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	<title>Comments on: Studios Sue Singapore Anime Downloaders</title>
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		<title>By: 5p.</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-13607</link>
		<dc:creator>5p.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scuttlebutt is that the Japanese companies are concerned about fansub torrents because Japanese otaku are downloading them - apparently fansubs download faster than the raws, because of the sheer mass of international downloaders all beavering away on the same torrent. 

I don&#039;t think they really care about how the overseas markets perform, as long as there are people willing to cough up money for licenses. However, when they think that the  Japanese market (viz. cable subscriptions, etc) is being affected, that&#039;s another story. 

Have seen a couple of MADs (no indication that they were overseas productions) on Nico made using fansubs, so there may be something to this theory. Which might mean that the situation is even more fscked-up than one would otherwise assume.

Naturally, tj han&#039;s assessment is almost certainly correct as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scuttlebutt is that the Japanese companies are concerned about fansub torrents because Japanese otaku are downloading them - apparently fansubs download faster than the raws, because of the sheer mass of international downloaders all beavering away on the same torrent. </p>
<p>I don't think they really care about how the overseas markets perform, as long as there are people willing to cough up money for licenses. However, when they think that the  Japanese market (viz. cable subscriptions, etc) is being affected, that's another story. </p>
<p>Have seen a couple of MADs (no indication that they were overseas productions) on Nico made using fansubs, so there may be something to this theory. Which might mean that the situation is even more fscked-up than one would otherwise assume.</p>
<p>Naturally, tj han's assessment is almost certainly correct as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Adan</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-13395</link>
		<dc:creator>Adan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t agree, you are thinking about yourself. Think more about the product&#039;s maker. They make stuff, they deserved to get money.

What would you do if someone stole your product (software / program) that you make in 6 months or more. The one who stole didn&#039;t try to sale it, he only use for himself non-profit. But his friends come and copy it, also for self use only, non-profit, and again another friend, and again and again. 

In the end, you don&#039;t recieved money form what you had make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn't agree, you are thinking about yourself. Think more about the product's maker. They make stuff, they deserved to get money.</p>
<p>What would you do if someone stole your product (software / program) that you make in 6 months or more. The one who stole didn't try to sale it, he only use for himself non-profit. But his friends come and copy it, also for self use only, non-profit, and again another friend, and again and again. </p>
<p>In the end, you don't recieved money form what you had make.</p>
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		<title>By: Adan</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-13393</link>
		<dc:creator>Adan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t you wanna fight back, well not sueing them, but forcing them to release more higher quality products?

It would be ashame that Singapore invite May&#039;n but the anime released in Singapore still in VCD format &gt;.&lt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn't you wanna fight back, well not sueing them, but forcing them to release more higher quality products?</p>
<p>It would be ashame that Singapore invite May'n but the anime released in Singapore still in VCD format &gt;.&lt;</p>
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		<title>By: McRemitz</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-13346</link>
		<dc:creator>McRemitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.
Always check official prices on the net plus add in shipping then do the math. if it&#039;s over then you were screwed. Just a little reminder. ^ ^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.<br />
Always check official prices on the net plus add in shipping then do the math. if it's over then you were screwed. Just a little reminder. ^ ^</p>
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		<title>By: McRemitz</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-13344</link>
		<dc:creator>McRemitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the heck? Torrents are illegal? LOL. Apparently Torrents are saviors to those people who can&#039;t reach the goods because of A: The goods are not available in that area  B: Extreme overcharge due to retailers trying to make an extra buck. or what ever it may be. Sure sue/screw piracy but think of those who use it personally and in a non-profit manner. XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the heck? Torrents are illegal? LOL. Apparently Torrents are saviors to those people who can't reach the goods because of A: The goods are not available in that area  B: Extreme overcharge due to retailers trying to make an extra buck. or what ever it may be. Sure sue/screw piracy but think of those who use it personally and in a non-profit manner. XD</p>
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		<title>By: linkinstreet</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12894</link>
		<dc:creator>linkinstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it&#039;s not surprising really considering how &quot;free&quot; Singapore is. And IIRC, Japanese uploaders also have the same problem with the authority there that tracks filed shared on Winny. The only reason that we get RAWS are because those were recorded by dedicated RAW distros that host it on their own Server, which by law the authorities cannot force the ISP to show what&#039;s inside. 
If the Singaporeans is at least have some intelligence, they could ditch P2P for animus and use an old, unloved but reliable and untouched by Odex method, DCC transfer via mIrc. Just as fast, and have dedicated server as well. This cannot be tracked back by the user as the ISP has no obligation to show the data that transfers via it, unlike P2P data</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it's not surprising really considering how "free" Singapore is. And IIRC, Japanese uploaders also have the same problem with the authority there that tracks filed shared on Winny. The only reason that we get RAWS are because those were recorded by dedicated RAW distros that host it on their own Server, which by law the authorities cannot force the ISP to show what's inside.<br />
If the Singaporeans is at least have some intelligence, they could ditch P2P for animus and use an old, unloved but reliable and untouched by Odex method, DCC transfer via mIrc. Just as fast, and have dedicated server as well. This cannot be tracked back by the user as the ISP has no obligation to show the data that transfers via it, unlike P2P data</p>
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		<title>By: Gosun</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12877</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ruled that Odex can only act independantly on the only title which they have exclusive rights; Gundam Seed.

Yet, they are pulling out people&#039;s IP addresses which are found to be getting other titles which are not even on their &quot;licensed&quot; title list.

Other companies will send a C&amp;D order to targets to stop whatever they are doing illegally before they take apprioriate action. 

Yet Odex, which hardly anyone in Singapore has even heard of it, fires off love letters to either cave in to legal settlements or court settlements, knowningly that people will not dare risk having to pay more in lengthly court sessions.

Once again, Odex is NOT here to care for their consumers, but to rip them off with pathetic choice of preferred media format ( VCDs ), limited choice of DVD titles ( And poorly done/ Censored may i add ), and even fooled a whole nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's ruled that Odex can only act independantly on the only title which they have exclusive rights; Gundam Seed.</p>
<p>Yet, they are pulling out people's IP addresses which are found to be getting other titles which are not even on their "licensed" title list.</p>
<p>Other companies will send a C&amp;D order to targets to stop whatever they are doing illegally before they take apprioriate action. </p>
<p>Yet Odex, which hardly anyone in Singapore has even heard of it, fires off love letters to either cave in to legal settlements or court settlements, knowningly that people will not dare risk having to pay more in lengthly court sessions.</p>
<p>Once again, Odex is NOT here to care for their consumers, but to rip them off with pathetic choice of preferred media format ( VCDs ), limited choice of DVD titles ( And poorly done/ Censored may i add ), and even fooled a whole nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12852</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you torrent, they just look at the peer list and find you dling/uploading red-handed. (Yes thats what they did)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you torrent, they just look at the peer list and find you dling/uploading red-handed. (Yes thats what they did)</p>
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		<title>By: XSportSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12809</link>
		<dc:creator>XSportSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haruhi-chan is so kawaii.... and I also love the fact that the desk is pissed off. :P

About the company, that&#039;s really bad for Singapore-ans(?).
I really hope other countries don&#039;t follow suit, and that something can be done against Odex.

I know that they legally can do that, but that&#039;s like the worst thing a licenser can ever do.

Anime would have never become popular throughout the world if it wasn&#039;t for people being able to download anime, and using torrents.

I&#039;m willing to bet most of the profit Odex makes and even the creation of the company has a lot to owe to that.

So, they come into play, and wants to screw up people who actually created them? The very people who are responsible for their profit?

If something like that happened in Brazil, I myself (if not someone else) would get people together to screw up such company by any means necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haruhi-chan is so kawaii.... and I also love the fact that the desk is pissed off. :P</p>
<p>About the company, that's really bad for Singapore-ans(?).<br />
I really hope other countries don't follow suit, and that something can be done against Odex.</p>
<p>I know that they legally can do that, but that's like the worst thing a licenser can ever do.</p>
<p>Anime would have never become popular throughout the world if it wasn't for people being able to download anime, and using torrents.</p>
<p>I'm willing to bet most of the profit Odex makes and even the creation of the company has a lot to owe to that.</p>
<p>So, they come into play, and wants to screw up people who actually created them? The very people who are responsible for their profit?</p>
<p>If something like that happened in Brazil, I myself (if not someone else) would get people together to screw up such company by any means necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: tj han</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12786</link>
		<dc:creator>tj han</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, Artefact, let me give an analogy.

You have a really large, juicy roast chicken.

You also have nice but less filling chicken nuggets.

You do not have hands.

Which will you eat? The seemingly ew little pieces of processed chicken or the all-natural goodness of a whole chicken?

The nuggets of course because it is EASIER.

Singapore has such a meek population and the strongly-corporation-skewed legal culture, where the regular joe fears the courts and would never think of hiring a lawyer. It&#039;s not like in the US k where everyone&#039;s sue-crazy.

It&#039;s tragic but there are benefits to it as well, like no abuse of the legal system (well, ironically, if you consider this abuse, but it really isnt).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, Artefact, let me give an analogy.</p>
<p>You have a really large, juicy roast chicken.</p>
<p>You also have nice but less filling chicken nuggets.</p>
<p>You do not have hands.</p>
<p>Which will you eat? The seemingly ew little pieces of processed chicken or the all-natural goodness of a whole chicken?</p>
<p>The nuggets of course because it is EASIER.</p>
<p>Singapore has such a meek population and the strongly-corporation-skewed legal culture, where the regular joe fears the courts and would never think of hiring a lawyer. It's not like in the US k where everyone's sue-crazy.</p>
<p>It's tragic but there are benefits to it as well, like no abuse of the legal system (well, ironically, if you consider this abuse, but it really isnt).</p>
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		<title>By: kristalyamaki</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12778</link>
		<dc:creator>kristalyamaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P2P programs like Bittorrent will automatically upload the files as they download the file. That&#039;s why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P2P programs like Bittorrent will automatically upload the files as they download the file. That's why.</p>
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		<title>By: Xak</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12773</link>
		<dc:creator>Xak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odex only has a sub-license to subtitle, dub and redistribute the animes. They do not own the series in any way, which was why the court ruled so with regards to Pacific Internet.

Not to mention that it would be easier for the Japanese companies to start here, with the groundwork already laid out by Odex. In contrast, America has had a bad track record in terms of prosecuting illegal downloaders (bad from the viewpoint of the company). Thus, it is not surprising that Singapore is where they turn to rather than America.

And also, Singapore has had rather good events happening in terms of the anime scene recently. I mean, the Eva movie just aired on TV last Sunday. Subbed, not dubbed. We&#039;re having same-week telecasts for a few series, such as Toradora, Casshern Sins and Skip Beat. Subbed, not dubbed. We&#039;re about to host Anime Festival Asia, which is bringing in fans from the region and from Japan too, with May&#039;n and Mizuki Ichirou performing.

We might not be as big as the American market, but we sure are a major market, especially if you include the countries in the region. We&#039;re being recognised, and we&#039;re being noticed. I guess we get some good and we get some bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odex only has a sub-license to subtitle, dub and redistribute the animes. They do not own the series in any way, which was why the court ruled so with regards to Pacific Internet.</p>
<p>Not to mention that it would be easier for the Japanese companies to start here, with the groundwork already laid out by Odex. In contrast, America has had a bad track record in terms of prosecuting illegal downloaders (bad from the viewpoint of the company). Thus, it is not surprising that Singapore is where they turn to rather than America.</p>
<p>And also, Singapore has had rather good events happening in terms of the anime scene recently. I mean, the Eva movie just aired on TV last Sunday. Subbed, not dubbed. We're having same-week telecasts for a few series, such as Toradora, Casshern Sins and Skip Beat. Subbed, not dubbed. We're about to host Anime Festival Asia, which is bringing in fans from the region and from Japan too, with May'n and Mizuki Ichirou performing.</p>
<p>We might not be as big as the American market, but we sure are a major market, especially if you include the countries in the region. We're being recognised, and we're being noticed. I guess we get some good and we get some bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Artefact</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12764</link>
		<dc:creator>Artefact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of the Japanese companies here have any really signifcant operations outside Japan, least of all in Singapore. Don&#039;t you think if they were behind it, their first port of call would be the US?

Additionally, the studios don&#039;t receive any money directly from Singaporean activity - they sold the right to do that to Odex in return for royalties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the Japanese companies here have any really signifcant operations outside Japan, least of all in Singapore. Don't you think if they were behind it, their first port of call would be the US?</p>
<p>Additionally, the studios don't receive any money directly from Singaporean activity - they sold the right to do that to Odex in return for royalties.</p>
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		<title>By: Xak</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12762</link>
		<dc:creator>Xak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly the point...why would Japanese studios listen to Odex and litigate in Singapore? just who do u think calls the shots...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly the point...why would Japanese studios listen to Odex and litigate in Singapore? just who do u think calls the shots...</p>
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		<title>By: Xak</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12756</link>
		<dc:creator>Xak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just one little question.

Which company do you think is bigger? Odex or the various anime studios?

When you answer that question (I&#039;m quite sure you all should be able to answer that correctly), then think about just who is calling the shots this time. Can it even be Odex? I don&#039;t think so.

If that&#039;s not enough, consider this: the studios hold the copyright to the animes. Why would they, the owner, get money from people for illegally downloading those animes, and give it to somebody who doesn&#039;t own the animes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just one little question.</p>
<p>Which company do you think is bigger? Odex or the various anime studios?</p>
<p>When you answer that question (I'm quite sure you all should be able to answer that correctly), then think about just who is calling the shots this time. Can it even be Odex? I don't think so.</p>
<p>If that's not enough, consider this: the studios hold the copyright to the animes. Why would they, the owner, get money from people for illegally downloading those animes, and give it to somebody who doesn't own the animes?</p>
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		<title>By: Gosun</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12753</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the real question is whether the Federal Lords&#039; accumlating losses are mainly due to poor export sales to other nations or they are merely pushing it onto us gajins (when their own people EVEN didn&#039;t support them ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the real question is whether the Federal Lords' accumlating losses are mainly due to poor export sales to other nations or they are merely pushing it onto us gajins (when their own people EVEN didn't support them ).</p>
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		<title>By: Gosun</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12752</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it&#039;s always good to spend some good dollars for certain stuff that are at least worth as much as their overpriced tags. 

As for other distros in other countries, US will have a much better ground on offering unique offers with the DVD packages and avoid all means to BRAND themselves everywhere. 

And with the recent hype with these Federal Lords deciding to put in ADDITIONAL materials(nipples) in the videos themselves for DVD releases, it&#039;s useless for Singapore&#039;s MDA to allow them.

These Federal Lords(the studios) REALLY need to replace their style to suit with the current world.

Odex however, would be better off to vanish from the very surface of this planet as they only discouraged the Federal Lords to cater for the gajins here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it's always good to spend some good dollars for certain stuff that are at least worth as much as their overpriced tags. </p>
<p>As for other distros in other countries, US will have a much better ground on offering unique offers with the DVD packages and avoid all means to BRAND themselves everywhere. </p>
<p>And with the recent hype with these Federal Lords deciding to put in ADDITIONAL materials(nipples) in the videos themselves for DVD releases, it's useless for Singapore's MDA to allow them.</p>
<p>These Federal Lords(the studios) REALLY need to replace their style to suit with the current world.</p>
<p>Odex however, would be better off to vanish from the very surface of this planet as they only discouraged the Federal Lords to cater for the gajins here.</p>
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		<title>By: cinderboy</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12745</link>
		<dc:creator>cinderboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you guys see how Odex packages their VCDs and DVDs?

No extras, horrible packaging, no figurines to go with, no collector&#039;s edition, weak paper box, lousy advertising etc.

And not to mention horrible dubbing. Give me some collectibles to go along with subbed DVDs, I will do my part and buy. 

I&#039;m not going to spend my $ on simple anime VCDs/DVDs. This is sooo not the style of anime lovers. 

Odex is just out ot make some quick bucks instead of engaging the anime community over here in Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you guys see how Odex packages their VCDs and DVDs?</p>
<p>No extras, horrible packaging, no figurines to go with, no collector's edition, weak paper box, lousy advertising etc.</p>
<p>And not to mention horrible dubbing. Give me some collectibles to go along with subbed DVDs, I will do my part and buy. </p>
<p>I'm not going to spend my $ on simple anime VCDs/DVDs. This is sooo not the style of anime lovers. </p>
<p>Odex is just out ot make some quick bucks instead of engaging the anime community over here in Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12744</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odex does sound amazingly inefficient at what they&#039;re supposed to do aren&#039;t they? The only anime I see at my local video shop is stuff like Doraemon and a few other basic ones which I&#039;ve watched before elsewhere *cough*. I&#039;m surprised they haven&#039;t folded yet; those who don&#039;t watch anime don&#039;t really know or care about Odex, those who do, well. It is not my place to speak for the community lol, but I believe most Singaporean watchers are boycotting them. Now I&#039;m just waiting for the financial crisis to do them in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odex does sound amazingly inefficient at what they're supposed to do aren't they? The only anime I see at my local video shop is stuff like Doraemon and a few other basic ones which I've watched before elsewhere *cough*. I'm surprised they haven't folded yet; those who don't watch anime don't really know or care about Odex, those who do, well. It is not my place to speak for the community lol, but I believe most Singaporean watchers are boycotting them. Now I'm just waiting for the financial crisis to do them in.</p>
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		<title>By: FND</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12742</link>
		<dc:creator>FND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my assurance to all those that have been affected by this new incident:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We are pleased to inform all XD members and potential members that we now have access to lawyers who are willing and interested to represent collectively those who may be in need. As those who have been issued Writs would need a lawyer anyway, it would be more cost effective if everybody shares the same lawyer.

In addition, there may be some legal funding to help those who are taking the stand. Not confirmed at this point but just to let everybody know that Odex/R&amp;T cannot expect to walk over you simply because they think you have no resources to put up a fight against their invasion based on a technically flakey IP list.

Importantly, the lawyers who have offered to help us would have the full support of the XD research team to provide technical knowledge on the issues. This is a crucial advantage as we have known of lawyers made less than desirable recommendations to members in the previous Odexgate 2007. These are not lousy lawyers per se, but simply due to a lack of understanding about the relevant technology, and it is not reasonable also to expect a busy lawyer without the necessary background to learn all there is to learn in the days available.

So if you are on of those who have received Writs or know those who do, please help spread the message.

You are not alone.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Link: http://xedodefense.org/smf/index.php?topic=684.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my assurance to all those that have been affected by this new incident:</p>
<blockquote><p>"We are pleased to inform all XD members and potential members that we now have access to lawyers who are willing and interested to represent collectively those who may be in need. As those who have been issued Writs would need a lawyer anyway, it would be more cost effective if everybody shares the same lawyer.</p>
<p>In addition, there may be some legal funding to help those who are taking the stand. Not confirmed at this point but just to let everybody know that Odex/R&amp;T cannot expect to walk over you simply because they think you have no resources to put up a fight against their invasion based on a technically flakey IP list.</p>
<p>Importantly, the lawyers who have offered to help us would have the full support of the XD research team to provide technical knowledge on the issues. This is a crucial advantage as we have known of lawyers made less than desirable recommendations to members in the previous Odexgate 2007. These are not lousy lawyers per se, but simply due to a lack of understanding about the relevant technology, and it is not reasonable also to expect a busy lawyer without the necessary background to learn all there is to learn in the days available.</p>
<p>So if you are on of those who have received Writs or know those who do, please help spread the message.</p>
<p>You are not alone."</p></blockquote>
<p>Link: http://xedodefense.org/smf/index.php?topic=684.0</p>
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		<title>By: metatron</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12736</link>
		<dc:creator>metatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odex is really in a desperate pinch and resulted in contacting Japanese studios and yeah...why Japanese studios would bother with litigation in Singapore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odex is really in a desperate pinch and resulted in contacting Japanese studios and yeah...why Japanese studios would bother with litigation in Singapore?</p>
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		<title>By: Gosun</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12734</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singtel/Singnet did not bother to put up with a fight.

Starhub lost.

PacificNet manage to convince the Judge that Odex CANNOT do it as they ONLY have one title, Gundam Seed, which grants them the ability to do whatever they like.

Still the Judge told them to pass the ips to the Federal Lords anyway. 

Yeah. Technically a flat out loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singtel/Singnet did not bother to put up with a fight.</p>
<p>Starhub lost.</p>
<p>PacificNet manage to convince the Judge that Odex CANNOT do it as they ONLY have one title, Gundam Seed, which grants them the ability to do whatever they like.</p>
<p>Still the Judge told them to pass the ips to the Federal Lords anyway. </p>
<p>Yeah. Technically a flat out loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Gosun</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12733</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VCDs in Silver Boxes with pathetic titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VCDs in Silver Boxes with pathetic titles.</p>
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		<title>By: Gosun</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/11/18/studios-sue-singapore-anime-downloaders/#comment-12730</link>
		<dc:creator>Gosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only because they actually considered them as customers and not just some people who won&#039;t buy their stuff which they did try to avoid VCDs in fugly silver boxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only because they actually considered them as customers and not just some people who won't buy their stuff which they did try to avoid VCDs in fugly silver boxes.</p>
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