Mirror’s Edge Moefication

Wow...quite a bit of...interesting comments, disturbing comments, and general ignorance all abounds here huh?

First of all, I'm not sure if any of you actually bothered playing the game, but IT'S IN FIRST PERSON. You NEVER see her face during the entire game (cutscenes excluded). There are no mirrors (ironic actually), no pools of water to look into, and not a single reflective window close enough to actually look at. Why the hell should it matter what she looks like since the game is more about YOUR experience. Really, you guys need to play a game before making your judgments. Besides, it's an amazing game worthy of every bit of praise it gets.

Second, she's EURASIAN. Not 100% Asian. I realize that's not an instant justification of all her features, but it certainly helps justify some of her so-called "genetic facial anomalies".

I'm not sure what's up with some of you guys, but as a 100% Asian male born and raised in a traditional family, I still find the original Faith to be much hotter. Her face is that of someone whose strong, independent, and capable of taking care of herself (which she does A LOT in the game in the form of beating the crap out of policemen), exactly the things I want in a woman. I realize some of you guys suffer from the weaboo complex of desiring petite, weak, subservient women, but your preference is in the minority. The "moe" version is honestly just creepy. I mean really, people are welcome to fantasize, but to actually claim that the game would've been BETTER with this bullshit "moe" version just lack the insight to the game's actual theme and tone. Sorry guys, but when you're mother's been killed, family fallen apart, and your entire life destroyed and rebuilt into George Orwell's "1984", you're not going to be a happy-go-lucky loli chick.

Ah well, I guess this entire argument is really just because Faith is ultimately the one thing Japanese patriarchal society fears most: An athletic asian woman whose strong and independent on both the outside and the inside and isn't afraid to kick ass. Oh, and has short hair. ;)

Rather a unique and strong character design than the same kind of moe blobbery that you see in every game nowadays. That's all I have to say.

Also, there's nothing wrong or unrealistic about her original look at all. She's not supposed to be an archetype-Asian average display of facial features; she's supposed to be a person. And people look different. I say kudos to the designer who actually realized that, as opposed to so many others.

the classical lucy-liu syndom.

tha lucy liu look = asian lady

gee that illust sure is ugly.
how can anyone in the world like it?
i'd hit the improved, moe version.

i wonder if the game is any good...
i didn't buy it, cuz she's so ugly...

I wonder when the above comments are talking about the moe version, are they talking the 2nd pic or the last comparison between the original and the fugly?
i'll blame the post for making a very biased question. The last "moe" one=ugly and way overdone. The first one which was sent to the producer actually looks a lot better than the original. You simply cannot justify ugly with it being "realistic". The 2nd pic still retain the badass attitude without the in-your-face deliberate input of evilness.
and that's one ugly haircut and shading the original version got.

WHY do people like the Moe version anyway? Its kinda creepy if you ask me.

Oh, and this site ROKS.
Bookmarking it....

I will have to be frank; it is completely unreasonable to project "moe" values on this game, especially since it is a western game.

"A lolita face with a large chest"
This is what is exceedingly popular in anime right now, and it seems to me that the people supporting the "moe" version of Faith are not considering the tone of the game she is in.

Of course, they are welcome to fantasize, and there is nothing wrong with imagining a "what-if" moe version, but for anyone to say "no, she should have been like this" is insulting the efforts of the design team, whether they mean to or not.

Long argument on what is, essentially, the racial lineage og the main character in a first-person game that isn't even good.

ah the second image is adorable @ _@

The art is great, but lacks moe. Glad they made it that way.

Meh. The game fits the main character having a face like a razor. The up-moe-ficated version looks rather pudgy instead.

^ Artefact, thats kind of an ignorant way of thinking. I can understand not wanting real people in manga but, come on dude, games and film!? If real people dont "belong" in games or films, why are the most popular games like GTA IV, CoD 4, CoD WaW and the most memorable movies such as The Godfather REAKS of realism? People DO want realism, even moreso nowadays. Of course many people will want escape from realism, like myself, but many other people love realistic portrayals in media as well.

Ordinary mediocrities? Thats what makes stories so much better. The concept of the average Joe or an anti-hero is increasingly popular. The idea that an average person with flaws can change the world is quite intoxicating. People can relate to these types of characters more than the typical "perfect protagonist" you seem to prefer. This theme is also very recurrent in anime and manga as well as video games and movies.

And I prefer the original Faith more than that bullshit Moe Faith.

both are somewhat realistic. i.e. there are people irl who look like either Faith. Both are stereotypes. My personal preference is for moe Faith, though the size of the eyes make me lol as always. The producer is probably evil Faith.

But... how attractive or how busty she is, isnt that unrelated to "We wanted her to look athletic and fit and strong [enough] that she could do the things that she’s doing." For example, Dante from Devil May Cry has an Adonis figure. But we dont think hes badass because of that, right?

This is unbelievable. People, the woman in the picture at the top is not ugly. She's wearing some pretty extreme eye makeup, which makes her eyes look "slanty", but she's still pretty. Or rather, she's interesting-looking, which ought to be good enough for a character you hardly ever see in the game. Plus, who said she was pure Japanese or Chinese and had to look exactly like someone's idea of those races? She looks like she could be a mix. Or from Eastern Russia. Or (heaven forbid) a somewhat atypical East Asian. Shockingly enough, not everyone in a given country looks like a stereotypical version of that country's standards of beauty. And as to the other argument, even if she did look like a "dragon lady" (which she doesn't), no other aspect of her characterization conforms to that. She doesn't mix up her l's and r's or wear a cheongsam. Unlike, umm, 99% of Chinese characters in manga. But that's okay because they're moe, right? Yeah, why don't we just make Faith a dojikko and give her a gun the size of a building and have her wear a fluffy skirt and increase her breasts 120% in size and flash her panties every time she jumps.

Ugly. Jesus Christ. Even if she was, what the hell would it matter? She's a parkour-ing courier in a video game world, and you never actually have to look at her face. Why does she have to fit a 2-channer's already skewed vision of what's cute? Not that anime-style girls aren't wonderful, because they are, but if everyone looked like that, including people in completely separate forms of media than anime and eroge, it would suck. Okay? I'm sure you don't want to wake up in the morning and have Solid Snake or whatever protagonist of your FPS's turned into a bishounen, so let's just all be big kids and let the occasional female video game character be skinny and non-sexualized and kind of like a real person.

Actually, come to think of it, the original version looks eerily like the Asian-American actress Bai Ling. Who I'm not particularly fond of, but I'm hardly going to accuse her of not looking like a member of her own ethnicity because she doesn't fit my "standards".

isnt it just easy to say that Faith is ugly, i mean if u dont want ugly dont buy it, but seriously u dont buy the game if the characters are ugly unless that is all u can appreciate then why dont u just get a magazine?

my fanart on Faith - http://masquevale.deviantart.com/art/Faith-Mirror-s-Edge-105536301

As for chara design, I like moe! But for Mirror's Edge its all about gameplay for me. I still like moe.

As a FPS game it isn't halo,its pretty linear like typical japanese action games. Running can actually be very fun indeed.

Can't wait for the sequel.

PS: and hey Silicon Knights did really good job remaking Metal Gear Solid for the gamecube. Hope DICE outsource PSP and DS version to some japanese developer. XD

Faith would just not look right with big eyes and a round hair cut, she looks nice as she is. Besides I think having big breasts would get in the way when doing parkour.

Before anyone responds calling me racist or something I myself am half Japanese so, whatev.
Weeaboos, shut the f*** up. This isn't one of your fantasy animes, go watch some hentai for your moe-girl needs. Faith rocks. She's bad-ass, not some tween-aged whore with unrealistic tits. And who cares if she looks Chinese!? Her ethnicity was never specified so stop automatically assuming Asian = Japanese. It's disgusting. You people need to haul your sorry asses back to reality pronto. This isn't a Japanese game, so why do you expect Faith to be a representation of moe??

The really funny thing about all this is that I'm 100% Chinese and live in the US. The original Faith design looks exactly like my sister LOL.

I showed the design to her ex-boyfried (him and I both work as senior artists in the games industry) and he said, "Holy shit! She looks just like your sister!"

So to all you guys who think Chinese girls don't look like that, I call Bullshit.

eh i am not going to buy this game since she looks ugly as shit.

I tend to judge the book by its cover, so far I've been right.

Wow, Chinese and Japanese look as different as Blacks and Whites? You're really stretching it SC...

In regards to the character design, as a Asian, it's like someone walking up to me and pulling up the corners of their eyes. It's fucking insulting. Just because whatever douchebag to first to bring an Asian woman to the West had some sort of slant-eyes fetish, it doesn't mean it's the norm. It would be no different than if an Asian publisher marketed a game here with the main character (and cover art) being a black guy with a fro, huge lips, and holding a watermelon, or a fat white guy in jeans and a tucked in American flag shirt. Though according to some of you, that's perfectly fine, because that's their vision.

As for gameplay, it's pretty imaginative, but lost my interest after a few hours. Definitely a rental.

I dont get what all the fuss is about. I think she looks hawt.

This is why we shouldn't have stopped after only nuking two cities. Back to work...

Wow -- all these comments on Faith's appearance.

I think the _real_ reason the game is on discount is because its gameplay sucks.

You have to figure out the _game creator's_ method of overcoming obstacles; you can't just do what reasonably and logically should work.

What IS attractive?

Nobody can tell for sure, it depends on ones sensibility and it's true that before releasing a game, one should analyse the market.

But you know what? I understand Tom Farrer and I wish he had the guts and the power to say: "You dislike our character design? So, that's too bad because the design is part of the game. We're not releasing the game, now FU."

Personnaly, I hate the moe version. Moe is moe, mixing these two genres together is stupidity. This game isn't about boobs. (I also hate big boobs)
M.

Ugh. The moe faith looks like Rinoa. Seriously, look at her, they stripped out all of Faith's personality and individuality and turned her into a bland idol. I find it sad that the people who frequent 2ch cannot accept anyone that is not beautiful, not "moe." I bet they aren't paragons of the male form.

moe looks cuter plus bigger boobs:3

it's kinda bad that people hate on the second picture, saying that it's fake, because there are actual people that kinda look like that....

moefied picture reminds me of a street fighter drawing or that one character from tekken that chases kazuya's son around, that guy who turns into a devil angel

I cannot agree that she is "ugly". I find her very, very attractive. Reality is damn sexy.

Seriously? I mean.. seriously?
She needed bigger boobs? really?

This is some crap made up by people who live in a fantasy world where all humans should look like Asians from Japanese movies or even worst.. like anime.

Welcome to the REAL world. where people have square jaw lines, creepy looking eyes, and come from all kinds of cultural backgrounds. What's her race? Who knows.. who cares.. why is it so important?

She looks way better in the original.
the last picture is just terrible... the "moe"d version looks like something out of a hentai game.

go out and look at real people sometimes. geeez'

I don't think original Faith is ugly. Not really beautiful either.
But the "moeficated" character, the rage and BAWWWs of the 2channers and almost every comment in this post are just a giant facepalm.
Hopefully none of you will design characters for videogames ever.

now... why all that commotion anyway?
you hardly see faith herself in the actual game, so it really doesn't matter a lot how she's supposed to look. of course, the inner eye picture of "yourself" is important, but that would be easily mitigated by just having a slightly different cover art for the japanese market. or, let the gamers do it themselves (as seen by the 2ch pics) and let them imagine faith however they prefer her.

in any case, call me weird or what, i like the original version a thousand times more than the moe one. :)

I totally liked the original version of Faith... /shrug

bleh to moe

i like her looking strong, bold faced and like a woman.

which japan seems to be afraid of.

i think the original Faith is better.
remember how many fondly-remembered female protagonists aren't exactly "attractive" or "moe".
Chell (i think i spell her name wrong...), from Portal.
or Samus from Metroid who was in vital suit all the time.

or maybe, having an ugly female protagonist make gamers (mostly male, they're) connect easily with her, sympathizing with her, contemplating her philosophies, etc.
it's a "bro factor".

All fugly and that is all I have to say. Yeeck

as a korean male, i find the original ugly ugly ugly.
to me, and i agree most asian guys i know, the original seems like typical "exotic" asian girls westerners r into, but asian guys avoid like the plague.
the moe'fied version at the end is ridiculus as it looks like she's 12, but pic #2's face isn't too bad. the boobs, meh, i don't really care either way.

2ch is so hardcore they don't realize how ridiculous she looks in the last image. Faith looks so unnatural that I can't take her seriously, which they intended her to be taken serious so this alteration defeats that purpose.

There is improvement in the second image from the top but she loses her strong features, never mind the breasts but I find that one acceptable. I love breasts just as the next man but Faith is not Lara Croft.

Do I find the original Faith attractive? Nah. But I don't think she is ugly either. Moe version is inferior to the original.

ALL HAIL MOEEEEEE!!!!!!!

If the main character was a male with Asian features, no one would be bitching at his appearance. This is just 2ch's way of saying that women need to look a certain way to be considered beautiful, and it involves large breasts, innocent face, and rounded cheeks. I'm sorry, but the game is about jumping across rooftops and other structures where one mistake makes you fall to your death, and fighting enemies with automatic weapons. I would feel retarded if I was playing the game and that porcelain doll 2ch made was the main character.

I'm disgusted, by normal human standards she's a total depiction of gorgeous!
Ughhh.
"12 year old with a boob job" is right in the edited version, my God, what pigs to call the original ugly.
And nobody can say I'm being sexist by blaming the men here, as it's known 2ch is mainly male.
This is awful.

comparing only the first two images i must say i prefer the moe version...

i understand what the author of the character says, but he's missing one point in his statement...

we play games to entertain ourselves, that said, games can try mimicking reality but the end result would probably be boring and sad and definately not that entertaining, at least depending on the genre and how far they stick to reality... just because they want to keep the game realistic doesn't mean she needs to be ugly, specially considering the environment setting, where everything looks clean and sorta high-tech, or in others words, beautiful... if he wanted to keep things realistic then the setting should have been completely different... yet it isn't...

i remember when i first saw the character and how disappointing it was, it just didn't fit with the rest... i still can't feel any kind of attachment to the character

Faith is considered unattractive? Obviously my tastes differ somewhat from the norm.

moe faith ftw

I like the fact that Faith isn't that attractive. Not all women are hot, and it's the character's personality people should be focusing on more.

The "moe" version is ridiculous- no one could take that character design seriously.

THIS GAME IS FROM SWEDEN :D <3<3 owned
btw I like the real life picture :D

What the hell... they both are caricatures.

The original does look more realistic... not necessarily ugly, but definitely not approachable. I mean, with that amount of eyeshadow on such unnatural eyes, wtf.

I prefer the original.

I actually like the moe version directly below the original at the top, the other renditions are just ridiculous. I couldn't help but lol at the increased cup size in the modded ones though, you'd figure in something like freestyle running, having huge tits would be a bit detrimental. Perhaps she should just wear glasses, cat ears, and be really clumsy to complete the image, who cares if it doesn't fit the game at all.

What I would like to know is....

Who's the cute actress; 5th pic from the bottom? ^^