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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-513029</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 09:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that the &quot;official&quot; subs released online like on BOST and Youtube are pure TRASH in quality, and are always the censored version for &quot;American viewing.&quot; Whatever the fuck that&#039;s supposed to be.

I do not think Strike Subs are stealing the official subs. Unless you can provide proof otherwise, I see this as just baseless argument to try to save your own ass. Because it&#039;s irrelevant in the main matter at hand, Who really cares? SSubs released a higher quality on their original release (which can be seen from their site), and THEN did a DVD rip even going as far as redoing multiple episodes for color quality (which can also be found in the archives of the website as well).

As much as it pains me to say this, yes, the official companies are indeed providing a &quot;legal alternative&quot; to fansubbing, but only on select and most of the time POPULAR anime. Not all of it. I wouldn&#039;t be able to find half the anime I have on my HD online ANYWHERE to watch, even on megaupload and whatnot.

If they would give quality releases that don&#039;t require really fast internet speed / cpu power/speed to load and watch them (which alot of people do not have), They may have more ground to stand on. But they do not.

As Artefact said, most of the anime popularity, in the US alone, is from raw rips and the fansubs that follow. Manga is no exception to this rule, as manga and doujins are released with translations, that&#039;s the main popularity source.

Of course, since this was all in 2008, times have changed now. But to this date now, in May of 2010, we still do not have quality subs for most anime. The quality we DO gain is from the most popular anime like bleach/naruto/FMA/ and whatnot. All of that can be found online with HQ and subs, but of course. There are many times more fans who watch mainstream anime then those who watch a wide variety.

It saddens me to see that most websites only cater to those who can easily watch the same anime elsewhere only because there&#039;s a huge mass of those not smart enough to delve deeper. That is truly the problem of today. They do not release ALL titles, effectively reducing the anime we are exposed to, making most people, as we call them, &quot;Cartoon Network Junkies&quot;. Thus when we don&#039;t know about others, do not look them up, and continue to watch popular shows without knowing there&#039;s so much better out there. It&#039;s a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that the "official" subs released online like on BOST and Youtube are pure TRASH in quality, and are always the censored version for "American viewing." Whatever the fuck that's supposed to be.</p>
<p>I do not think Strike Subs are stealing the official subs. Unless you can provide proof otherwise, I see this as just baseless argument to try to save your own ass. Because it's irrelevant in the main matter at hand, Who really cares? SSubs released a higher quality on their original release (which can be seen from their site), and THEN did a DVD rip even going as far as redoing multiple episodes for color quality (which can also be found in the archives of the website as well).</p>
<p>As much as it pains me to say this, yes, the official companies are indeed providing a "legal alternative" to fansubbing, but only on select and most of the time POPULAR anime. Not all of it. I wouldn't be able to find half the anime I have on my HD online ANYWHERE to watch, even on megaupload and whatnot.</p>
<p>If they would give quality releases that don't require really fast internet speed / cpu power/speed to load and watch them (which alot of people do not have), They may have more ground to stand on. But they do not.</p>
<p>As Artefact said, most of the anime popularity, in the US alone, is from raw rips and the fansubs that follow. Manga is no exception to this rule, as manga and doujins are released with translations, that's the main popularity source.</p>
<p>Of course, since this was all in 2008, times have changed now. But to this date now, in May of 2010, we still do not have quality subs for most anime. The quality we DO gain is from the most popular anime like bleach/naruto/FMA/ and whatnot. All of that can be found online with HQ and subs, but of course. There are many times more fans who watch mainstream anime then those who watch a wide variety.</p>
<p>It saddens me to see that most websites only cater to those who can easily watch the same anime elsewhere only because there's a huge mass of those not smart enough to delve deeper. That is truly the problem of today. They do not release ALL titles, effectively reducing the anime we are exposed to, making most people, as we call them, "Cartoon Network Junkies". Thus when we don't know about others, do not look them up, and continue to watch popular shows without knowing there's so much better out there. It's a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyciol</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-139195</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyciol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 00:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much like Sky Girls, it has all we need</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much like Sky Girls, it has all we need</p>
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		<title>By: Artefact</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-9068</link>
		<dc:creator>Artefact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The TV stations pay millions to the studios for broadcast rights. ISPs pay nothing to studios, so your argument is rather specious (not that I am intending to criticise fansubbing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TV stations pay millions to the studios for broadcast rights. ISPs pay nothing to studios, so your argument is rather specious (not that I am intending to criticise fansubbing).</p>
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		<title>By: iragedsohard</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-9065</link>
		<dc:creator>iragedsohard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry I know I&#039;m kind of late, but this: &quot;provide a legal alternative to fansubs&quot; just made me rage so hard.

There&#039;s nothing illegal about a fansub whatsoever.
The people who watch the shows when they air on tv pay their tv provider and use the access the provider gives them to watch any show airing including anime.

The people who watch fansubs pay their internet provider to have access to the internet and can use that access to download fansubs and watch them.

We both pay and I see nothing illegal taking place.
But I would love to hear an actual reason as to why you think fansubs are &quot;illegal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sorry I know I'm kind of late, but this: "provide a legal alternative to fansubs" just made me rage so hard.</p>
<p>There's nothing illegal about a fansub whatsoever.<br />
The people who watch the shows when they air on tv pay their tv provider and use the access the provider gives them to watch any show airing including anime.</p>
<p>The people who watch fansubs pay their internet provider to have access to the internet and can use that access to download fansubs and watch them.</p>
<p>We both pay and I see nothing illegal taking place.<br />
But I would love to hear an actual reason as to why you think fansubs are "illegal."</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1778</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Boosttv version is cesnored. I can accept free streaming is censored but not the pay one. I never spent a cent for something edited. Aggravating this, Strikes fansub release uncut edition for certain episodes, so no way i support the official fansub. Epic fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Boosttv version is cesnored. I can accept free streaming is censored but not the pay one. I never spent a cent for something edited. Aggravating this, Strikes fansub release uncut edition for certain episodes, so no way i support the official fansub. Epic fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Piroko</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1754</link>
		<dc:creator>Piroko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure, but the Witch doll looks extremely familiar to one of the characters in the light novel. :S

Otherwise, it was completely Gonzo-esque to pull some plot-twist at the end with Minna drawing a gun like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure, but the Witch doll looks extremely familiar to one of the characters in the light novel. :S</p>
<p>Otherwise, it was completely Gonzo-esque to pull some plot-twist at the end with Minna drawing a gun like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Artefact</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1749</link>
		<dc:creator>Artefact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t really argue with some of the points being made here (although I would still expect to see it in HD, and I am not going to accept a censored product), so I can remove the link if everyone is so keen on BOST.

Now can we get back to discussing the distressing lack of not-pantsu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can't really argue with some of the points being made here (although I would still expect to see it in HD, and I am not going to accept a censored product), so I can remove the link if everyone is so keen on BOST.</p>
<p>Now can we get back to discussing the distressing lack of not-pantsu...</p>
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		<title>By: Artefact</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1748</link>
		<dc:creator>Artefact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is we are not comparing their offering to the TV edition but to what people are commonly downloading... and Japanese TV viewers are getting a wholly different set of offerings. The non-TV viewers are all likely to be watching the HD Gifu uncensored version anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is we are not comparing their offering to the TV edition but to what people are commonly downloading... and Japanese TV viewers are getting a wholly different set of offerings. The non-TV viewers are all likely to be watching the HD Gifu uncensored version anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Artefact</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>Artefact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their download edition still isn&#039;t fully HD, and more generally they don&#039;t offer DL versions for many titles, but otherwise I accept your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their download edition still isn't fully HD, and more generally they don't offer DL versions for many titles, but otherwise I accept your point.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youtube sucks, but I think BOST&#039;s releases look quite nice. And it seems a bit self-entitled and greedy to say &quot;RADDA RADDA HD, NO CENSORSHIP!1!!&quot; because that&#039;s more than what most Japanese TV viewers get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youtube sucks, but I think BOST's releases look quite nice. And it seems a bit self-entitled and greedy to say "RADDA RADDA HD, NO CENSORSHIP!1!!" because that's more than what most Japanese TV viewers get.</p>
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		<title>By: cobretti</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator>cobretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and this episode sucked balls. Horny male teenagers is the last thing I want to see in Strike Witches. I hope this is the last time, because it could seriously make me drop the series, as much as I like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and this episode sucked balls. Horny male teenagers is the last thing I want to see in Strike Witches. I hope this is the last time, because it could seriously make me drop the series, as much as I like it.</p>
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		<title>By: cobretti</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>cobretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If releasing the episodes officially subtitled, the same day they air in Japan, and making them available for streaming and download is not enough effort for you then I don&#039;t know what the hell do you expect them to do. You can even watch a low quality stream and then decide if you want to pay for the HD download.

I&#039;m willing to believe that you didn&#039;t know what you were talking about, because there&#039;s no way to defend your position otherwise.

And Strike Subs are two weeks behind anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If releasing the episodes officially subtitled, the same day they air in Japan, and making them available for streaming and download is not enough effort for you then I don't know what the hell do you expect them to do. You can even watch a low quality stream and then decide if you want to pay for the HD download.</p>
<p>I'm willing to believe that you didn't know what you were talking about, because there's no way to defend your position otherwise.</p>
<p>And Strike Subs are two weeks behind anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Mk200114</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1740</link>
		<dc:creator>Mk200114</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;m sure this episode was made with good intention, I was left highly disappointed. This was not the Pantsu Witches that I&#039;m used to seeing every week. Here&#039;s hoping that things will go back to normal soon and that this anime won&#039;t try to be too serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I'm sure this episode was made with good intention, I was left highly disappointed. This was not the Pantsu Witches that I'm used to seeing every week. Here's hoping that things will go back to normal soon and that this anime won't try to be too serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Artefact</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>Artefact</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YouTube does not in my mind in any way constitute an alternative to watching fansubs. Personally, I would never watch an anime on YouTube.

And it should be plain by now that fansubs are the major factor behind the rise of anime in recent years, so frankly I am sceptical of whether there is even a need for an alternative, even from a commerical standpoint, given that no amount of marketing could likely have replicated the success of a franchise like Naruto.

They are welcome to pull their fingers out and start distributing their properties online in HD, but I don&#039;t see them making much effort in this direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YouTube does not in my mind in any way constitute an alternative to watching fansubs. Personally, I would never watch an anime on YouTube.</p>
<p>And it should be plain by now that fansubs are the major factor behind the rise of anime in recent years, so frankly I am sceptical of whether there is even a need for an alternative, even from a commerical standpoint, given that no amount of marketing could likely have replicated the success of a franchise like Naruto.</p>
<p>They are welcome to pull their fingers out and start distributing their properties online in HD, but I don't see them making much effort in this direction.</p>
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		<title>By: houkoholic</title>
		<link>http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/08/23/drama-witches/#comment-1736</link>
		<dc:creator>houkoholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonzo has been releasing Strike Witches with English subs simultaneously worldwide via sites like Youtube and BOST.  Strike Subs aren&#039;t &quot;subbing&quot; anything - they just rip the official subtitles and release it as theirs.  You probably shouldn&#039;t be plugging these guys when the anime industry is trying to actually provide a legal alternative to fansubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzo has been releasing Strike Witches with English subs simultaneously worldwide via sites like Youtube and BOST.  Strike Subs aren't "subbing" anything - they just rip the official subtitles and release it as theirs.  You probably shouldn't be plugging these guys when the anime industry is trying to actually provide a legal alternative to fansubs.</p>
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