Gundam 00 2nd Season Precure Plagiarism Doubts



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    Comment by Gin-sama
    10:29 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well this series has failed to amuse me. The new OP theme is good but it didn't fit Gundam image. A bit.. too POP? ;_;

    Comment by exia
    10:56 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    explain all the op's to the seed series. isnt that more pop?

    Comment by kakaka
    11:54 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL somehow I feel really stupid to actually jump from my seat seeing Plagiarism words. REading in detail and watching the op only to find ........(@_@)

    aah well whatever

    Comment by kaimax
    12:28 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why do people really like to point out and makes a fuss about negative things.....

    In my point of view it's not plagiarism, like allelujah_fan said it's respect for the others.

    Comment by taishi tetora
    16:33 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    so. . when we will see the gundam 00 girls had "henshin scene"?
    :3

    Comment by Gorogoro
    12:31 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No offense but This kind of stupid and a really big one at that. wonder if people at 2ch actually took this really seriously

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:31 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    OMG, THEY CHANGE LOCK-ON INTO SQUIRRELL!! xD

    Comment by twin blades
    08:25 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow the fact that you people are complanig about this is hilarious!

    Comment by Techeese
    07:54 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I guess some of the guys in the staff were slacking

    some of the scene's where ok but the song sucks for this series

    this would have been better of as the ending...

    Comment by dmil666
    Comment by pKjd
    09:14 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Tribute to a show that's still on the air. Makes perfect sense!

    Comment by allelujah_fan
    09:50 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    just let them be. in japan, copying things that were seen in another series is considered a way of honoring the series that came before. it is a part of their culture. so what would be called plagiarism in other parts of the world is called respect in japan. but only in the anime studio sense.

    Comment by exia
    10:55 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    if this was youtube id give you a thumbs up

    Comment by Aoshi
    09:25 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    DURR HURR... where mah naked Marina?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:46 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Different order, and the Precure girls are moving, so it's not hard to catch a still image that resembles that of 00. Besides, except for Anew's, their poses are actually very different.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:27 13/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Heh. Plagiarism or some kind of symbolic irony; unlike mahou shoujos, I'm betting at least some of those ladies won't make it to the end.

    Comment by plagiarism101
    11:28 13/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey 2ch!
    Nice propaganda against Gundam 00. :)
    Hope this satisfy your urge in complaining.....

    "honestly, i don't really see any issues from it since old concepts are renewed and reused all the time. somebody's just trying to stir the pot, so to speak. the people complaining should be the affected company, not the fans.
    if toei had issued a lawsuit against sunrise then i would take this article seriously. otherwise, 2ch or anyone else who issued this ought to be sued for libel if sunrise considers such public statements as damaging to their business. " => (got this from other forums and I damn Agree!!)

    Have a nice Day! :)

    Comment by gundam00
    08:50 13/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i know pretty cure but who the fuk cares , im not a queer who watch a gay kiddy shows ..gundam 00
    all the way man unless ur a fag

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:58 11/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Still the OO girls own these pretty cure girls

    Gundam > Precure

    mechas beat girly sailormoons anytime!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:08 15/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    why can't someone said “similarities not plagiarism”??

    i think you people exaggarating things here

    Comment by plagiarism101
    16:13 14/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Your damn right. Actually, we all expected them not to make it. :)

    And dont go confusing the fans and the public cause the 2 animes dont bother in their "similarities not plagiarism". Your just making out an issue out of yourself!

    :):):) Thanks for the comment!

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:05 14/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yep some similarities, not plagiarism.

    Comment by plagiarism101
    20:11 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Generally, although plagiarism is often loosely referred to as theft or stealing, it has not been set as a criminal matter in the courts.[6] Likewise, plagiarism has no standing as a criminal offense in the common law. Instead, claims of plagiarism are a civil law matter, which an aggrieved person can resolve by launching a lawsuit. Acts that may constitute plagiarism are in some instances treated as copyright infringement, unfair competition, or a violation of the doctrine of moral rights. The increased availability of intellectual property due to a rise in technology has furthered the debate as to whether copyright offences are criminal.

    Comment by J.C
    19:59 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    are most people at 2ch having brain damage or something?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:58 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    who the fuck cares?? The story is the most important

    Comment by plagiarism101
    20:22 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    On what grounds do the OP of Gundam 00 s2 copied the OP of Precure? I started counting precure and they have 5 while 00 have only 4 (butterfly passing by a girl). And I noticed the 4 fem's of 00 have serious faces while precure have happy ones. For not being biased why are the people here being bothered of this similarities (not plagiarism) cause the concept of the 2 are different in most ways. If you consider this plagriarism then many other anime must be define also a copycat. Similarities cannot be avoided but for heaven's sake lets judge all them fairly. But if your still biased with this issue the hell are you reading this comment!!! :)

    Comment by plagiarism101
    20:24 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    let us just wait if Sunrise is sued in this matter and find out the result. But for now the 2 anime are good in their own way.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:46 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    it's beginning to look like some sort of smear campaign. 2ch should be sued for libel.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:33 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The stupidiest and ridicilous things I've ever seen. ah 2ch what have you become to.....

    Comment by Shyster
    05:45 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Terrible OP.

    Comment by Mechwarrior
    03:07 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not exactly plagiarism. For the op to be plagiarized , it would have to be exactly the same.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:04 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    uh, no...something does not have to be the same to be plagiarized.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:28 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh lol. Anyone REALLY believe that Sunrise STEAL smthing from some shitty mahou-shoujo series?

    Btw, S2 openings sucks, Ash Like Snow and Daybreak`s Bell was much better.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:39 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why not?

    Now Sunrise is really sucks...

    Comment by Sleepy
    03:40 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    http://s03.2log.net/home/yosaba/kyap1/jinki/jinki34.jpg

    Kinda surprised this hasn't been posted.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:07 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know anything about Jinki, but oh wow

    Comment by Artefact

    Let me fix that for you...

    Comment by Hyugafenrir
    02:53 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The new OP song is horrible anyway.

    maybe they did it as an excuse to use a new one.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:06 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Personally I like the song... It's just doesn't fit with Gundam stereotype... Oh well it's just a personal reference so don't mind the comment.. Besides, this series is already become a piece of trash anyway...

    Comment by DmonHiro
    20:19 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually, there IS a pattern. Gundam Seed, Gundam Seed Destiny, Code Geass...they all had a final OP that wasn't really......"there" with the rest of them. Just didn't fit it. I think it's a way of saying "it's almost over" and "evrything will be fine"

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:15 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Gundam Stereotype", please enlighten me to as what this consists of.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:10 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    JUST WILD BEAT COMMUNICATION

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:39 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    FLYIN' IN THE SKY

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:34 13/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    MEN OF DESTINY

    Comment by I
    02:21 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL
    Sunrise sucks :~

    Comment by Anon
    03:26 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh how we know this

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:18 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I KNEW IT!!!

    ha!!!

    EPIC FAIL for this series...

    First the shitty story in the 2nd season and now a suspect of plagiarism... Oh please Sunrise, enough of this nonsense that you have made already...

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:07 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They see me trolling...

    Comment by Evi1d33d
    02:17 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just the same hair color...

    Comment by Anon
    03:25 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and colored butterflies

    Comment by chad001
    12:11 13/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and background color...

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:30 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And the pose....

    That is called a plagiarism

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:47 13/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The poses really aren't the same, and at least with the 00 opening there is an element of symbolism to the poses. With Precure it's just girls with feathers, as far as I can tell

    Comment by Saouri
    02:33 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gundam "tribute" to Pretty Cure???
    Nice... someone in the Gundam 00 staff is fan of magical girls Precure :P

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:34 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd call it a tribute, Sunrise giving a shout-out to their favorite magical little girls

    Comment by Artefact
    02:42 12/01/2009 # ! Impenetrable

    Added in the OPs...

    Comment by DmonHiro
    02:41 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah...like this is the first time this happenes.

    To be 100% fair, only the one with Anew is exactly the same. It's either a trbuite, or someone though it would be funny.

    Comment by kenjiharima
    02:38 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I Felt the Grace. <3

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    Comment by Anonymous
    02:38 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Screw Plagiarism. This one's better and hotter.
    Screw Pretty Cure. Who the heck watches that.
    Screw 2ch. Do I need a reason?

    BTW, is the last one Sumeragi or Tieria? O_o

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:01 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And screw you for being ignorant.....

    Comment by exia
    10:10 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    this one is better.
    wtf is pretty cure.
    fuck 2ch they need lives.

    and screw anon you dont know jack shit

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:23 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ignorant to what?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:37 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe inspired by, and as a tribute. I doubt a production like this would be pressed to find ideas for an opening animation.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:31 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    for the plagiarism..
    It's a serious case actually...

    Comment by Don
    03:56 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No one knows Pretty Cure, who cares. Everybody knows Gundam, so 00 series has the right to do it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:51 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh for Haruhi's sake...

    In terms of story, Pretty Cure is way better than Gundam 00s2... That's the truth...

    And how stupid can u be? Plagiarism is a plagiarism..

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:55 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pretty Cure is way, way more popular in Japan right now than Gundam 00 is. It sells more merch, has better ratings, and more people could tell you what it is.

    Gundam 00 is hardly known at all outside of Akihabara set, all the main train lines are advertising Zeta Gundam stuff still.

    Comment by BuggyBY
    09:31 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I beg to differ. The Pretty Cure franchise is the biggest thing in the magical girl genre since Sailor Moon.

    Comment by SnooSnoo
    23:29 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "No one knows Pretty Cure, who cares."
    I fell off my chair laughing at that statement. Dude, just because you don't doesn't mean everyone else doesn't as well.

    Comment by Don
    00:45 13/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry if Iam not a fag who watches all shoujo series. ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:30 14/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't be sorry about that. It's completely normal. :P

    Comment by NIghtwing
    04:01 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and I though that it was a whole sequence in the op to be copy to be called "Plagiarism"

    It just four hot ladies touching a butterfly (=_=)

    can't helped to detect certain hatred and biasness for gundam or sunrise series

    PS: who watch pretty cure anyway

    Comment by Alexus_Z3
    04:05 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    agreed here such a letdown. I though that it would be a carbon copy or something. And that series pretty cure something what are they touching?

    no fun

    Comment by Tess
    05:43 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wouldn't call this plagiarism... hah. Not at all.
    Besides this concept isn't even original I wouldn't be surprised if there was no relation whatsoever!

    And in the case there is, perhaps it's a tribute, perhaps someone's a pretty cure fan and came up with the idea to put it in the OP for a show that should have NOTHING to do with precure, or maybe someone on the staff worked for the precure anime. Who knows? I don't really care. It looks good. I like butterflies.

    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    05:27 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wonder if anyone has taken the Pretty cure opening and see if they could match it up with the Gundam opening images XD

    Comment by Iluna
    05:14 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's...RATHER hardly called plagarism. Tribute maybe, referenced most likely, but plagarism is rather too much to be referred as, considering the only similar is the color and the usage of butterflies (okay maybe Anew's pose).

    Comment by winter
    04:18 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I sorta see a resemblance but it's kind of different in a way. Plus, I can't imagine the director to be the type to watch magical girls shows.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:22 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Surely it would make sense to compare the butterflies in the Gundam 00 opening with the butterflies in Turn A Gundam?

    Turn A Gundam uses an attack called Moonlight Butterfly, and the 2nd ED Diana transforms into a butterfly with the colours blue, red, yellow and purple.

    And if you look at Asian mythology, what do butterflies signify?

    Well I'm a bit rough on it myself, but a person who dies can be reincarnated as a butterfly, if you look at all those four characters, they've lost someone important to them:
    Sumeragi - her crew and her 'love interest;
    Feldt - Lockon Stratos
    Louise - both her parents, and maybe her love for Sagi?
    Tieria - Lockon Stratos

    And honestly, I don't think there would be many people here who have watched Pretty Cure and defend it over Gundam 00, if anything, it's just people being biased towards Gundam.

    Comment by FOG
    09:29 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's ANEW, not Tieria.

    Comment by exia
    10:11 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    AHAHA TIERA AHAHAH

    Comment by Jin Saotome
    04:36 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol hahahahaha this is so funny. If that's plagiarism then it's start to suing Gainax for completely ripping out scenes from older mecha shows to use in Gurren Lagann.

    Comment by Jin Saotome
    04:40 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Remember kids, proof reading your comments is good. "If that's plagiarism then it's time to start suing". Fixed my own stupidity.

    Comment by FlameGod
    04:33 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    huuh? that's it? you made me watch both the op closely only to find woman and loli in the other whatever series "touching something" for the similiarities.wow so called "Plagiarism Doubts". :meh:

    People nowaday know how to make big deal out of nothing

    Comment by SnooSnoo
    23:33 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Quoting Tomoya from CLANNAD
    "As usual, he is easy to manipulate."

    Comment by Artefact

    I didn't make you do anything. Just look at the comparison image and make up your mind from that.

    Comment by navi410
    04:27 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There are actually girls in gundam? never watch the franchised coz only full of bishie

    Comment by Kaioshin Sama
    04:26 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol, Artefact stirring the pot again without doing his background and fact-checking research. I guess I should mention now that Toei and Bandai are partners and that if any part of the new opening was meant to be an homage to the Precure intro then they probably procured permission. Call me when there's any news of Toei ACTUALLY suing Bandai/Sunrise and let's just leave 2ch to it's own affairs.

    Comment by Buri
    06:06 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The opening is just a trainwreck, all there is to it.

    Comment by Artefact

    I couldn't care less either way. You may have noticed I merely reported the comparison and then posed it as a question - I certainly did not accuse them of plagiarism, and I suggested it may be a tribute - there's no evidence either way, so it's best left to readers. So enough of that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:01 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If it wasn't for 2ch, no one would have seen the comparison between Gundam 00 and Pretty Cure.

    Don't see why so many people are raging and calling it fail.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:42 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Artefact trolls?

    Comment by Kaioshin Sama
    04:44 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Stirring the pot/=trolling. ;)

    Comment by Quen
    04:49 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You seemed to like my Mizushima post, at least!

    Comment by Kaioshin Sama
    05:25 12/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who says I don't like this one? Anything that leaves me a chance to add something new to the conversation I consider worth my time in reading, even it happened to be the brainchild of little more then 2ch speculation.




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