Comments on: Government Bans Tanaka Airsoft Guns as Real Firearms

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:02:14 +0000

These things are gonna fetch a pretty high price at the auction outside of Japan. Im guessing a couplle grand each?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:06:32 +0000

Exactly right. That is why I am totally against banning ANYONE from having weapons unless they are currently in psychological care and deemed a danger OR they have a violent criminal record with a weapon included in one of their crimes.

The only thing that laws like this do is keep people from protecting themselves when someone comes after them with intent to kill them.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:02:42 +0000

Put a rounded rock in the place of the potato (much harder) and you can have a weapon that can do serious damage. Hell, just put metal ball bearings in the place of the potato, and it can become a lethal weapon.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:00:33 +0000

Then let's ban crossbows and regular composite bows because they have the ability to penetrate skin and the human body!

The fact is that these anti-gun laws in Japan are NOT about protecting the populace... they are about Japan having a 'elite class' who don't like the thought of the Japanese people having weapons because if they piss them off? Head on pike time!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:04:14 +0000

to be honest you can use anything and eerything as a weapon nowdays, you just need to have a creative mind to figure it out. like a piece of paper could be deadly, a paper clip, a pillow, the mouse pad, some lube even lol. now im a professional airsoft player in the USA and i play with guns that shoot 400-750+fps (feet per second)with .20g-.30g and the most they do is just leave nice bruises and some times on a rare occasion if you are retarded and shoot close range, pierce skin. airsoft is not lethal in any way hence the name airsoft or "soft air" guns. and since im mentaly disabled i have plenty of time to just sit around and build custom guns and looks at pronz all day lol. and last i checked TANAKA has some really bad guns that sucked and only shoot if your lucky maybe up too 400fps.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:17:34 +0000

How about a gunblade? Oh hells yeah!

By: DragGon7601

DragGon7601 — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:42:48 +0000

The people will use chopsticks to fight, Masataka used a pair of them early in Tenjou Tenge so it can be done... Then they will have to start putting restrictions on hands.

By: OPERATOR

OPERATOR — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:17:28 +0000

A .2 gram projectile (even of metal construction) driven down an unrifled barrel propelled by what is most likely ground up match heads. .2 grams is approximately 3 grains, the weight measurement normally associated with bullets. A .22 long rifle caliber bullet is normally 40 grains, and is recognized as one of the weakest modern manufactured calibers that is considered lethal to humans. Airguns that use compressed air to fire ~20 grain lead pellets/balls can be lethal in extraordinary circumstances concerning entry into the skull, but are otherwise deemed as being capable of causing only minor injury, and anyone at least 18 can buy one of those in the USA.

To give scope to how ridiculous this classification of airsoft guns as firearms is, .2 grams is the normal weight for PLASTIC 5mm bb's fired out of the cheapest airsoft guns. Considering that some compressed air airsoft guns fire these projectiles at even GREATER velocities than burning match (the kind you use to light cigarettes) powder can obtain, this classification is downright RECOCKULOUS.

I'm sure the Japanese government would be absolutely horrified if they found out what uneducated Filipinos, hobbyist Americans, and disabled Pakistanis can fabricate using the simplest of hand tools, as well as basic machinery found in many car maintenance shops and machine workshops (it's actually 100% legal in the USA, following certain restrictions against full-auto and size minimums).

http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2004/01/20/feat/danao.s.gunmakers.seek.government.aid.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGVianQJsmQ

By: jaz

jaz — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:14:38 +0000

feeling lucky... punk?

By: tingle

tingle — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:41:39 +0000

first they ban guns, stabbings go up, then they ban knives, forkings go up, then they ban forks and you know what? Now the WHOLE COUNTRY eats with chopsticks.

By: zeeohsix

zeeohsix — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:38:23 +0000

i think it has more to do with the action of the CASYOPEA system.
of all airsoft guns this would be the closest to easiest to make real since it has a hammer hitting a removable cartridge in a cylinder.
other guns you could make real, but time and effort wise this revolver is the easiest.
gas guns use a hammer but hits the gas valve on the magazine.
i think tanaka knew that they were bordering on too close to operational.
i don't think it will affect other guns, just this system, which i doubt would be a big deal. i doubt these were hot sellers and more for collectors.
maybe da or sa cowboy action shooters but i've never seen airsoft like that

By: ajnac

ajnac — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:02:38 +0000

nice guns. I want that. :D

By: Narcotic-Nightmares

Narcotic-Nightmares — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:09:25 +0000

those guns look fucking awesome O.O

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 18 May 2009 09:14:18 +0000

Oh fuck.

NOT TANAKA

By: Geerie

Geerie — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:01:09 +0000

its calasified by the force. in the us i believe its something like 1.15 - 1.10 joules i heard.

By: ZippyDSMlee

ZippyDSMlee — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:01:21 +0000

Ah PC logic at work it looks real it might can take an eye out on a good day so lets ban it....uhg....

Guns are not the problem, societies incompetence in handling their own is...

I have had BB guns that get 300-1200FPS(well fi I ever get that gamo BB gun that dose 1200FPS lulz) they will only kill you if you are unlucky. Normally they just bruise and price the skin some at 5+ feet. Ypu would have to sue it as a knif to do real damage, I know lets bad knifes,bats, poles,pipes,the internet, cars anything people can use to hurt themselves with...or "harm" authority with....... (mind you JP is not the first or last country to try it, the US will try and ban it all in time with the march to "protect" the public from everything modern society is going to get bland quick...)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 03:58:46 +0000

"0.2 gram ball"

Which is basically nothing compared to the 500 S&W Magnum cartridge, where the bullets range between 17 and 45 grams depending on the round, the real S&W M500 fires. Heck even a lowly .22 LR bullet ranges between 1.9 to 3.9 grams, and with those you have to be either very precise or lucky to inflict harm on someone.

Sounds like a slow year for the Japanese legal system for them to be making a big deal out of something that has next to no practical application as an actual firearm. The Tanaka version has next to no penetration or stopping power, and definitely not concealable. Even the real version is not practical, long barrel and way too powerful cartridge, and has limited use. You either use it for hunting or for open carry, self-defense when in bear country.

By: Artefact

Artefact — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:52:10 +0000

One thing I wonder about is what sort of sword cosplayers use... Clearly they can carry it about and wave it around in public:

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/10/16/strike-witches-cosplay/

By: sankyuu

sankyuu — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:12:50 +0000

You have to register swords with their version of ATF, and keep the license with the sword at all times. Also, because the swords are cultural artifacts, only antiques and swords made by registered traditional smiths can be licensed.
I think fake swords like iaito (zinc training blades) don't need to be registered, although you have to keep them in their bag in public.

By: julius

julius — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:17:39 +0000

Yeah, pipe guns, or potato guns (or even spud guns) is what we like to call them where I'm from, are self built pressure tubes used to launch a projectile (typical a potato).

A good vacuum sealed/powered one can reach powers up to 6 joules. Air soft guns in the states are limited to not more than 1 joule. This power difference is demonstrated by the penetration power. Using a small potato, a potato gun can blow through a 1cm thick sheet of aluminum. An air soft gun cannot.

Other than the power difference, a potato gun can also be built from stuff around the home, where as air soft guns general require specific fit parts such as 6mm polished tubes and gaskets.

here is a demo video of a potato gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpAJOPzKK-M

By: Mem

Mem — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:28:39 +0000

Even a dull sword ? Like, for decorative purposes.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:23:25 +0000

It might have to do with the size and velocity of the BB. From what I know, some of Tanaka's airsoft guns use 8mm and not the standard 6mm BB, and BB's break the skin when they reach speeds of 300-450 fps, some enthusiasts blatantly modify the guns to fire 500-700 fps to get additional range, which could prove lethal in short distances. And add to that metal and metal coated BB's that are available on the market.

By: ornehx

ornehx — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:47:46 +0000

yes airsoft fires plastic BBs
there are basically 3 type, gas propelled, spring action and electrical.
i guess how they classify it between dangerous and non dangerous is by the force applied by the BBs fired upon the target..

By: Artefact

Artefact — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:45:45 +0000

Yes, swords are banned unless you have a really expensive one.