Whether by way of deliberate tribute, sheer lack of originality or otherwise, the similarities between the new Gundam 00 2nd Season OP and the OP for magical girl anime Precure (Pretty Cure) have not escaped the notice of the comparative engine that is 2ch. You can view the OPs below.
It’s not clear why such extreme (beyond coincidental we might think, though still perhaps not deliberate) similarity should exist.
The poses really aren’t the same, and at least with the 00 opening there is an element of symbolism to the poses. With Precure it’s just girls with feathers, as far as I can tell
Personally I like the song… It’s just doesn’t fit with Gundam stereotype… Oh well it’s just a personal reference so don’t mind the comment.. Besides, this series is already become a piece of trash anyway…
Actually, there IS a pattern. Gundam Seed, Gundam Seed Destiny, Code Geass…they all had a final OP that wasn’t really……”there” with the rest of them. Just didn’t fit it. I think it’s a way of saying “it’s almost over” and “evrything will be fine”
Pretty Cure is way, way more popular in Japan right now than Gundam 00 is. It sells more merch, has better ratings, and more people could tell you what it is.
Gundam 00 is hardly known at all outside of Akihabara set, all the main train lines are advertising Zeta Gundam stuff still.
“No one knows Pretty Cure, who cares.”
I fell off my chair laughing at that statement. Dude, just because you don’t doesn’t mean everyone else doesn’t as well.
Surely it would make sense to compare the butterflies in the Gundam 00 opening with the butterflies in Turn A Gundam?
Turn A Gundam uses an attack called Moonlight Butterfly, and the 2nd ED Diana transforms into a butterfly with the colours blue, red, yellow and purple.
And if you look at Asian mythology, what do butterflies signify?
Well I’m a bit rough on it myself, but a person who dies can be reincarnated as a butterfly, if you look at all those four characters, they’ve lost someone important to them:
Sumeragi – her crew and her ‘love interest;
Feldt – Lockon Stratos
Louise – both her parents, and maybe her love for Sagi?
Tieria – Lockon Stratos
And honestly, I don’t think there would be many people here who have watched Pretty Cure and defend it over Gundam 00, if anything, it’s just people being biased towards Gundam.
Lol, Artefact stirring the pot again without doing his background and fact-checking research. I guess I should mention now that Toei and Bandai are partners and that if any part of the new opening was meant to be an homage to the Precure intro then they probably procured permission. Call me when there’s any news of Toei ACTUALLY suing Bandai/Sunrise and let’s just leave 2ch to it’s own affairs.
Who says I don’t like this one? Anything that leaves me a chance to add something new to the conversation I consider worth my time in reading, even it happened to be the brainchild of little more then 2ch speculation.
I couldn’t care less either way. You may have noticed I merely reported the comparison and then posed it as a question – I certainly did not accuse them of plagiarism, and I suggested it may be a tribute – there’s no evidence either way, so it’s best left to readers. So enough of that.
huuh? that’s it? you made me watch both the op closely only to find woman and loli in the other whatever series “touching something” for the similiarities.wow so called “Plagiarism Doubts”. :meh:
People nowaday know how to make big deal out of nothing
lol hahahahaha this is so funny. If that’s plagiarism then it’s start to suing Gainax for completely ripping out scenes from older mecha shows to use in Gurren Lagann.
That’s…RATHER hardly called plagarism. Tribute maybe, referenced most likely, but plagarism is rather too much to be referred as, considering the only similar is the color and the usage of butterflies (okay maybe Anew’s pose).
I wouldn’t call this plagiarism… hah. Not at all.
Besides this concept isn’t even original I wouldn’t be surprised if there was no relation whatsoever!
And in the case there is, perhaps it’s a tribute, perhaps someone’s a pretty cure fan and came up with the idea to put it in the OP for a show that should have NOTHING to do with precure, or maybe someone on the staff worked for the precure anime. Who knows? I don’t really care. It looks good. I like butterflies.
just let them be. in japan, copying things that were seen in another series is considered a way of honoring the series that came before. it is a part of their culture. so what would be called plagiarism in other parts of the world is called respect in japan. but only in the anime studio sense.
Different order, and the Precure girls are moving, so it’s not hard to catch a still image that resembles that of 00. Besides, except for Anew’s, their poses are actually very different.
Generally, although plagiarism is often loosely referred to as theft or stealing, it has not been set as a criminal matter in the courts.[6] Likewise, plagiarism has no standing as a criminal offense in the common law. Instead, claims of plagiarism are a civil law matter, which an aggrieved person can resolve by launching a lawsuit. Acts that may constitute plagiarism are in some instances treated as copyright infringement, unfair competition, or a violation of the doctrine of moral rights. The increased availability of intellectual property due to a rise in technology has furthered the debate as to whether copyright offences are criminal.
On what grounds do the OP of Gundam 00 s2 copied the OP of Precure? I started counting precure and they have 5 while 00 have only 4 (butterfly passing by a girl). And I noticed the 4 fem’s of 00 have serious faces while precure have happy ones. For not being biased why are the people here being bothered of this similarities (not plagiarism) cause the concept of the 2 are different in most ways. If you consider this plagriarism then many other anime must be define also a copycat. Similarities cannot be avoided but for heaven’s sake lets judge all them fairly. But if your still biased with this issue the hell are you reading this comment!!! :)
Hey 2ch!
Nice propaganda against Gundam 00. :)
Hope this satisfy your urge in complaining…..
“honestly, i don’t really see any issues from it since old concepts are renewed and reused all the time. somebody’s just trying to stir the pot, so to speak. the people complaining should be the affected company, not the fans.
if toei had issued a lawsuit against sunrise then i would take this article seriously. otherwise, 2ch or anyone else who issued this ought to be sued for libel if sunrise considers such public statements as damaging to their business. ” => (got this from other forums and I damn Agree!!)
Your damn right. Actually, we all expected them not to make it. :)
And dont go confusing the fans and the public cause the 2 animes dont bother in their “similarities not plagiarism”. Your just making out an issue out of yourself!
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Just the same hair color…
And the pose….
That is called a plagiarism
The poses really aren’t the same, and at least with the 00 opening there is an element of symbolism to the poses. With Precure it’s just girls with feathers, as far as I can tell
and colored butterflies
and background color…
I KNEW IT!!!
ha!!!
EPIC FAIL for this series…
First the shitty story in the 2nd season and now a suspect of plagiarism… Oh please Sunrise, enough of this nonsense that you have made already…
They see me trolling…
LOL
Sunrise sucks :~
oh how we know this
Gundam “tribute” to Pretty Cure???
Nice… someone in the Gundam 00 staff is fan of magical girls Precure :P
I’d call it a tribute, Sunrise giving a shout-out to their favorite magical little girls
Screw Plagiarism. This one’s better and hotter.
Screw Pretty Cure. Who the heck watches that.
Screw 2ch. Do I need a reason?
BTW, is the last one Sumeragi or Tieria? O_o
And screw you for being ignorant…..
Ignorant to what?
for the plagiarism..
It’s a serious case actually…
Maybe inspired by, and as a tribute. I doubt a production like this would be pressed to find ideas for an opening animation.
this one is better.
wtf is pretty cure.
fuck 2ch they need lives.
and screw anon you dont know jack shit
I Felt the Grace. <3
Nice one
Yeah…like this is the first time this happenes.
To be 100% fair, only the one with Anew is exactly the same. It’s either a trbuite, or someone though it would be funny.
Added in the OPs…
The new OP song is horrible anyway.
maybe they did it as an excuse to use a new one.
Personally I like the song… It’s just doesn’t fit with Gundam stereotype… Oh well it’s just a personal reference so don’t mind the comment.. Besides, this series is already become a piece of trash anyway…
“Gundam Stereotype”, please enlighten me to as what this consists of.
JUST WILD BEAT COMMUNICATION
FLYIN’ IN THE SKY
MEN OF DESTINY
Actually, there IS a pattern. Gundam Seed, Gundam Seed Destiny, Code Geass…they all had a final OP that wasn’t really……”there” with the rest of them. Just didn’t fit it. I think it’s a way of saying “it’s almost over” and “evrything will be fine”
Not exactly plagiarism. For the op to be plagiarized , it would have to be exactly the same.
uh, no…something does not have to be the same to be plagiarized.
Oh lol. Anyone REALLY believe that Sunrise STEAL smthing from some shitty mahou-shoujo series?
Btw, S2 openings sucks, Ash Like Snow and Daybreak`s Bell was much better.
Why not?
Now Sunrise is really sucks…
http://s03.2log.net/home/yosaba/kyap1/jinki/jinki34.jpg
Kinda surprised this hasn’t been posted.
Let me fix that for you…
I don’t know anything about Jinki, but oh wow
No one knows Pretty Cure, who cares. Everybody knows Gundam, so 00 series has the right to do it.
I beg to differ. The Pretty Cure franchise is the biggest thing in the magical girl genre since Sailor Moon.
Pretty Cure is way, way more popular in Japan right now than Gundam 00 is. It sells more merch, has better ratings, and more people could tell you what it is.
Gundam 00 is hardly known at all outside of Akihabara set, all the main train lines are advertising Zeta Gundam stuff still.
Oh for Haruhi’s sake…
In terms of story, Pretty Cure is way better than Gundam 00s2… That’s the truth…
And how stupid can u be? Plagiarism is a plagiarism..
“No one knows Pretty Cure, who cares.”
I fell off my chair laughing at that statement. Dude, just because you don’t doesn’t mean everyone else doesn’t as well.
Sorry if Iam not a fag who watches all shoujo series. ^^
Don’t be sorry about that. It’s completely normal. :P
and I though that it was a whole sequence in the op to be copy to be called “Plagiarism”
It just four hot ladies touching a butterfly (=_=)
can’t helped to detect certain hatred and biasness for gundam or sunrise series
PS: who watch pretty cure anyway
agreed here such a letdown. I though that it would be a carbon copy or something. And that series pretty cure something what are they touching?
no fun
I sorta see a resemblance but it’s kind of different in a way. Plus, I can’t imagine the director to be the type to watch magical girls shows.
Surely it would make sense to compare the butterflies in the Gundam 00 opening with the butterflies in Turn A Gundam?
Turn A Gundam uses an attack called Moonlight Butterfly, and the 2nd ED Diana transforms into a butterfly with the colours blue, red, yellow and purple.
And if you look at Asian mythology, what do butterflies signify?
Well I’m a bit rough on it myself, but a person who dies can be reincarnated as a butterfly, if you look at all those four characters, they’ve lost someone important to them:
Sumeragi – her crew and her ‘love interest;
Feldt – Lockon Stratos
Louise – both her parents, and maybe her love for Sagi?
Tieria – Lockon Stratos
And honestly, I don’t think there would be many people here who have watched Pretty Cure and defend it over Gundam 00, if anything, it’s just people being biased towards Gundam.
That’s ANEW, not Tieria.
AHAHA TIERA AHAHAH
Lol, Artefact stirring the pot again without doing his background and fact-checking research. I guess I should mention now that Toei and Bandai are partners and that if any part of the new opening was meant to be an homage to the Precure intro then they probably procured permission. Call me when there’s any news of Toei ACTUALLY suing Bandai/Sunrise and let’s just leave 2ch to it’s own affairs.
Artefact trolls?
Stirring the pot/=trolling. ;)
You seemed to like my Mizushima post, at least!
Who says I don’t like this one? Anything that leaves me a chance to add something new to the conversation I consider worth my time in reading, even it happened to be the brainchild of little more then 2ch speculation.
I couldn’t care less either way. You may have noticed I merely reported the comparison and then posed it as a question – I certainly did not accuse them of plagiarism, and I suggested it may be a tribute – there’s no evidence either way, so it’s best left to readers. So enough of that.
If it wasn’t for 2ch, no one would have seen the comparison between Gundam 00 and Pretty Cure.
Don’t see why so many people are raging and calling it fail.
The opening is just a trainwreck, all there is to it.
There are actually girls in gundam? never watch the franchised coz only full of bishie
huuh? that’s it? you made me watch both the op closely only to find woman and loli in the other whatever series “touching something” for the similiarities.wow so called “Plagiarism Doubts”. :meh:
People nowaday know how to make big deal out of nothing
I didn’t make you do anything. Just look at the comparison image and make up your mind from that.
Quoting Tomoya from CLANNAD
“As usual, he is easy to manipulate.”
lol hahahahaha this is so funny. If that’s plagiarism then it’s start to suing Gainax for completely ripping out scenes from older mecha shows to use in Gurren Lagann.
Remember kids, proof reading your comments is good. “If that’s plagiarism then it’s time to start suing”. Fixed my own stupidity.
That’s…RATHER hardly called plagarism. Tribute maybe, referenced most likely, but plagarism is rather too much to be referred as, considering the only similar is the color and the usage of butterflies (okay maybe Anew’s pose).
I wonder if anyone has taken the Pretty cure opening and see if they could match it up with the Gundam opening images XD
I wouldn’t call this plagiarism… hah. Not at all.
Besides this concept isn’t even original I wouldn’t be surprised if there was no relation whatsoever!
And in the case there is, perhaps it’s a tribute, perhaps someone’s a pretty cure fan and came up with the idea to put it in the OP for a show that should have NOTHING to do with precure, or maybe someone on the staff worked for the precure anime. Who knows? I don’t really care. It looks good. I like butterflies.
Terrible OP.
Too funny.
I guess some of the guys in the staff were slacking
some of the scene’s where ok but the song sucks for this series
this would have been better of as the ending…
Wow the fact that you people are complanig about this is hilarious!
Tribute to a show that’s still on the air. Makes perfect sense!
DURR HURR… where mah naked Marina?
just let them be. in japan, copying things that were seen in another series is considered a way of honoring the series that came before. it is a part of their culture. so what would be called plagiarism in other parts of the world is called respect in japan. but only in the anime studio sense.
if this was youtube id give you a thumbs up
Well this series has failed to amuse me. The new OP theme is good but it didn’t fit Gundam image. A bit.. too POP? ;_;
explain all the op’s to the seed series. isnt that more pop?
LOL somehow I feel really stupid to actually jump from my seat seeing Plagiarism words. REading in detail and watching the op only to find ……..(@_@)
aah well whatever
Why do people really like to point out and makes a fuss about negative things…..
In my point of view it’s not plagiarism, like allelujah_fan said it’s respect for the others.
OMG, THEY CHANGE LOCK-ON INTO SQUIRRELL!! xD
No offense but This kind of stupid and a really big one at that. wonder if people at 2ch actually took this really seriously
so. . when we will see the gundam 00 girls had “henshin scene”?
:3
Different order, and the Precure girls are moving, so it’s not hard to catch a still image that resembles that of 00. Besides, except for Anew’s, their poses are actually very different.
who the fuck cares?? The story is the most important
are most people at 2ch having brain damage or something?
Generally, although plagiarism is often loosely referred to as theft or stealing, it has not been set as a criminal matter in the courts.[6] Likewise, plagiarism has no standing as a criminal offense in the common law. Instead, claims of plagiarism are a civil law matter, which an aggrieved person can resolve by launching a lawsuit. Acts that may constitute plagiarism are in some instances treated as copyright infringement, unfair competition, or a violation of the doctrine of moral rights. The increased availability of intellectual property due to a rise in technology has furthered the debate as to whether copyright offences are criminal.
On what grounds do the OP of Gundam 00 s2 copied the OP of Precure? I started counting precure and they have 5 while 00 have only 4 (butterfly passing by a girl). And I noticed the 4 fem’s of 00 have serious faces while precure have happy ones. For not being biased why are the people here being bothered of this similarities (not plagiarism) cause the concept of the 2 are different in most ways. If you consider this plagriarism then many other anime must be define also a copycat. Similarities cannot be avoided but for heaven’s sake lets judge all them fairly. But if your still biased with this issue the hell are you reading this comment!!! :)
let us just wait if Sunrise is sued in this matter and find out the result. But for now the 2 anime are good in their own way.
The stupidiest and ridicilous things I’ve ever seen. ah 2ch what have you become to…..
it’s beginning to look like some sort of smear campaign. 2ch should be sued for libel.
i know pretty cure but who the fuk cares , im not a queer who watch a gay kiddy shows ..gundam 00
all the way man unless ur a fag
Hey 2ch!
Nice propaganda against Gundam 00. :)
Hope this satisfy your urge in complaining…..
“honestly, i don’t really see any issues from it since old concepts are renewed and reused all the time. somebody’s just trying to stir the pot, so to speak. the people complaining should be the affected company, not the fans.
if toei had issued a lawsuit against sunrise then i would take this article seriously. otherwise, 2ch or anyone else who issued this ought to be sued for libel if sunrise considers such public statements as damaging to their business. ” => (got this from other forums and I damn Agree!!)
Have a nice Day! :)
Heh. Plagiarism or some kind of symbolic irony; unlike mahou shoujos, I’m betting at least some of those ladies won’t make it to the end.
yep some similarities, not plagiarism.
Your damn right. Actually, we all expected them not to make it. :)
And dont go confusing the fans and the public cause the 2 animes dont bother in their “similarities not plagiarism”. Your just making out an issue out of yourself!
:):):) Thanks for the comment!
why can’t someone said “similarities not plagiarism”??
i think you people exaggarating things here
Still the OO girls own these pretty cure girls
Gundam > Precure
mechas beat girly sailormoons anytime!!