Kannagi Ceases Publication: Otaku Blamed
- Categories: Manga, News
- Date: Dec 5, 2008 21:48 JST
- Tags: Cancellations, ComicREX, Eri Takenashi, Kannagi, Nagi, Otaku
In a shocking and unexpected development, crazy shrine maiden manga Kannagi has ceased publication indefinitely. Fingers have instantly been pointed at the recent extreme actions of otaku “fans”.
The announcement, carried in the latest issue of ComicREX (where Kannagi is serialised), states that the health of mangaka 武梨えり/ Eri Takenashi is unsound, and so publication is to be suspended with immediate effect.
The magazine begs the forbearance of fans in awaiting further developments, but gives no timeframe for a resumption of publication, and gives no further information on what prompted the suspension.
Further details of publication are set to be published in ComicREX as they arise.
Since no specific reason for the “ill health” is given, speculation that this is related to the recent storm of criticism over the so-called “second-hand Nagi” issue is rife.
Some say that as the author is a lady, she may have been particularly upset over the recent fracas – whilst perhaps unfair, this does have at least a ring of truth to it. Certainly, with such maniacally excessive behaviour on display, few could fail to understand how the author might be affected.
Of course, there is the possibility of a genuine illness.
I am sure Kannagi fans will join me in wishing Takenashi a swift recovery from whatever ails her, and in cursing the wretched virgin hunting otaku who may be responsible. Let us hope Kannagi does not join the unhappy ranks of abandoned manga never to be resumed, or worse…
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LOL Fucking otakus...
I just hope mangaka doesn't stop Kannagi :<
Sales are good, and, stupid otakus like that one are a minory... (rigth....? lol)
So, let's hope Kannagi keeps going after a little break :)
Fucking otaku's. If they don't fucking like it, why the fuck do they have to fucking ruin it for everyone else. FUCK!
After some research and an incredibly dangerous espionage mission. I have found out that the true reason behind this shitstorm is due to otakus raging over the fact that someone like Nagi(not attractive, nothing special, according to them) is a non-virgin. While they(the otakus), who are handsome, smart, prince-charming-like couldn't get laid. What Japan needs to do is get a bunch of sluts and offer free sex to these people before they die from getting buried in their manga in the event of an earthquake.
Stupid dumbass 2channers. No wonder everyone wants to beat the crap out of otaku's. I feel like going to Japan just to punch one of em in the face.Ach!
Damn! Why good anime become like this.. Let's just hope that the manga will continue on after this incident. Come on!
Haha, yeah right. I Highly doubt it's because of the otaku.
- She really might be ill. I hope she gets well if she is.
- It might be because there's some internal problems with the author & the publisher (legal, financial etc). This might be a PR move.
@SnooSnoo
I've read that incident happen to a manga collector. I think it happened a couple of years ago.
It was a few months ago.....
Somehow I can see TYPE-MOON (Eri Takenashi is on good terms with them) trolling the virgin-loving fans in their future games.
They already did quite nice with Sakura in Fate/Stay night (and hell, Saber is not a virgin either).
If I'm not mistaken, she's actually a staff member for TYPE-MOON, so yeah, she'd be on good terms with them. XD
Seriously, Artefact. We need an account/membership system, and we need it FAST. Allowing anonymous comments was never a good idea to begin with. I suggest utilizing the channel accounts as a short term solution.
There is one (you're welcome to make an account as a few of the more cunning users have done), but what's the point? I'm completely comfortable with anonymous comments, and frankly the quality of anonymous comments is at least as high as the average persona based comments, if not higher.
The worst comments people make when they are defending a persona exceed the worst we see from anon, in my experience.
Of course, the extremely liberal moderation strategy I prefer is another issue entirely.
That said, this is something I am constantly evaluating, so a change is not out of the question, but I see no need at present.
Artefact, you handle the Anonymous very well, and should be commended for that.
I think its a shame to see a popular series go, but with the fanaticism of its followers regarding both Nagi and issues concerning her, I think it might be a bit expected. I can only hope that this wasn't caused by a tragedy such as that of Hiromu Minato. That kind of thing is something I never want to read about again.
Hopefully she will resume the publication after the fanbase settles down a little.
There is? Where do I sign up then? I sure don't see a login button or similar anywhere around the site. Until now I was thinking that the orange user names just indicate that the commenter has left a url for his/her blog/homepage/whatever...
I'd have to agree that almost all anonymous comments so far (this news being the main exception?) have been of surprisingly high quality, it's just that trolls that don't even notice that they're trolls, like TheFluff a few dozen comments above, would have to account for their ignorance that way. But yeah, viewed with 2 days distance, it's not really that bad yet.
It's hidden as there's not terribly much point in signing up.
The orange names do just indicate an url - the only difference when logged in is essentially that you do not have to enter your details into the comment form (though browsers usually do this automatically).
Well, registering does provide a way for someone to be accounted for their action, but it can be circumvented.
Besides, registering is such a pain.
I stopped caring for news like this a long time ago. Its so I don't get too disappointed if something bad happened. If I snapped, I'd probably make a sacrifice or two to punish those responsible.
Japan, its fucking weird.
otaku is such egoist fag!!
THEY DONT CARE ABOUT MANGAKA, THEY ONLY CARE WHAT THEY CREATED!!
Judging from what I heard about the lifestyle of a mangaka, I am not surprised that she has fallen ill. She BETTER watch her health and get well soon! I still need my comedy fix!
....tsk... i hate those stupid fake otakus they could go burn in hell!!
Okay someone needs to pay for this...but how will this effect Kannagi? (if it goes past 13 eps).
I don't think this will affect the anime..
Looking from the development, Kannagi anime is full of jokes and parody in a good way.. Not like in the manga. The manga is more serious than anime IMO....
the anime is set for 12/13 eps and maybe it will not even reach the half of the manga story.
I think there could be a second season. But I can clearly imagine how those idiots are objecting to it.
I hope so.. But looking from the situation, I think 2nd season Kannagi is impossible.....
Crazy Otakus are the one who's responsible.. Maybe we can't see the epicness of this series anymore because of them...
die 2ch, die.
LOL HxH.
@Ryu.
i agree with you, bro. shows like haruhi and lucky shit phenomenons had such an amount of blind fanboys that they would have gone crazy cheering on those just for the fact of doing it.
>>She is just a manga and anime character, does it really matter if she a virgin or not?
why do you think people reads/watches kannagi, if not for "fantasies" about nagi??
randomAnonymous.
my opinion haruhi and lucky phenomenons happened because innovative opening and ending credit scene. Rarely you see character in some anime dancing like in haruhi ending credit. It's attractive. I'm not big fans of those but i still enjoyed watching and read them.
I'm agree with you and Guardian of Ryu. there's no way to prove it she's virgin or not. What'll they do if they can prove that, right? marry her? that's really freaks mind of extremist otaku. lack of healty social-relationship
Small wonder i heard a collective groan gobbling up bandwidth like a tsunami on IRC last night.
This is a really sad conclusion of the recent horrible fuss. Some people are just hopeless and impossible. The sad thing is also the fact that because of people like these, the reputation of otakus is deteriorating, even though it's just a minority that utters those bullshits, I think.
Reputation of otakus? What reputation? I bet you're the type of person who would refer to yourself as an "otaku" just because you're a fan of Japanese related stuff. Check your facts, dude, the term otaku never was a good thing to begin with.
it not deteriorates. we just start to see the real otakuness. you now can feel why japanese society disliked them in the past.
anime/manga/japanese stuff lover is not an otaku. an otaku is an individum who lives and breaths his obsession. you can't do anything about people like these (extermination won't help. there will succumb others to neet lifestyle and eternal virginity)
Why do I have a feeling that your English tells me that you're...from Japan?
At seeing all this, simply wow~
I haven't watched/read Kannagi, yet, but I feel this.
What I feel the most, is the fact of this actual otaku behavoiur. The base of an otaku is being a fan, and this is not how a fan must behave. I can understand if the mangaka feels depressed or just upset.
I think that this behavoiur is too hardcore.
Japanase otakus are too hradcore for me xD
Anyway, ill or not, I wish the best for the mangaka.
that otaku who rippped the manga up is retarded.
He should have given those books away to the nigerians who need fuel for their fires.
What a douche bag
I hope they learned their lesson. We won't tolerate sluts in our manga.
Ok, to those outrage otakus, stop day dreaming and raged over some fiction characters. They are non-existence afterall. It's not like the story in this fiction anime will affect the real world, damn. Wake up and get back to reality!
Well, how about put it this way: Nagi's ex-boyfriend was Jin as well. That should at least calm down those mindless freaks a lil bit. Her ex-bfriend(Jin) died in the wars century ago and she pregnant and died as well. She felt the pain of death and decided to protect the living with her love so she resided in a sacred tree and help those unfortunates who pray to her. She kept doing this until her vessel(sacred tree) was chopped down. By that time Jin has already reincarnate as a human so they have met again due to fate. Satisfied?
This is why we can't have nice things.
This is why we can't have nice things...
The members of the Otaku subculture in Japan have carefully cultivated the popularity of a specific type of formula writing that caters to the fetish of reliving one's childhood over and over and over again... and all that entails. As a result, many excellent Seinen manga with thought-provoking plots that deviate from these established norms have been sidelined or ignored outright by the vast majority of potential fans despite their small and highly-dedicated cult followings.
Have you seen the way GUNNM and Berserk have been going, lately? Both started out as exceedingly-violent, very well-illustrated and well-written manga. Both have ended up dumbing-down their plots to cater to a wider audience, with the former currently caught up in an interminable fighting tournament and the latter adding cutesy characters like Schierke just to rake in the "bigger crowd". A damn shame, in my book.
Why can't they just let Manga authors tell the story they intended to create from the get-go? Why does everything need to stay within the boundaries of its genre? All these misguided fans are doing is stifling creativity and encouraging the same fetishized crap to be cranked out year after year, and I don't much care for that. I say let the woman ink whatever the heck she wants. It's her series. It doesn't belong to me or you and certainly not to the Otaku.
I agree about the lack of originality - the endless school romance/comedies really do the medium a disservice at times, and certainly stifle a great many original works.
I'm a fan of both the manga you mention, and I agree to an extent - Puck & co. seem necessary in Berserk as otherwise the story can become highly oppressive, but GUNNM is taking things rather far...
The issue seems to be that mass popularity is required to keep the mangaka fed, and to employ their assistants.
I sure hope she gets well soon for any illness, mental or physical. I want to find out whether or not Nagi really is a virgin. >_>
I'm with 2ch on this one; way to fuck up, otaku.
If Kannagi really ends up being cancelled, I'm hoping "fans" will learn their lesson and realize their faggotry ruins shit for everyone.
Good riddance.
stopping indefinitely without consent of the fans. wow. at least postponing the manga should have been the right word. Just because fans push you a little you just explode. Look what the berserk manga did. He said he want to play games. at least he got a moar sensible excuse.
So its just one person? Thank god. Was about to lose my faith in otakus. Thats understandable, there are lots of crazy people out there, otaku or not. Many who are much more crazy.
damn those fcking ohtakuns...
if dun like it juz dun see it...
Curse the virgin-hunting otaku!!!
How could they ruin a great manga just because of their abnormal thinking?
Hope Kannagi will continue someday......
fucking dipshits.
damned otakus.
who the fuck cares about damn virginity..
In the Indian epic that Kannagi was derived from, the heroine was married, but still revered as chaste. *shrug* Otaku need to do their homework before they explode over such a thing.
I agree with the otaku (being one myself).
We tend to love innocent characters, and Nagi has that innocent air to her, of someone that has never been in a relationship so revealing that she's been married before is ''heartbreaking'' to us.
But I highly doubt that the manga has been discontinued because of that, there are always ways to work around it, like revealing that its a misunderstanding or something. Lets just wait and see what happens.
I also would like to add that my mentality is of a Japanese otaku and not a western one.
You like innocent characters? Don't you mean you like little girls you pervert
"Kannagi has ceased publication indefinitely."
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Why? This is a sad day for all otaku-kind. T_T
Stupid fanatics screwing over the rest of us.. There wasn't even any evidence that she wasn't a virgin! There are non-sexual relationships, I hope they realize..
i hope she gets better, but...
if it is because of the fans, well what happened to some writers is that they end the story or they just kill off the main Characters. just to end the trouble of the fans. but i hope that doesn't happen.
It sucks for Kannagi fans but it's not like this is the first time this happened to a manga.
I also got a lot of lol reading through the comments from trolls and the fans responding that let themselves get this worked up.
Hope she gets better, cuz i realllyy gotta know wtf happens next on Kannagi
Darn! I just recently imported all of the manga released so far of Kannagi.. (and it was quite expensive with the poor Aussie exchange rate too)
I hope that the mangaka will get better soon.
1. Real illness is a possibility. I'll bet she has been working even harder than usual with the increased popularity of her work calling for more drawings from her for various magazines, etc., and maybe even consultation on the anime. One hour of sleep a night is not enough for anyone.
2. Maybe she needs more time to do those other publicity things. I wonder if she now has other ways of making money than the manga.
3. People who make offhand comments about Hirano Aya should consider whether they are exhibiting the same symptoms as the crazy virginal otaku.
Noooo! Every Kannagi fan (the sane ones) go get your pitch forks and torches. It's time for some Evil Otaku Hunting!
lol but seriously, I hope all good and well to Eri if it's a sudden illness. If the Evil Otaku's are to blame, I curse you to be blinded till Eri recovers. No longer can you watch your Moe Virgins and play Eroge's. If she just wants to relax from the onslaught from those Pathetic Virgin Obssessing Otaku's, then hope she can clear her mind and calm herself and be ready to resume.
If this is a publicity stunt of sort...meh gotten use to it by now, what celeb or not doesn't pull one. Happens every week in the West.
The level of stupidity of you people is astounding. Virgins and non-virgins? Does it really matter? It's a fucking character in a rather interesting series. It is not real. Get a goddamn life and a real girlfriend for christ sakes.
Seriously though I'm pissed. I used to follow the series before the anime and before people even knew what Kannagi was. If the reason is because of rabid otaku's then I hope every last one of them die through incineration and beheading (preferably at the same time).
It's still a great series and I hope it continues publication soon (if the author is actually sick hope you get well soon regardless if you continue series or not).
No, not at the same time. More like incineration until the brink of death, THEN some other way of torture that is not as fast and definite as decapitation.
'Virgins and non-virgins? Does it really matter? It's a fucking character in a rather interesting series. It is not real. '
It only matters as much as any fictional story matters.
Hamyuts Meseta is a fictional non-virgin.
Her non-virginity matters insofar as it advances the story of "The Book of Bantorra."
Quality writing is more important than virgin/nonvirgin status.
Kannagi, I am sad to say, ran out of good ideas. The story started out okay, but it had been getting weaker and weaker. Let it die and let new stories start.
call me shallow, but i didn't start this one cause i hated her hair, specifically, her bangs. one of my most hated female hair styles.
i don't watch toradora cause i'm tired of tsundre, so i'm just left with magical Index.
That's pretty much the same reason for me - I don't find the main character very attractive at all. So I'm passing. I can tolerate Toradora though, I like the designs for that show.
Just hang in there until the new Haruhi, folks!
I don't think otakus causing an unjust shitstorm over a character that they didn't own is any reason to cease publication of the manga. If it sells, it sells. That's what I think. If the author is sick, then that's pretty just imo; however, if she's stopping just because former rabid fanboys (former because they stopped becoming fans once they started bashing), then I'd say that she's doing herself and her manga a huge disservice.
Otaku causing a shitstorm made a founding member of Gainax resign from the board of directors. (Of course that shitstorm wasn't entirely unjust since said member behaved in a pretty unprofessional way and insulted the fans.) It's Japan, after all.
In any case, I suppose the "indefinite" hiatus will last only as long as the shitstorm abates and most people forget about the whole issue. Meanwhile the mangaka will work something out about the stupid virginity issue. Unless Kannagi merch starts not selling well...
"Kannagei"?
Yeah, I read that too. I hope its a typo and not "Kanna-gay" or something. Or perhaps Kannagei can be used to describe the virgin otaku fans that can't get over the whole boyfriend issue.
Great, now it can be replaced by a manga without non-virgins.
After this whole fiasco, there probably won't be any more non-virgins in manga.
I'd love for Kannagi to be replaced by a manga where there are only non-virgins, though that is not told to you right away.
Just one by one, you find out the girls are not virgins... revealing this only through the most underhanded ways.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!!!!oneoneone
Wish that she gets better soon~
LOL
I like how the more obvious answer got buried in the article: "Of course, there is the possibility of a genuine illness." And why, may I ask, isn't this the more-likely conclusion?
This is typical 2ch attention-whoring, where they believe their actions make the world go round. And here, you again play up the 2ch drama to make more sensationalistic headlines (Might as well have said "Extreme otaku cause manga-ka to feel ill, cancel manga." News at 11!). There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that this turn of events is connected to the latest 2ch stupidity, nor is there any concrete evidence to suggest that the whole "virgin fiasco" is anything more than 2ch's typical pandering to extremes. (Especially given that DVD sales for the anime have thus far proved quite good -- if there were *really* widespread otaku outrage, don't you think it would have a measurable impact on sales?)
People should really take anything sourced on 2ch with a huge grain of salt. It can be *entertaining*, but reality is typically much more mundane. 2ch exists to get noticed ("we're relevant, dammit!"), and this is a perfect example of how they do that. The problem is that your average English speaker doesn't understand that dynamic, and seems to take everything stated on this blog as objective fact-based reporting. It's not.
"Speculation", "blamed", "some say" - nowhere have I done anything but present the developing response to the event, along with the event itself. I did not anywhere present the 2ch froth as anything but, in this article or previous ones.
I am reporting the objective facts of what is going on on 2ch. This is done to inform and entertain. The average English speaker understands this completely.
I understand what your saying artefact. This is definitely ammusing! No matter how you try to explain, this whole thing seems like a HUGE troll, even with hard evidence. I do like the "variety" of opinions though! RABBLE ON!
"I am reporting the objective facts of what is going on on 2ch. This is done to inform and entertain. The average English speaker understands this completely."
Well, then let me clarify. I have noticed considerable confusion among the English-speaking audience that I've encountered about the relation between 2ch and the overall otaku market. When 2ch gets up in a tizzy about something and starts burning books or whatever, I constantly encounter people who mistakenly believe that this is some sort of *massive market-wide backlash* or something, when in reality it is just the action of a few people trying to get attention and playing up the latest thing to rage about on 2ch. That's 2ch culture. It's exactly the difference between "forum drama" and "real life". People were actually wondering how the "massive otaku backlash to Nagi's virginity impacted DVD sales", and quoting you as the source that the wide-spread backlash was real. I mean, really?
I have no qualms with your claims that you are providing objective reporting on the latest goings-on on 2ch. What I feel bears reminding that opinions expressed on 2ch aren't representative of the "real world". It, like any other forum, has a personality and culture all its own. I know that this is obvious to you and me, but I have noticed that many people can't seem to tell the difference. 2ch would love to believe that their actions are what caused this latest development, but odds are that it's one of any number of more likely explanations.
You sir, are horribly misguided.
If you were really aware of facts, you'd know that DVD sales are driven PRIMARILY by hard-core fans. 2CH's population essentially IS the hardcore fanbase.
It may only be 100 or so posters that you see in a thread, but bare in mind many of those VIPers' opinions and thoughts are generally very pursuasive, remember that as the most vocal part of the fanbase, their opinion is much more easily observed by the publishers and producers
As was illustrated in the States by the anonymous vs scientology hooha, the "virgin-nerds" and 'moronic otakus' are larger in influence and numbers than you think. Even more so in J-land and 2ch.
"We are anonymous, we do not forgive, we do not forget"
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
kanagiiiiiiiiiiiii
fu... yuo otaku virgin hunter
manga agoinT_T
Sorry lost control. Now would be a good time for the author of Haruhi to reveal that she had sex with every single one of her ex-boyfriends(she had loads of 'em right)
It was probably a bit too vanilla for her though though so she remade the world after so it didn't happen, does it still count?
This is one big troll, and a very good one at that.
Kill them all, I say.
Nagi-samaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
btw, sad news T__T
What?! no! thats crazy... Its a shame that the (crazy) otaku got to her. But she will see the light and carry on and ignore those freaks of nature.
Serves that slut right.
I lol'd.
But seriously, I hope this has nothing to do with the otaku nerdrage... because that was just stupid as hell.
As well as everyone else for supporting this behavior.
What the hell is your problem, retard?
lol, Major League Trolling.
Has anybody considered it might of been a publicity stunt for the magazine?
Wow... That just sucks. There are to many ways to read into this.
I wish her the best.
God damn it.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Blood lust for foul otaku!
fck those otakus its not lik nagi is theirs *to 1 person and the manga was nice...hope it wld continue
I'm pissed, I'm pointing at you 2ch you damn freaks
¬¬
You know what sucks more than this. If it's a con, or that she is not sick but forced to quit. This would mean a "new" edgy plot device like this one is now forbidden.
Otaku don't like new and edgy, they like comfortable and familiar.
i have to agree. but reality isnt so fucking comfortable and familiar.
This raises the possibility of pulling the anime from broadcast, doesn't it?
No, there's no chance of that happening to the TV series.
If Takenashi is ill, then I of course will join in on wishing her well.