Raep simulator vendor Amazon has been the target of the usual hysterical anti-game criticism after the mass media found out they were stocking Illusion’s chikan simulator “Rapelay”, which allows simulated sex attacks from the privacy of your PC.
The rag soon tried to stoke their “exclusive” by contacting a fiery moralist politician, who was delighted to hear that his earlier unsubstantiated claim that raep games existed was true after all:
“It is intolerable that anyone would purchase a game that simulates the criminal offence of rape.
To know that this widely available through a major online retailer is utterly shocking, I do not see how this can be allowed.
I will be raising this matter in Parliament and hope that action is taken to prevent the game from being sold.”
The minor leftist politician had earlier made the claim, knowing nothing of the game, that:
“People who are watching a film at the cinema cannot participate in what is happening on the screen, or if they do they are removed from the cinema.
However… when people play these things, they can interact. They can shoot people; they can kill people. As the honourable Gentleman said, they can rape women.”
At the time, an opposition politician challenged him:
“I checked the point with the BBFC and found it to be completely unaware of any such video game.
Is the honourable Gentleman aware of any video game that has as its intention the carrying out of rape or that allows the game player to carry out such an act?
The BBFC and I are unaware of any such game.”
This is in fact quite correct, as the BBFC (British censorship body in charge of protecting the public from scurrilous filth like GTA) has nothing to do with Rapelay, a game released only in Japan, and only in Japanese, available through third party importers only.
In fact, the game is only being stocked by Amazon.com, not Amazon.co.uk, not surprisingly as 3D raep is probably illegal under the new laws protecting the UK public from images of sexual deviancy.
Still, the whiff of controversy was enough to cause Amazon to fold: in response to the rag’s prying, they pulled the listing, though without comment.
Japan, a nation where raep simulators and loli manga are more widely available than anywhere else in the world, also happens to have some of the lowest rates of sexual and violent crime in the world.
Rapelay itself was released in 2006 and features 3D graphics and a scenario typical of the sub-genre, with the protagonist attempting to sexually enslave a mother and her two daughters; its content is not particularly extreme.
You can try the trial versions of the game at Illusion’s site, or see some CG here.
Via the Belfast Telegraph. Thanks to Crossfire for informing us.
From what we can glean from the statements of wholesalers and others on the vendor side of things, it seems Amazon are fairly passive in choosing what to stock – it appears products are registered by sellers, and then approved (automatically it seems) by Amazon, thus entering their catalogue.
Matters are further complicated by the complex arrangement of independent distributors and retailers operating through Amazon’s marketplace, so it is probably unreasonable to conclude that Amazon willfully opted to stock such a product.
What seems not to crossed anyone’s mind is why UK MPs are complaining about what a US retailer chooses to sell.
More to the point, if an international retailer such as Amazon is forced to start removing products based on outcry in one of its national subsidiaries, what does this mean for Amazon.co.jp, Japan’s foremost seller of loli manga, raep games and similar? Will Amazon.com pull products based on complaints from conservative Islamic countries, or undemocratic regimes?
Could demands for censorship in the UK or elsewhere force them to remove even more of their erotic catalogue? It seems they may already be in the process of pre-empting such demands…
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This just seems like it would increase the sales on this game..
Haha ya, I bet the makers of Rapelay are smiling at this publicity.
Famous or infamous, it's all the same thing at the end of the day, as it was with that Virgin Killer album. I mean, I didn't even know about it until the IWF made a fuss and tried to block it, and I wonder how many people would say the same.
I can already see it now. police at yor door ready to gun you down because of your fetish porn. Still I just don't get what the uks problem is. they act like thats the worst thing in the world. I don't know that much about all the coplicated politics involved but this is a waste of there time. they could be helping poor people over there are focusing on the economy. but no the bigger problem is the porn. fuck, uk get your prioritys right!:(
Nobody ever buys these games.
Admit it, all of you guys torrented Rapelay.
ED2K actually after I spotted it on HongFire, but you're right either way. (^_^;)
Pretty tame shit. I've seen worse. That still didn't stop a 13 year old Brit from becoming a shota-dad though.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece
Amazingly, neither of them are being had up on child abuse charges either, particularly the girl!
I remember a similar case years back, where some little yob got a 9-year old girl pregnant and was all smug about it. Of course, given the sink estate they both lived on - the sort of thing that still exists to this day, despite our crappy government claiming they would do something about it (I know, because I'm unfortunate enough to be on one) - it's hardly surprising really.
Yeah, you don't have to look very hard in Britain to see the real reason teenage pregnancy is so high.
Okay first they remove GTA from the reach of those who really want to play it... they ban games that contain even the slightest p0rn and now this... DAMN POLITICIANS!!! WHY CAN"T YOU ALL JUST DIE AND GO TO HELL VIA HELL GIRL EXPRESS!!!
Don't worry, what goes around comes around. They'll get theirs eventually. (*_*)
In the U.S, we have a "Do whatever you want along as my children don't see it" policy. When the politicians found out a GTA, they knew it was very violent but they were more concerned that the game was rated Mature instead of Adult allowing minors to purchase it.Although some politicians(Hill and Bill) want to outright ban the stuff, nothing has been done yet. But with a new regime change something may happen.
SO I guess America is the west's last stand for freedom?
So long as The First Amendment isn't repealed, you Americans will always be able to cry that in any kangaroo court case the authorities try to bring against you.
Why do you think The Protect Act was so broadly worded? After the pasting the ACLU gave them the first time around, it was a pathetic attempt by the Bush Adminstration to ban everything they don't approve of, which is even now coming unravelled again.
Comes back to ye old discussion on violent games, lolicon, violent movies, violent literature, rock music, etc.
Stereotyping and assuming that only because you read/play/watch/listen to this or that type of media that "might be assotiated to criminal acts", automatically makes you a criminal too.
As always, politicians confuses their own personal tastes to "what people should do" or even "stuff people should be prohibited of doing".
Apparently, lots of them forgot what freedom of speech and liberty stands for.
Politicians all suffer from delusions of godhood to a certain extent, although some are definitely worse than others. With them, it's nothing more than a popularity contest. They are practiced liars and change direction like the wind, with them even stepping on those who supported them if it should so serve their purpose.
This is precisely why laws should never be made based entirely on such near-sighted morality. True justice is not some brutish hammer, wielded clumsily against whole swaves of otherwise innocent people. No, it is a fine sword, designed to stab at the heart of true evil; one that may well find its mark closer to home if they persist with their fascist ways.
Why does this website misspell 'rape' on purpose? It's extremely fucking stupid.
I realise Internet memes and humour may not be your strong point, but even so I am left wondering if anyone else concurs?
I certainly don't agree with anonymous, if for the sole principle of the fact that it ~can~ help fly under the radar...though I do also kind of like how raep looks...
lern2meme.
0_0
Which is why the Brits should make Max Mosley the PM.
I thought I was reading gamepolitics.com for a minute...
wowie!!o_0
Wait a minute. I call bullshit on your assetion that Japan has the lowest rate of rape and sexual assault in the world. Violent crime rates are quite low relative to the Western world, yes but are we not daily bombarded by news reports about sexual assault in Japan? On this very website? Seriously, these reports, combined with a culture that discourages women from reporting sexual assault paint a picture of a country caught in the midst of a pervert epidemic. Next time, please try keep such sickeningly blatant bias to yourself and at least pay lip service to responsible journalism.
As far as the game goes, who said anything about buying it? That's what Bittorrent is for.
Try reading the article I linked to:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/12/16/japan-lags-in-loli-ban-unicef-lies-exposed/
Just because we report on strange news for the sake of perverted readers who love to read this sort of thing does not mean Japan is more perverted than anywhere else.
The statistics are quite clear, and making up unsubstantiated arguments such as "but Japanese women are oppressed and too ashamed to report" only shows your own bias. The kind of thing you read about as national news here would in many cases have difficulty finding its way into a city newspaper in the US or UK. It presents only the most extreme and bizarre for your entertainment and edification; it is not a complete picture.
Considering you advocate piracy in the same breath as you decry "irresponsible journalism", your position is none too consistent...
I would hardly call these statistics
http://www.japantoday.com/category/kuchikomi/view/few-authorities-know-how-to-deal-with-rape-victims-in-japan
unsubstantiated.
7.2% of Japanese women report they have been sexually assaulted. Let's not forget a culture that lays the blame for rape on the victim. “There was a time when I myself wouldn’t have known what to do. I myself would have admonished her for being out in the street at night: ‘Didn’t it occur to you that it’s dangerous?’ Implicitly I would have blamed her.”
The nurse's words, not mine.
The usual orientalist claptrap from the English language Japan rags and sites.
Did you think to check what women in the west say? Here are the "women report" rates for the US:
"A study among college women has shown that 1 out of every 5 college age women report being forced to have sexual intercourse. (1995 National College Health Risk Behavior Survey) 22% of all women say that they have been forced to do sexual things against their will, where only 3% of men admit to ever forcing themselves on a woman. (Laumann, 1994)"
http://www.sa.rochester.edu/masa/stats.php
Asians overall are less likely to report crimes dealing with rape or domestic violence. 'Shame Culture' is a good study to look at. There have been documentaries and studies that show rape in Japan is a lot higher than the statistics show through the use of qualitative data accumulation (through interviews or face to face)many women are just afraid to report rape or ashamed (in retrospect; the West stats show higher rape rate, on the other hand not many through intervews). Anyone remember 'Rape Club'? That went on for 20yrs without being reported by victims via blackmail of being photographed while being assaulted (that's not to say other crimes hasn't gone unnoticed for many years also; albeit this was a pretty large organization in comparison to your frat party rape and like etc). Heck they even got their own 'Female Only' trains due to all the groping on trains. But statistics show there have been an increase of sexual harrasment even with the 'Female Only' trains. Does this mean there are more perverts? Or is it that the women are reporting more?
The Japanese have a very stigmatized society where by if something is seen shameful in their society, said person could be greatly stigmatized for it. This includes schizophrenia aswell as I've learnt in Psychology. Sexual Deviancy is just less looked at than other crimes such as theft or murder by the government. Women's sexual rights is just put in the back seat moreso than other crimes. It's a cultural thing really, some crimes are just looked at more than others depending on country. Same thing can be said about the US. If the US was more lenient towards sex and more against violence how different would that country be? By believing all countries culture to share the same positive and negative view on certain behaviour, you already fallen into 'Cultural Blindness'. HSBC advertisments are good e.g. of different culture, different view lol.
Official Statistics, especially crime, just isn't reliable. Though it gives an estimate, there are way too many factors involved as to what is considered a crime. For one, police will have their own individual belief in what should be recorded and what's not. Low statistics may suggest police just aren't doing their job. High statistics may suggest the police are doing a great job. Culture/Government view of certain crimes affects what crime should be looked at more. Statistics only show correlation, not cause and effect. This of course applies to all countries and no matter how you look at it any form of study or research is bias to begin with. Well that's my 2 cents on studies/research and quantitative/qualitative data.
The fact that many people on the sex offenders registers in the West aren't actually sex offenders of course has nothing to do with your bias against Japan and it's system of recording crimes, does it? Maybe they choose to be more sensible about things and only report actual assaults, instead of every whinger who had a wolf whistle blown in her direction, then claiming she was abused shortly afterwards.
Indeed, having studied this in depth now, America has just about the craziest laws on Earth regarding sex crimes, with even kids being convicted for quite normal sexual activity. To say nothing of people being branded for life just because they 'did it' a month before some arbitrary age set by puritans who think they just stepped off the good ship Lollipop.
It's not just the US either, in Sweden, they claim they have 402,000 sex offenders in a population of just 8 million, which equates to 1 in 20 people. Britain is no better either, and countries like Canada & Australia are paranoid as hell over it. Not to mention a rampant compensation culture, where authorities tempt people to come forward and dream up things that actually never happened.
What this equates to really is that none of the statistics are accurate, which means we are forced to rely on other means. Obviously, I can't speak for other countries, so I invite people to do that for me, but I can tell you unequivocally, that I don't feel at all safe in any of the urban areas of Britain, so God only knows what it must be like for a woman.
From everything I've studied over the last 10 years or so, I think I'd much rather be in Japan than Britain now. It may be "caught in the midst of a pervert epidemic" as you so eloquently put it (which is at best an exaggeration since only really serious crimes make the papers in the West, with the little things simply ignored on account of not making good headlines), but at least the entire country isn't on a witch hunt to burn them, just because they happen to like loli artwork.
Um, Artefact often posts offbeat news. Just because he's posting news items about someone being molested in Japan says nothing about the reality. These are hand-picked.
In fact, you're a prime example of what happens when you don't get out enough.
Well i guess ill just have to start raping in real life to fulfill my fantasies then.
That politician had better tolerate it.
If they are banning a game that puts the person in play in illegal acts such as rape, why not ban other such games that involve criminal activities such as theft or murder?
You know, if the title didn't have "Rape" in it's name, I doubt it would have gained so much publicity. Well, that's IS how it was noticed by the media in the first place.
The worst thing about this kind of censorship is how much it shows that the censors assume the public are so extremely impressionable, and it's almost like they look at the public as animals or simpletons.
This game is so hawt. I never came to hard a couple days stright.
You can run it up to 24x anti-aliasing + 16x anisotropic filtering for very smooth play.
Those fucking bastards are fucking retards.
If you ban this, then ban all videogames because you kill people in them too.
Britain never got Fallout/Fallout 2?! Or did they just never know about them?!!
I have the game Rapelay and I enjoy it very much. It is just fantasy. I think it was absolutely wrong for Amazon to stop selling that game. I think that is absolute censorship. OK, so some women don't like the content of this game. What happens if they don't like the content items that involve Christianity or Islam or Judaism? Is Amazon going to stop selling those items, too? If somebody does not like the content of the game Rapeplay, they don't have to buy it. I happen to like the game very much and what I do with that game in the privacy of my own home is my business!
Thats right, some people are just ignorant.
they don't know what they're talking about, this game is just like any other eroge, only with a raep theme in it..maybe that politician had played this eroge and was shocked that he had thought to minimize( or rather stop) the distribution of it..
well thinking over illusion policy this should have never been the case as it is technically only to be sold locally to japan (no shipping of what so ever torrents maybe but thats something else) and as expected they should not do a single thing about it
Apparently they haven't actually played the game.
I don't really like the rape aspects, but if you load up a pre-made save game, you can pick your settings such that the girl(s) are "broken" which eliminates the rape-esque aspects mostly and makes it a damned enjoyable 3D porn game. Especially with Yuuko's unreal gigantic floppy breasts. Some of us figure out how to turn the hard rape stuff OFF, you political jackass fucks.
I'm SO moving to Japan!
Ya know, what these fools don't notice is that there will always be sick fucks. having these around just helps them deal with it instead of going out and committing it, hence why japan a nation seemingly covered in depravity has such low crime rates.
most of them are happy in doors pretending to do the shit, you may feel insulted about being called a sick fuck, but it's true, ill even admit I am. so yeah. end rant.
Hell yeah! u tell them dude.It,s better like this.
Forgot all about this game until I read this, man was it a good series of faps.
On another note, I have never once had any urges to rape women in real life, because, uh, it is fucking illegal, and I would be caught because I am not nearly cunning enough to get away with that. The fact that Britain seems to be turning even more hard line against porn than America is really a sad situation. People are not idiots, we can differentiate between fantasy and reality.
Yep i absolutely concurred that.
But would you be tempted if it wasn't illegeal and you had the momentum to get away with it?
Guess opportunity does make crime.
Most people would.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges
Artefact just rocked my face.
But there is a small percentage of people who are idiots and will ruin it for the rest of us (when they go on raping/murder sprees.
Man those breasts on pic #8 are bad.. how the hell would they end up pointing upwards in that position, game lacks good physics.
It's 3D eroge, they don't rely on something as physics (then were all the big oppai would go)
to oppai hell, to make room for dfc heaven, of course!
Aww come on! there's more eroge are more twisted than Rapelay.For instance the GURO and tentacle genre are sicker than Rapelay.
So the Brits,try to become a nation free of obscenity, are they joking?
Yea... Like thats ever going to happen.
Children as young as 12 get free reign on porn here, thanks to the advent of the internet.
And if not, then we always have the tradition of faping over sheep.
Its a good eroge with twisted storyline.But still, good eroge.
Ahhhh Rapelay.
The Falcon 4.0 of rape sims.
Ah, Rapelay. It's been so long since last time. <3
True,its an epic eroge ever made.
On top of your great grammar, I'd like to point out that its probably one of the *least* 'epic' eroge ever written., but generally the 4chan kids who incorrectly use the word 'epic' have no taste anyway.
Wow,i would like to applause to your wonderful speech you must be senile geezer.
"Will Amazon.com pull products based on complaints from conservative Islamic countries, or undemocratic regimes? Could demands for censorship in the UK or elsewhere force them to remove even more of their erotic catalogue?"
I like your brand of inflammatory Action-News-esque reporting, Artefact. It's like I'm really in Amerikkka!
Now that they've said one type of product isn't ok(even though they sell plenty of pron), and another one is, it's open season for every blog reading soccer mom.Plus, this gets annoying how they always talk about japan like eroge is a national past time.How long before our dumb ass politicians try to fuck with japan?
Since when was Artefact a journalist for some huge media organization? He's just some dude like the rest of us. Go back to http://www.nytimes.com/ retard.
Though Artefact's articles are 1st tier~ X3
Actually, if you read the originating rag you find it is adopting a similar tone to what you see here, just from a different perspective and orientated towards a different audience.
I see what you did there...
Would you rather I merely gloss over the implications of the stories I report?
Sadly, I think many people would...not anyone that normally frequents here now, but how is anyone that isn't a moderator to know who any one anon is? Writing styles being as subjective as they are.
Well, fuck politicians, damn it
this will just drive people to....download it off torrents
harharhar
Most politicians are immoral and perverts.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Mio-sama shall purify you dirty souls.
I've been masturbating while reading these comments
and my penis corrupts all
huh the pictures with all the girls in the train, i dont remember that being in the game 8O
That was the trial package.. its to show how many fps can your computer handle XD
<3 Yuuko..
That politician better not hear about Biko 2,3 from illusion's .. or love death from teatime either ;_;
That's a hack, the train car's usually full of random translucent guys.
...That was the benchmark released by Illusion a short while before they released Rapeplay.
Notice the number at the bottom right? That's the counter for the number of girls currently on screen.
NOT THAT I WOULD KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT
Or so you've read, right, anonymous? -__^
ROFL
LMAO
What a coincidence? I was just reading this article on a different web site(0_0).
Its the best 3D eroge i ever played(>.<)
seconded...
Thats because 3D eroge suck.
Oh really then what's kind of game have u played then Hello Kitty eroge ((0.o)).
I played it,but does that makes me rapist?(physically).
Does killing people in Counter Strike, Grand Theft Auto and driving over speed limit and crashing cars in Need for Speed and Burnout make you criminals?
If yes, then yeah, you probably are.
Wow u sounds like a very 'Righteous' fellow r u some kind of hippy or a fag?
So thats mean's we are on the same boat? welcome aboard comrades(^.^).
Hey there!thks for yr reply.I'm touched are worried about me luv?Probably we can meet up!
What? no, I wouldn't do such horrible things like kill a policeman or a SWAT team.
Enjoy your jail.
The last time when i was in Uk,i saw images of topless or complete nude Caucasian gals in newspaper,mags,escort posters? and even games mags.But what with their new interest in abolishing pornography materials?
Britain (from what I've observed through living here all of my life) has a fairly schizophrenic attitude to sex. Page 3 Girls and their ilk are an extension of the smutty-seaside-postcard side of the British mind, but Britons also have a good capacity for unthinking moral outrage, which may be one of the vestiges of the Victorian period.
Well its a good thing Jack Thompson didn't get involve in this. But so what if Amazon pull out the sales, there are many torrents and downloads as well as patches for this game that the government can't do shit to stop this.....
You're damn right brother!
If nobody could have sold it, it wouldn't have been made in the first place.
Indeed, the point is not that they are doing something about this one game, but that what they do to this one game will be done to others that aren't as immoral, and therefore discourages production of said good to begin with.