to die to me. Keep in mind that the 2ch response was mostly a joke(though I'm sure they were very serious about some of it). Anyway, I really liked 2ch's counter. Bravo.
As for the female list, I can understand most of their points but some of them seem like it's pushing it. Hmmm...I'm just gonna point out one of them.
#12 His mails are too long
I can understand if the guy starts getting obsessive but on a regular basis, what's wrong with long letters? Especially if they're separated enough to warrant sending letters/emails to each other.
I'm sure that's supposed to be "male's" too long.
"5$ not enough", Mr Kubrick.
Oh and just as an added point. Personally, at least in my case, the reason I'm destined to live a depressingly lonely pathetic life, is cause I'm shy around other people. I'm sure a lot of otaku have this problem too. I don't want to speak for all otaku or anything, but I'd be happy just to have a girlfriend, any girlfriend. I'm not picky at all. (so long as she respects my love of anime enough not to make me give it up, she doesn't have to like it at all)
I second that. Dickheads or queers...
long comment is long.
lol j/k.
Dickheads? lol.
Does that make me a dickhead or queer?
Besides that, good job 2ch!
Lol, well if it came down to anime or the girl, we all know the girl would probably need to leave.
Not probably. Definitely vote for anime. Who needs a girl that dislikes anime? I'm in no need of any girl. (Whats the word for guys who act tsundere? lol)
that would be the fastest "there's the door" in history, at least in my case
Good for the girls! I don't like being around those whiny little wimp-types either. So why are all anime heroes like that? (Gee, I wonder...)
They are the heroes because one of the main themes of anime/manga stories is the "maturing hero", the way a hero becomes stronger over time, which means he has to start down somewhere.
Everybody was weak at one point. True that.
In an interview Akamatsu Ken (the mangaka of Love Hina) said that making a "week" hero helps alot of normal people to relate to him. A super-perfect hero will be precieved as totally unreal and will not be popular (even in the case of superhuman strenght manga and anime).
bull shit, im the embodiment of Kamina
Julius? Is that you?
This is your mother! Get the fuck out of the basement, put some pants on and get the trash out!
just the ones in romantic comedies are like that.